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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:50:15 No.39370867 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39370933 >>39370954 >>39370995 >>39372726 >>39372779 >>39373421 >>39373426 >>39376152 >>39376185

>cut the national dex due to "balance and development concerns"
>bring back cancerous shit like pic related

of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:52:17 No.39370899 Report

Quoted By: >>39370942

I don't understand, they cut Pokémon from the game for "balance" when the past few gens they have been powercreeping this game ridiculously. But yeah let's just cut Pokémon from the game. Fucking lazy cunts, they should all be fired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:53:22 No.39370920 Report

Quoted By: >>39373489

The balance excuse never held any ground to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:54:13 No.39370933 Report

Quoted By: >>39370980 >>39371035 >>39371202 >>39371238 >>39373089 >>39373427

>>39370867
1. They balance around VGC, not singles. Toxapex is virtually unused in VGC.
2. Even if they were balancing around singles, bringing in a previously good Pokemon doesn't mean the game won't be balanced. Want to tell me how good Talonflame was in gen 7?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:54:41 No.39370942 Report

Quoted By: >>39370968 >>39371027 >>39371188 >>39375748

>>39370899
Power creep doesn't exist. Stop crying that your bro Butterfree is in PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:55:32 No.39370954 Report

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>>39370867
Toxapex is a pleb filter, and it's tedious, not unbalanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:56:20 No.39370968 Report

Quoted By: >>39371000

>>39370942
I love playing with Landorus and Friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:57:10 No.39370980 Report

Quoted By: >>39372692

>>39370933
>1. They balance around VGC, not singles. Toxapex is virtually unused in VGC
Then why have singles in online if they're not gonna try to balance it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:57:58 No.39370995 Report

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>>39370867
>he still plays singles

how embarrassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:58:29 No.39371000 Report

Quoted By: >>39371051

>>39370968
Landorus-T isn't overpowered, you just suck at the game
Come back when you have an elo above 1200

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:58:46 No.39371003 Report

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Heya fellas I just joined into the hip discussion to get ready for newest title, Pokémon red and shield, but I have no earthly idea what you all are talking about. Where can I learn all this new lingo. The last version I played was Pokémon red and blue and a bit of Pokémon stadium btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 18:59:50 No.39371027 Report

Quoted By: >>39371120

>>39370942
>Power creep doesn't exist.
Yes it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:00:19 No.39371035 Report

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>>39370933
>1. They balance around VGC, not singles. Toxapex is virtually unused in VGC.
>Implying they do this even when the VGCat of 90% usage exists
>When they let in shit like Mega Fug and Primals

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:01:22 No.39371051 Report

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>>39371000
You’re right, I mean tapu fini and friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:03:50 No.39371098 Report

Quoted By: >>39372733

>>39371051
Tapu Fini also isn't overpowered. Just use Heavy Slam or Iron Head, lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:04:52 No.39371120 Report

Quoted By: >>39371143 >>39374548 >>39375806

>>39371027
Show me evidence

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:06:12 No.39371143 Report

Quoted By: >>39371277

>>39371120
https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/slowbro/
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/slowbro/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:08:09 No.39371170 Report

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Cutting shitmons to improve balance seems kind of like killing vagrants to decrease homeless rates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:09:15 No.39371188 Report

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>>39370942
Primals exist, you are wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:10:15 No.39371202 Report

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>>39370933
>1. They balance around VGC
Why do they insist on balancing the game around a format that's barely present in the single player experience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:12:24 No.39371238 Report

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>>39370933
They sure do an awful job of balancing vgc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:15:11 No.39371277 Report

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>>39371143
That's just one mon, and it's not power creep anyway. Slowbro just fell out of usage in OU due to the meta shifting. Nothing to do with power creep
>>39371188
>new feature power creep

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 19:18:48 No.39371331 Report

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>>39371277
It got outclassed as a bulky regenerator pivot by a certain mon hence why it dropped so hard. Sure the meta was unkind to it but so was the fact that there was something strictly better than it.
>That's just one mon,
I am not going to copy and paste every single instance of a new addition outclassing an old one in the history of the games otherwise I'd be here all day, there's plenty of power creep going on in Pokemon between generations.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:01:15 No.39372692 Report

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>>39370980
You're gonna have to pay extra per month to even HAVE online in SwSh AT ALL anyway!
Server costs increesing! Prease UnderstanduDesuu~~!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:04:07 No.39372726 Report

