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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 09:05:08 No.39323488 View View Reply Original Report

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GF has no soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtI5tmwrqbk

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 09:08:32 No.39323511 Report

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I no longer anger, I just grow more disappointed

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 09:10:24 No.39323526 Report

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oh no no no no no

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 09:58:10 No.39323884 Report

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At this point there's no reason to play newer games anyway. There are even romhacks of Gale of Darkness

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 10:09:10 No.39323949 Report

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>>39323488
Gonna play Devil's advocate here. PBR was a battle sim and didnt have the scale of an actual pokemon game. That being the case more time and resources had nowhere to go BUT into making more expressive animations and prettier looking moves.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 10:27:47 No.39324037 Report

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>>39323949
PBR is 10+ years old. You would think they would be able to catch up by now. Especially when most of the content we have seen of sword and shield is just reused from the 3DS games.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 10:40:59 No.39324108 Report

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>>39323949
except those aren't from PBR, they are from colosseum and stadium. colosseum even had an expansive campaign to play through

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 10:42:40 No.39324121 Report

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>>39323488
This guy's dexit videos are fucking based

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 10:44:19 No.39324133 Report

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>>39323949
But the whole reason the nat dex was cut was for 'higher quality animations' and the animations are just reused from the previous games.
We're not getting either. Where is the time and resources going then?

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 10:59:50 No.39324236 Report

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>"Game Freak models"
Stupid youtube cuck doesn't know Creatures does all the 3D modeling

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 11:11:22 No.39324315 Report

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>>39323949
And all the XY models come from the pokedex 3d pro which doesn't even have any battles.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 11:24:15 No.39324415 Report

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I love this dude.
He actually loads up the models and animations to prove his point unlike other people that just show short gifs or screenshots.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 11:25:24 No.39324429 Report

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>>39324236
Well yeah, they're the models used in GF's games, so...

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 11:26:25 No.39324434 Report

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>>39324415
He's also not afraid to call out the retards in the comments by name.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 11:27:23 No.39324443 Report

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>>39323949
it was also a spin off compared to a mainline game, also if you watched the video the point he's making is that GF has more expressive animations but just chose to not use it for some reason

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 12:08:01 No.39324664 Report

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>>39323949
Hey shill, explain the GameCube RPGs then.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 12:09:32 No.39324678 Report

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>>39324108
>>>expansive
lol

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 12:24:11 No.39324774 Report

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>>39323488
I wish he would have shown even more Pokemon, I could watch this shit all day.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 12:36:25 No.39324842 Report

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>>39323488
I think some idles are unnecessarily busy and I can undersdtand why GF left the most "exciting" ones for attack animations

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 13:11:32 No.39325129 Report

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Based

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 13:41:21 No.39325410 Report

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>>39324842
>unnecessarily busy
like you're moms ass

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 13:43:57 No.39325439 Report

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>when a single fainting animation has more soul than two generations of Pokemon

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 13:58:19 No.39325566 Report

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>>39324774
A lot of work went into those animations.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:01:18 No.39325591 Report

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>>39325566
aaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:10:46 No.39325666 Report

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Battle revolution went to great lengths to characterize every pokemon. Even weaklings that people are hardly ever likely to use got signature animations, giving them each a unique identity. They could have just made Seedot hop up and down with the argument that nobody is likely to use Seedot or care about it, but the animators clearly cared and poured a lot of love into this.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:23:35 No.39325781 Report

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https://youtu.be/-dy-1vQqJoo

Since, were all pulling up our favorite PBR animations
At the 2:14, Electabuzz's fainting animation shows him making a hanging gesture.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:24:00 No.39325787 Report

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>>39323949
watch the video he literally shows that gamefreak actually has the animation probably because creatures inc actually cares. Then game freak decides they want the boring animation

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:35:41 No.39325887 Report

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Are we all just going to ignore that some of the interesting animations for the Gf models he showed off (and the only one for Hariyama) DO play in battle? Are we really just going to ignore that he couldn't even tell what animations where in Amie or not?
This guy seems like a sensationalist retard, and him setting up witchhunts for people who don't agree with him (who may be children) doesn't paint a good light either.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:36:38 No.39325895 Report

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>>39325666
BASED devilposter
>>39325566
if you hacked a pokemon to have a move it doesn't learn normally, does it still play an animation when it does that move? can I make a unown do this?

