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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 20:45:19 No.39372463 View View Reply Original Report

Imagine unironically defending Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 20:46:38 No.39372484 Report

Quoted By: >>39372701 >>39374503

Can you show Ferrothorn's special animation now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 20:49:12 No.39372516 Report

Quoted By: >>39376147

>>39372463
Holy shit that's embarassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 20:54:28 No.39372588 Report

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>>39372463
>MUH ANIMATIONS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 20:56:53 No.39372628 Report

Quoted By: >>39374190 >>39375729

>>39372588
Yeah. Theyre important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 20:58:37 No.39372650 Report

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>>39372588
Yes, I want the Pokemon to look like living creatures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 20:59:04 No.39372656 Report

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>>39372588
You're right, why should we care? As long as it's called Pokemon

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:00:28 No.39372680 Report

Quoted By: >>39374429 >>39375781 >>39379846 >>39382200

>>39372463
The chinks are breaking the conditioning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:02:17 No.39372701 Report

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>>39372484
Ferrothorn is not in the mobile game roster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:04:29 No.39372727 Report

Quoted By: >>39372756 >>39372771 >>39374415 >>39381835

>>39372463
So..now only pokemon animation matter? Why do you guys then even want a jrpg with catching pokemon and shit? Why don‘t you just play showdown, or ask for stadium 3.0?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:06:43 No.39372756 Report

Quoted By: >>39372854

>>39372727
Everything else is shit too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:07:26 No.39372766 Report

Quoted By: >>39372771 >>39372854

>>39372588
When they claim the reason for deleting Pokemon is "animations", don't get pissy when people criticize the animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:08:27 No.39372770 Report

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>>39372588
Fuck off Joe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:08:27 No.39372771 Report

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>>39372727
see >>39372766

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:12:53 No.39372814 Report

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>>39372463
are people really that dumb?
Each pokémon has 2 attacks on the game. They have fix animations to each of those attacks.
On real games there are HUNDREDS of attacks and 900 Pokémon. Most pokémon has dozens of attacks in their moveset. Do you really think it is the same to make 2 animations for each pokémon that is fix pokémon+attack and do that on a game where every existing attack has innumerable pokémon who can use them?

You guys can tell the "animation from scratch" and "high quality animations" are a damn lie because that's what they are.
But comparing them to this game as if the complexity demanded on both things are even remotely on the same level is beyond stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:15:34 No.39372847 Report

Quoted By: >>39373326

>>39372814
>On real games there were HUNDREDS of attacks and 900 Pokémon.
Fixed that for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:15:58 No.39372854 Report

Quoted By: >>39372914 >>39373575

>>39372756
What is everything else to you? What doesn‘t this game offer to you what the other did? Except for the culling all of us know nothing

>>39372766
They criticized this shit before they even said it was because animations. The second they heard not all pokemon are in there people started crying? Instead of wanting more new pokemon you fags cry because you can‘t play the ones you played since the first time you started a fucking pokemon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:16:24 No.39372858 Report

Quoted By: >>39372906

>>39372814
>chink sweatshop on a shoestring budget
>vs $90 billion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:18:39 No.39372895 Report

Quoted By: >>39372912 >>39373143

>>39372463
30 models versus 600

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:19:13 No.39372906 Report

Quoted By: >>39372921 >>39374429 >>39375821 >>39382422

>>39372858
>look how this is better than gf hahaha
>but you fag this is actually just stolen shit poorly animated and doesn‘t feature a miniscule what the real games offer
>b-but t-they made more money than the chinks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:19:42 No.39372912 Report

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>>39372895
No money vs all the money

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:19:57 No.39372914 Report

Quoted By: >>39379973

>>39372854
>all pokemon fans are one person
>using slurs instead of actual arguments
Yikes, why don't you fuck off back to Twitter where everyone else loves sucking Masuda's dick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:20:27 No.39372921 Report

Quoted By: >>39372978 >>39372993

>>39372906
Yeah, it's better then what GF did. The rest of your verbal vomit doesn't make any sense, so I guess that alone fried your brain already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:24:01 No.39372978 Report

Quoted By: >>39373006 >>39373068 >>39373143

>>39372921
Yeah because a game with 30 models having one animation is much better than a full console jrpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:24:27 No.39372982 Report

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>>39372463
prease understandu... fire coming from mouth is difficult.. we're a small indie studio..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:24:57 No.39372993 Report

Quoted By: >>39373073

>>39372921
He is saying that is false equivalency, which it is, and no matter how mad you are, that doesn't change that fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:25:57 No.39373006 Report