Quoted By: >>39373184

>>39370867
Imagine actually caring about a fanmade singles format instead of the officially sanctioned format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:04:58 No.39372733 Report

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>>39371098
Fini isnt weak to steel dumbass.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:07:01 No.39372761 Report

Quoted By: >>39372881

It's nice when your one of your top pokebros counters toxapex so hard you don't even flinch at seeing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:07:03 No.39372762 Report

Quoted By: >>39372788

I don't understand game freak's logic. Why would a tropical pokemon like toxapex live in Galar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:09:06 No.39372779 Report

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>>39370867
Don't worry, Toxapex will be nerfed somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:09:53 No.39372788 Report

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>>39372762
So he can still be in the anime without backlash

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:14:20 No.39372835 Report

Quoted By: >>39373021

>>39371035
That was TPCi's decision to bring Mega Fug and primals. Intimidate is incredible ability in VGC hence why Incineroar had so much use.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:17:53 No.39372881 Report

Quoted By: >>39372910

>>39372761
>Your one of your

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:19:30 No.39372910 Report

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>>39372881
I was going to originally say "your Pokebro" but Reuniclus isn't my top pokebro although it's in the top 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:27:18 No.39373021 Report

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>>39372835
So they don’t balance for VGC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:31:47 No.39373089 Report

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>>39370933
VGC is less balanced than singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:38:34 No.39373184 Report

Quoted By: >>39373196

>>39372726
>caring about whether or not the worst vidya company in the industry officially supports your format

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:39:09 No.39373196 Report

Quoted By: >>39373408

>>39373184
Cope Smogoncuck :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:41:42 No.39373226 Report

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>>39371035
>they say we wanna focus on balancing
>lol what a lie look how they brought a thing that‘s op in an imaginary meta
>lol what a lie look how many usage inceniroar has in vgc
Yeah that‘s why they said they are focusing on it you idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:55:52 No.39373408 Report

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>>39373196
seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:56:59 No.39373421 Report

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>>39370867
Imagine if a certain lando got into the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:57:18 No.39373426 Report

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>>39370867
Why'd they put a cactus in the UK but not a pigeon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:57:30 No.39373427 Report

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>>39370933
pathetic cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:01:29 No.39373489 Report

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>>39370920
This. Game Freak doesn't give a shit about online meta and they barely give a shit about battle tower/tree/frontier (rip) and do nothing to support balance ever, but when the games are out and it's discovered that the games aren't balanced at all, people who stick with the franchise will look past it and say it's just another annoying little fib that Game Freak told that one gen which is retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:03:00 No.39374368 Report

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It's a sea star not an urchin you layman

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:10:33 No.39374480 Report

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>>39374368
This
Specifically modeled after the crown of thorns starfish that decimates coral reefs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:15:41 No.39374548 Report

Quoted By: >>39374683

>>39371120
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/gardevoir/ou/
>There is absolutely no reason to use Mega Gardevoir in OU. Aside from a stronger Fairy-type STAB move, a slightly better Speed tier, and access to some nifty utility moves like Will-O-Wisp and Healing Wish, Gardevoir is entirely outclassed by Tapu Lele, which can run an item, doesn't take up your Mega slot, and has stronger Psychic-type moves thanks to Psychic Terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:25:37 No.39374683 Report

Quoted By: >>39375944

>>39374548
Just ban legendaries from online play

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 00:55:10 No.39375748 Report

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>>39370942
>Power Creep doesn’t exist
>When Ferrothorn single handily made every other hazard setter unviable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:01:04 No.39375806 Report

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>>39371120
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/breloom/
>Breloom is essentially a worse Kartana in almost every way. As an offensive Grass-type, it struggles to break through Pokemon that Kartana would have no issue with, such as Tangrowth, Clefable, Gliscor, and Tornadus-T. Breloom is slower than most of the metagame, forcing it to rely on Mach Punch to pose as any sort of threat against offensive teams. It's also very frail and struggles to find opportunities to set up. Furthermore, compared to Tapu Bulu, Kartana, and Tangrowth, it has virtually zero defensive utility. All in all, unless you have something against using Ultra Beasts or any other good wallbreaker for that matter, there's very little reason to use Breloom on a serious team.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:13:49 No.39375944 Report

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>>39374683
but my bro articuno......... . . ..

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:33:28 No.39376152 Report

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>>39370867
They also brought in this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:36:58 No.39376185 Report

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>>39370867
You didn't actually buy that "balance" bullshit, did you?

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