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:37:01 No.39325900 Report

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>>39325887
Nice try, Joe. The argument was that these were the idle animations, and no, they don't play in battle considering that he literally compares animations they do have vs. the ones they used for idles.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:38:28 No.39325912 Report

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>>39325895
afaik they're just playing walking + generic physical attack animations but the actual work put into the timing of the actions and the animations themselves are much higher

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:38:35 No.39325915 Report

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>>39325887
>This guy seems like a sensationalist retard
That's every Poketuber trying to cash in on this outrage, their title cards are cringe as fuck

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:39:51 No.39325927 Report

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>>39325900
No you retard, I'm not getting SwSh either, but paired with idles, Pokemon also have short animations that play if you don't select a move and let the camera pan around your mons.
His Kecleon example is funny, because him twitching his head and shuffling DO play, and signify it getting impatient waiting for you
The fact that you didn't know this means your a sensationalist all the same

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:41:08 No.39325943 Report

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>>39325439
TPC should of put Genius in charge of the main games years ago.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:44:29 No.39325976 Report

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>>39323949
>PBR release date: 2013
>Console: Wii
>They actually have decent animations made for Amie, they just don't use any of them in battle
Oh no no no

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:53:53 No.39326061 Report

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>>39325976
2006, my bad. 13 years ago.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:54:07 No.39326062 Report

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>>39323949
>devil's anusboy

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:56:01 No.39326083 Report

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>Honchkrow enters battle on the ground
>Takes flight
>Adjusts hat so it doesn't fall off
>Streamlines body to attack target

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:56:29 No.39326091 Report

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>>39323949
>didnt have the scale of an actual pokemon game.
Except that 90% of the moves and animations in PBR were first introduced on the Gamecube while Colosseum and XD also managed to have a deeper story than anything Game Freak has produced.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 14:57:46 No.39326103 Report

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>>39326083
SOUL

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 15:06:56 No.39326185 Report

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>>39326083
what is the hat made of?

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 15:07:45 No.39326193 Report

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>>39323488
fucking based

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 15:12:35 No.39326231 Report

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>>39326185
Maybe it makes them from its own feathers? Pokedex entries say it spends most of its time preening itself. It only takes action to finish off an opponent or if one of its underlings fails it in some way.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 15:14:20 No.39326254 Report

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>>39325927
The shuffling being Kecleon's standard idle animation and it shifting from standing still to that still imply different things about Kecleon's personality. It could move in a way that expresses more instead of you needing to stall the game just to see them emote at all

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 15:18:35 No.39326284 Report

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>>39326254
>stall the game
no, I've seen it play a few seconds after it transitions to the move selection screen, it's plenty of time to see it if you're thinking out your move in the story campaign or especially the online battles.
It seems like this guy knows jack shit about what conditions these play in, he's just jumping on the hate bandwagon without fully knowing what he was talking about.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 16:57:46 No.39327396 Report

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>>39325666
HOW DOES ONE POKEMON HAVE SO MUCH SOUL!!!

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 17:07:43 No.39327483 Report

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>>39326083
Someone please make a webm with this and Pidgey's Fly animation in Let's Go Pee

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 17:36:37 No.39327796 Report

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>>39323949
Bitch, they're reusing for Sword and Shield literally the exact same models they've been using since fucking XY, excluding the few Pokemon that are brand new, not to mention their generic animations and move animations as well. Case in point, Waterfall has the exact same animation that Let's Go uses. Even NPCs are recycling animations from Sun and Moon, such as Hop sharing the same talking animation that Hau has. If they're reusing so much shit you would think they would have spare time to give the game extra polish, but no. That's not even bringing up the fact that it's 2019, why can't mainline games have animations as good as some 2006 spin-off title? There's absolutely no excuse other than being a complacent boot licker.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 17:45:33 No.39327899 Report

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>>39323488
Sorry DipshitIncel, the games will still sell millions and there's nothing you can do about it.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 17:51:01 No.39327945 Report

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>>39327483
Seconding this.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 17:59:28 No.39328053 Report

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>>39327796
Gamefreak is doubling down on means to make rehashed releases more appealing. Exclusive gym leaders are there to promote double dipping and Pokemon on rotation are a thing to make SnS "complete edition" look like a better product.
I don't know whether it's a strategy for mainline to fend off the mobileshit or just maximising profits while actual effort goes into their other projects, but with people still not giving a fuck, you can bet the series is going to crash and burn sooner than expected.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:02:43 No.39328103 Report