Quoted By: >>39373079

>>39372978
>Full

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:30:36 No.39373068 Report

Quoted By: >>39373092 >>39373105 >>39373136 >>39373183 >>39373326

>>39372814
>>39372978
HIGHEST
GROSSING
MEDIA
FRANCHISE
OF
ALL TIME

It is absolutely NOT unreasonable to have them fix mundane shit like this. Hire more people. Double the amount of workers. Make absolutely fucking sure this stuff sits. What the fuck happened to humanity that they are defending the lazy rich when they put in minimal effort?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:30:54 No.39373073 Report

Quoted By: >>39373105

>>39372993
It isn't and no matter how much you whine about it, it won't change that it perfectly shows how lazy GF and creatures are if chinks of all people manage to outdo them on a budget that is most likely next to nothing compared to what they have at hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:31:11 No.39373079 Report

Quoted By: >>39373101 >>39382938

>>39373006
>you get only 600 from the 900 pokemon
>t-this means that everything else I enjoyed about playing pokemon doesn‘t matter anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:31:56 No.39373092 Report

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>>39373068
When the product became an extension of ones self so that every attack against it is seen as an personal insult. Leave it to marketeers and their psychologist team, but they really figured that shit out well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:32:36 No.39373097 Report

Quoted By: >>39380883

>>39372814
PBR was able to make water actually shoot from Blastoise's cannons back in gen 4, why is it suddenly so hard now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:33:05 No.39373101 Report

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>>39373079
>cut pokemon for better animations
>no better animations to be seen
>mobile chink shit does exactly that
>not the same
I don't even want to know how far you've shoved GF dildo in your ass to come to that conclusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:33:12 No.39373105 Report

Quoted By: >>39373131 >>39373132 >>39373335 >>39381049

>>39373068
>>39373073
So you faggots want GF to animate every single pokemon to have a unique animation for ever single attack. How is that not idiotic? Not a single other franchise in the world, no matter the developer, could live to such absurd standars,

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:35:31 No.39373131 Report

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>>39373105
we don't. we just want all the pokemon and features we've come to expect and enjoy from the games to be included. but when they cut that shit for the sake of "high quality animations" we'll call them out on their bullshit by pointing out how fucking awful their animations are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:35:37 No.39373132 Report

Quoted By: >>39373157

>>39373105
Okay, I personally dont need individual attack animations, the thing I want, and what I think a lot of other people would be happy with is for them to actually MAKE SENSE, like fire/water actually coming out of the mouth/cannons instead of coming out of thin air, attacks being more than just moving the pokemon along the y axis, and giving the idle animations actual life.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:36:01 No.39373136 Report

Quoted By: >>39373207 >>39373279 >>39376658 >>39383813 >>39385359

>>39373068
Making a fuckload of money doesn't mean shit when you got terrible people running things.
S/S got fucked so hard cause the higher ups didn't give them the resources they needed. They split things up with Town and LGPE, leaving the mainline games likely with barely any more staff than usual despite needing to make a much higher fidelity game.

Honestly, I feel really bad for the animators that had to work on this. I'm sure they wanted to do all sorts of shit with it, but the execs didn't give them time or manpower to handle it and ended up making the cut decision while throwing the blame for it on the animation team.
Fact is, there's a lot of good animation in there. There's a lot of lazy, corner cutting animation for sure, but there's also a lot of really good character animations and some of the pokemon have really nice idle and attack animations. But people focus on the bad shit here because Masuda decided to go "Uh, it was for animation" when the actual ones at fault are the ones who did the project managing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:36:22 No.39373143 Report

Quoted By: >>39373448 >>39381246

>>39372814
>>39372895
>>39372978
They CAN code the effects to start from the mouth/cannons/wherever they need to.
They CAN show a walking animation for moves that make contact (animations they have since SM).
At this point, please note that they need one animation for special attacks that don't make contacts, one or two animations for moves that make contact.
They COULD have done idle animation that were expressive.
All of this was present in Pokémon Battle Revolution (Wii, 2006 for Japan, 2007 for the west).
They did not. They removed Pokémon from the game instead. Their animations aren't on par with a game released 13 years ago.
This behavior is unacceptable.
You use the excuse "the mobile game has only 30 Pokémon with 2 moves each", then explain why even LGPE doesn't have "high quality animations" on par with PBR. There are only 171 creatures in that game, and look how shit they look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:36:58 No.39373157 Report

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>>39373132
all of which were achievable on the Wii with PBR over a decade ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:38:30 No.39373183 Report

Quoted By: >>39373270 >>39374355 >>39380456 >>39380470 >>39384791

>>39373068
>highest media grossing franchise
>anime costs nothing, merch costs nothing, anime costs nothing, tcg costs nothing, employees work for free
>why can‘t you hire 500 people and just instantly make huge rpgs every year?!

One piece is the highest grossing manga and anime franchise and toei still shits out the ugliest anime episodes I have ever seen. Disney is still the biggest media corporation on this planet, still I don‘t see why they don‘t make incredible 2D movies that blows everything else out of the water, instead they just ruin star wars. I don‘t see any twitter fags with hashtags harrasing rian johnson who killed star wars?

