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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 02:17:14 No.39266652 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39267173 >>39267181 >>39267237 >>39267288 >>39267460

Why do normies defend gen 1 when all the sprites were horribly designed? This isn't even what koffing looks like. Also the games were pretty much unplayable, you'd have to be an ultimate autismo to actually work past the gameplay issues of Gen 1

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:09:45 No.39267173 Report

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>>39266652

Gen one sprites are soulful af and great.the problem with genwunners isn't that they have shit taste for liking gen 1 it's that they think everything else is shit for not being gen 1.

Gen 1 is fine. Its just not gen 5

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:10:58 No.39267181 Report

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>>39266652
>This isn't even what koffing looks like.
It's what it looks like in the game which is all that matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:17:25 No.39267237 Report

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>>39266652
they usually dont infact tons of people still make fun of mews sprite to this day, its more people huffing gen 1 fumes they defend them.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:23:36 No.39267288 Report

Quoted By: >>39267310

>>39266652
>Also the games were pretty much unplayable, you'd have to be an ultimate autismo to actually work past the gameplay issues of Gen 1
In what regard? Sure it's full of bugs, but in normal playthroughs you're not going to (knowingly) encounter them without searching for them yourself or getting extremely lucky/unlucky.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:26:07 No.39267310 Report

Quoted By: >>39267335 >>39267350 >>39267578 >>39267650

>>39267288
yeah its less bugs and more bad designs like wrap or the sleep powder, or focus energey or psychic types

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:30:08 No.39267335 Report

Quoted By: >>39267353

>>39267310
Focus power is definitely a bug, but psychic types, sleep, blizzard, and trapping moves are definitely part of the bad design.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:31:30 No.39267350 Report

Quoted By: >>39267367

>>39267310
Wrap is more balanced than Shadow Tag.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:32:38 No.39267353 Report

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>>39267335
ironicly its why the games are kind of fun even now becaue its fun to see all the flaws and breaking the game is super easy, heck the bugs created an entire community, these games didnt hold up by professional standards but you cant deny the games did create a lasting impact

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:33:59 No.39267367 Report

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>>39267350
oh hell no atleast you could revenge kill the pokemon in question if the pokemon using wrap is fast enough it will lead into a sitiuation where luck is the only thing that will save you

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:35:24 No.39267380 Report

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>>39267367
You can counter Wrap with a faster Pokemon. You can't counter Shadow Tag period.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:36:55 No.39267395 Report

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>>39267380
you can totally counter shadow tag, by using either a ghost pokemon or just wearing down said shadow tag user, if again said wrap user had agility, and set up its hard to come back from that

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:40:26 No.39267418 Report

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>>39267395
>by using either a ghost
I can't use my ghost unless I magically predict every turn my opponent is going to switch something that has shadow tag. Using Agility requires the opponent to stop using Wrap. There's also the fact that Wrap has a 15% chance to miss.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:42:33 No.39267430 Report

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>>39267418
but switching in singles is half of the meta game, oh btw in doubles i means nothing again there is counter play, btw the pokemon who uses wrao and agiligty is dragoninte so unless you happen to have ice beam on your it can set up pretty easlly

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:46:04 No.39267449 Report

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>>39267430
>but switching in singles is half of the meta game
but I still can't magically double switch every single time my opponent brings out a shadow tag user.

>again there is counter play
there literally isn't because I can't switch and the opposing pokemon is free to set up all it wants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:47:42 No.39267460 Report

Quoted By: >>39267541

>>39266652
The designs are fine. Yellow fixes them to look more like the anime. As for being playable, the few bugs and programing limitations in the game are tolerable and at best minor annoyances, looking at you, Wrap and Bind. If you consider them unplayable you must be incredibly casual, as subsequent pokemon games are much easier due to "fixes" like waking up and being able to attack on the same turn

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:48:47 No.39267466 Report

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When I was a kid I thought Mankey had long antennas on its head instead of it grabbing its own ears... And I thought Blaine was a grey alien.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 03:56:43 No.39267541 Report

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>>39267460
lack of pyschial and special split and even a special defense all hurts alot and makes it a harder pill to swallow, and dont deny the very limited invetory space is just amazingly bad, its even unorginzed and alot of pokemon have terrible learnsets as well as terrible tms, these games are pretty rough to play today unless you understand what your getting into.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 04:00:30 No.39267578 Report

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>>39267310
None of those matter much for an ingame run. Once you get the pokeflute you can wake up on turn 1, but yes it is very annoying if you are slower than the sleep spammer. You dont encounter wrap on opponents very often, probably like 4 or 5 times the entire game, and while psychic types are broken you can still make a balanced team and have fun with anything.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 04:03:47 No.39267600 Report

Quoted By: >>39267624

>>39267541
Fair points, at that time the game devs said that movesets were purposely limited because TMs were intended to make your pokemon unique and special. The inventory absolutely sucks I agree. No physical/special split isnt a dealbreaker for me when replaying though.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 04:06:32 No.39267624 Report

Quoted By: >>39267636

>>39267600
i agree it isnt unplayable you just need to know what your getting into and it still has its own charms

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 04:08:33 No.39267636 Report

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>>39267624
Yeah it's definitely not a game I'd recommend to someone brand new to the franchise. The anime worked wonders for these games back in the day.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Jul 2019 04:10:35 No.39267650 Report

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>>39267310
Biggest problem with psychic types in gen 1 is that ghosts didn't work on them like they were supposed to and even the 'strong' bugs didn't have any good bug moves

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