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>>39323488
No no Genius Sonority, do it like us at Gamefreak

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:02:47 No.39328105 Report

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>>39324664
Reused Stadium and Stadium 2 models and animations

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:03:25 No.39328108 Report

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>>39323949
A new game by a multi-billion dollar company has no excuse to produce something that looks inferior to a 13 year old game not even made by the core team.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:04:49 No.39328130 Report

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>>39323488
>calls out specific people with the sane exact format for arguments 3 times
What a petty little bitch.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:05:32 No.39328136 Report

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>>39325895
>if you hacked a pokemon to have a move it doesn't learn normally, does it still play an animation when it does that move?
Yes. Every Pokemon has a few canned animations they pull out for attacks. Just like nowadays.

Honchkrow here uses this same animation even when it's just standing around.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:08:46 No.39328172 Report

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>>39328105
Compared to a Switch game reusing 3ds models and animations

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:12:53 No.39328210 Report

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>>39328172
I agree with you, just explaining why PBR has so many animations

They're being reused from Stadium JP, Stadium, Stadium 2, and Colosseum. With PBR's gen 4 Pokemon added into the mix, you end up with Pokemon models from five different games across a decade and four gens side-by-side. It's jarring as hell when you send out two Pokemon and one is using an N64 model.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:16:24 No.39328243 Report

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>>39325439
>tips fedora

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:21:33 No.39328301 Report

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>>39328210
God, I couldn't stand using Khangaskhan or Mankey in that because of that

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:23:58 No.39328317 Report

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>>39323488
This guy complains wrong.
The SG animations are like iddle animations
GF are lifeless stands and then they have lively iddle animations.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 18:25:00 No.39328327 Report

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>>39325666
I still think runnig animations lack weight

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 20:18:24 No.39329757 Report

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>>39328317
what

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 20:35:22 No.39329968 Report

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>>39325943
>should of

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 20:46:23 No.39330105 Report

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>>39323949
ill also chime in with the fact that each time creatures made new models and animation they did them in increments. Each stadium game added only the most recent dex and the first stadium game didn’t even have all 151, just 49. Models weren’t even updated from the N64 until PBR and that was still only the ones present in sinnoh. meanwhile gamefreak had to make models from scratch for 600+ pokemon for X and Y, now this doesn’t excuse why some time wouldn’t go into making older pokémon more expressive in their idles after gen 6, but it does show why their debut generation of 3D didn’t match the battle sims of the past. And before someone says
>The gamecube games were fully fledged RPGs!
they weren’t. No routes, just towns and bases on a world map that you teleport around to. Didn’t even have conventional wild pokémon.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 21:14:16 No.39330469 Report

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>>39323488
The speed at which this guy talks is incredibly inconsistent. It pisses me off. But otherwise a good video.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 21:18:07 No.39330517 Report

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>>39323488
thats bullshit though. Kecleon does twitch his head in ORAS.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 21:19:05 No.39330532 Report

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>>39325666
Damn that's kino.

I want to go back and play this game again.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 22:29:22 No.39331499 Report

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>>39325781
Holy shit he's threatening to noose magmar as revenge.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 22:40:15 No.39331692 Report

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>>39330105
>meanwhile gamefreak had to make models from scratch for 600+ pokemon for X and Y,
TPCI made those for Pokedex 3D pro, but yes

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 22:55:00 No.39331917 Report

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PBR remake for Switch when? Will it ever happen bros?

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 23:06:34 No.39332079 Report

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>>39323488
hariyama actual stance is actually better for battles

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 23:07:01 No.39332082 Report

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have sex you bitter social outcast virgin!

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 23:32:07 No.39332402 Report

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>>39323488
amie was a mistake

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 23:40:34 No.39332531 Report

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>>39323488
Neither does /vp/

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 23:42:09 No.39332553 Report

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>>39323949
It's been six years since XY
Six
Years

Half
of
a
decade
You could literally animate one Pokemon a day every day for a year and still get them all done before SwSh were even announced.

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jul 2019 23:54:30 No.39332726 Report

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>>39331917
>Game Freak would want people remembering how good animations used to be

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