Only thing I see are some shitty autists, who cry because of some data in a video game and are unable to say
>well maybe the game isn‘t for me anymore, let me search for something else and don‘t care about it anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:39:42 No.39373205 Report

Quoted By: >>39373342

>>39372814
>hurr they have to male a unique animation for every attack
Stop this. They can have generic animations for different categories of movies, no one gives a shit about that. Just make them look GOOD.

Anon

Anon Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:39:46 No.39373207 Report

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>>39373136
That's really sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:44:22 No.39373270 Report

Quoted By: >>39373290 >>39373316

>>39373183
if they can't afford to make quality games every year
then maybe they shouldn't be pumping out games every fucking year

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:45:02 No.39373279 Report

Quoted By: >>39376637 >>39376658

>>39373136
This. Bea has some incredible animation, nessas hair waving around are fucking awesome, protag animation looks smoth and not a walking robot like in sm, scorbunnys idle animation look fucking awesome.
>huh I don‘t care about that see how they reused one animation, that means everything is useless and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:46:05 No.39373290 Report

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>>39373270
Come back during a gap year and look how these autists here are crying for a new game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:46:32 No.39373299 Report

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>>39372814
>On real games there are HUNDREDS of attacks and 900 Pokémon.
But that's not true, especially not for SwSh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:48:28 No.39373316 Report

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>>39373270
The problem is that the games aren't isolated from the rest of TPCi. The games, anime, ptcg and rest of the merchandise is tuned for each other to release more or less within a certain window. You will never see them move the release date of one of the games since it would drag all the rest with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:49:30 No.39373326 Report

Quoted By: >>39373914 >>39376665

>>39373068
You people really come out as little ones who only understand how money and business work from "my dad has it".
I'm starting to believe some people were being literal when they used to say they were throwing money at the screen to make something come to reality...

>>39372847
True, not 900 pokémon anymore, but still hundreds. And the amount of moves won't change.
This is a geommetric progression. The more pokémon and the more moves, the ways they can intercross grows exponentially. Fine-tuning all of that or making exclusive animations for pokemon using those moves is just beyond absurd from a practical level with the current numbers we have - and yes, even with dexit and even for a rich company.
In Stadium it was possible because the amount of pokémon AND moves were much smaller than now. In Digimon games it is possible because each pokémon can only use 2-3 moves. In pokémon main games it simply isn't possible anymore.

That said, at least signature moves should benefit from good animations like that. And technically that's what we had from with the exclusive Z-moves... which are being removed now and replaced by G-max moves that have generic animations. That, I agree, is a backstep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:50:07 No.39373335 Report

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>>39373105
>So you faggots want GF to animate every single pokemon to have a unique animation for ever single attack.
No, I want every pokemon in the game. I don't give a shit about the animations, but since Masuda used the animations to justify cutting pokemon I expect actual quality from the animations

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:50:39 No.39373342 Report

Quoted By: >>39373376

The Charizard animation actually looks better though, unironically. Only problem is the misaligned Flamethrower, but judging the two based on the actual animations Charizard is doing, GF's one is clearly better and more weighty.

Stop acting like retards just to add more shit to complain about on your "shit to bitch about GF more" list.

>>39373205
They already fucking do this, every pokemon has multiple animations based on Special, Physical, Contact, ect, and moves are tied to these animations.

There's literally already thousands of attack animations in the main games, the vast majority of them are absolutely solid.

This idea that they need to do them all over, or add more unique animations for shit like Tail Whip, needs to die. Fuck everyone perpetuating this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:53:09 No.39373376 Report

Quoted By: >>39373409

>>39373342
>This idea that they need to do them all over, or add more unique animations for shit like Tail Whip, needs to die. Fuck everyone perpetuating this shit.
>Use high quality animations as an excuse to cut pokemon
>Get confused when people expect high quality animations

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:54:14 No.39373388 Report

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>>39372463
Worst part is there is a official product that is what I expected for gen 8 graphics and it doesn't look half bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:56:00 No.39373409 Report

Quoted By: >>39373448 >>39373472 >>39373477 >>39375893

>>39373376
Nobody said they were redoing all the old animations retard, they mean the upkeep of having to animate for larger enviornments and all the new shit.

If you seriously, unironically think its logical in any fucking way to scrap thousands of attack animations, and spend countless hours giving pokemon unique Tail Whip animations, you're a fucking spastic.

