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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:00:22 No.39343154 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39343169 >>39343177 >>39343280 >>39343327 >>39343550 >>39343571 >>39343905

If they end up being steel/ice and steel/fire, how good would they be competitively?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:01:33 No.39343163 Report

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Sword is for edgelords

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:02:06 No.39343169 Report

Quoted By: >>39343238

>>39343154
Heatran teaches us that steel/fire is a good defensive type and Zamazenta looks bulky as fuck.

Steel/ice CAN be good offensively as long as it's on something fast and thankfully Zacian's design screams "fast attacker".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:03:12 No.39343177 Report

Quoted By: >>39343200

>>39343154
>Steel/Ice
Absolute trash unless it has an amazing move or ability, and even then it would be a niche as hell Uber pick.
>Steel/Fire
Depends entirely on its movepool, ability, and stats, but should at least be ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:05:32 No.39343200 Report

Quoted By: >>39343905

>>39343177
Alolan Sandslash is quite good with Slush Rush and that's with its abysmal stats. This thing would have 680 BST so as a steel/ice type it would be pretty good unless they royally screw up with stat allocation and/or movepool (see: Kyurem-B).

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:07:13 No.39343238 Report

Quoted By: >>39343302

>>39343169
Heatran teaches us that steel/fire is a good defensive type and Zamazenta looks bulky as fuck.
I'm nitpicking , but Flash Fire helps a ton. Without that, it wouldn't be that easy to put several Steel type on the same team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:10:17 No.39343280 Report

Quoted By: >>39343292

>>39343154
Fire/Steel shielder. Ability: Legendary shield (Filter + Battle Armor), and can't be turned off.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:11:24 No.39343292 Report

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>>39343280
Legendary sword: Neuroforce + Super Luck then?

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:12:05 No.39343302 Report

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>>39343238
Agreed with Flash Fire being so important. Otherwise Fire is just neutral to Heatran instead of an immunity and it loses its ability to wall fire types.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:14:02 No.39343327 Report

Quoted By: >>39343366

>>39343154
Defensive steel/fire would need a good recovery move to differentiate itself from Heatran.

Offensive steel/ice needs coverage for opposing steel (almost guaranteed to learn Sacred Sword though) and fire types. With high Atk and Spe its defensive type wouldn't matter that much.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:16:35 No.39343366 Report

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>>39343327
Steel/ice isn't even terrible defensively, especially on a fast attacker.

Mach Punch/Vacuum Wave are uncommon and it doesn't particularly fear any other priority move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:32:37 No.39343550 Report

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>>39343154
Primal Groudon will still be king. Steel can be hard for Uber’s since Ground is predominant in the tier. Ice/Steel can be tough with PG, Mega Blaziken, etc.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:33:47 No.39343564 Report

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>>39343550
>implying Primal Groudon will even exist in gen 8

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:34:24 No.39343571 Report

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>>39343154
Steel fighting in their normal forms, Steel/Ice and Steel/Fire in their glowing faggot sparkledog forms.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:34:32 No.39343574 Report

Quoted By: >>39343630

>>39343564
What about Pokémon Showdown?

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:37:44 No.39343630 Report

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>>39343574
Showdown mirrors the real games retard. Whatever Pokemon get culled in the games will be out of the gen 8 meta too

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:40:50 No.39343666 Report

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>>39343550
Mega Blaziken isn't even that good in Ubers anyways. If anything, the issue is that Dusk Mane Necrozma is one of the best steel types and you need a niche to separate yourself from that thing.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 18:59:20 No.39343849 Report

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>>39343666
Dealing with fairy and dragon types at the same time seems a pretty good niche in ubers.

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jul 2019 19:04:58 No.39343905 Report

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>>39343154
>>39343200
Fuck ice types, fuck steel types, and fuck fairies.

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