Someone needs to call this shit out. Being upset with stuff is one thing, but crying like a fucking bitch about stuff that makes no sense is pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:56:34 No.39373420 Report

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>>39372814
wahting the thing to look like that si foolish, but couldnt they line up the fire effect with its mouth, I would even mention that the thing charges way before the mouth is there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 21:59:24 No.39373448 Report

Quoted By: >>39373473 >>39373914 >>39380967

>>39373143
>They CAN code the effects to start from the mouth/cannons/wherever they need to.
Sadly that's not how it works. Each move has an animation (or not... double kick) that is set. Things like "going from left to right to match a specific pokémon animation" or "coming from a higher point of the screen to match a pokemon mouth position" can not be done unless each move animation gets a sepparate coding matching each pokémon individually.
It is not something outlandish unreal like expecting each pokémon to have an animation for every move, but would still demand a ridiculous amount of fine-tuning that in the end is completely useless as those can hardly be seen in a game and only come clear when people take prints of the frames. It would be cool, sure, but would require a fuck amount of time and effort that would be much better employed on different aspects of the game.

>>39373409
>Nobody said they were redoing all the old animations retard
ohmori said it himself on the famitsu interview. There's no excusing them here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:00:42 No.39373472 Report

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>>39373409
>Nobody said they were redoing all the old animations retard, they mean the upkeep of having to animate for larger enviornments and all the new shit
You mean like the N64 trees, the t-posing wingull, the multiple accounts of clipping, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:00:44 No.39373473 Report

Quoted By: >>39373511

>>39373448
>ohmori said it himself on the famitsu interview. There's no excusing them here.
I'm calling bullshit, and will continue to call bullshit until I see proof.

Saying they wanted to work on better animations =/= we're redoing all the damn animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:00:53 No.39373477 Report

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>>39373409
>cut pokemon in favor of better animations
>don't provide better animations
>wtf why is everyone upset

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:00:57 No.39373479 Report

Quoted By: >>39380816 >>39380847

>>39372814
They don't have to absolutely every single attack have an animation. Just have:

>Punch
>Kick
>Bite
>Tail
>Support
>Elemental (breath?) attack
>Idle
>Damage
>Faint
>Signature move

That's only about 10k animation loops that are about a second long. If the largest media franchise can't muster an hour and a half of animation rigging they should consider unironic suicide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:03:01 No.39373511 Report

Quoted By: >>39373551

>>39373473
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201906/13177936.html

You'll have to translate it yourself, but I assure you he says they were building models from scratch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:05:26 No.39373551 Report

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>>39373511
You believe that?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:06:23 No.39373575 Report

Quoted By: >>39373642 >>39380621

>>39372854
>Instead of wanting more new pokemon you fags cry because you can‘t play the ones you played since the first time you started a fucking pokemon game
I have never seen ONE cutfag who understands how transferring worked in older games or even when it became available to do so ingame. Tell me friend, what games in the series did you even play? Surely you at least played BW, which had only new pokemon available at the start but let you transfer old ones in the postgame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:11:19 No.39373642 Report

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>>39373575
yeah, i would like so much to transfer mon that they're not even coded in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:29:44 No.39373914 Report

Quoted By: >>39374300 >>39380987 >>39381246

>>39373326
Animations per Pokémon:
Idle
Entering in battle
Soaring (flying/levitating Pokémon only, ground them when they roost for a turn)
Fainting
Walking
Running
Contactless attacks (most special attacks, weather/terrain setting moves, Stone Edge, Earthquake...)
Punches (Poison Jab, Ice Punch...)
Kicks (Double Kick, Mega Kick...)
Bites (Hyper Fang, Fire Fang)
Tail (Aqua Tail, Iron Tail..., could just be the model rotating)
Charge (Quick Attack, Spark..., could just be the running animation)
Signature Move (?)
Getting damaged
14 animations per Pokémon at most. A pretty big number, but linear, not geometric, which they could also re-use for future games.
>>39373448
>get start point
>get target point
>draw effects
I'm oversimplifying it, but if PBR could, these games can too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:32:06 No.39373944 Report

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These webms are great, need to spam them everywhere. This shits embarrassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:34:00 No.39373963 Report

Quoted By: >>39373990 >>39373999

>>39372463
WHat the fuck? The top game looks sick. Someone sauce me? That’s not fucking GO is it? I didn’t think there were any actual battles in GO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:36:03 No.39373990 Report

Quoted By: >>39380938

>>39373963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KDEmTUOsbA
Here is where I took the clip. In the description there is a link for the Android version, but I haven't tried it.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:36:32 No.39373999 Report

Quoted By: >>39376892 >>39376964 >>39380465 >>39380710 >>39380938

>>39373963
It's from a chink gacha rip-off. There's an apk for the beta out, but I don't know how safe it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KDEmTUOsbA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:48:52 No.39374190 Report

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>>39372628
Fuck off Distant Kingdom, no one likes faggots that use negativity to mooch off kids that don't use adblock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 22:57:13 No.39374300 Report

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>>39373914
I forgot the landing and take off animations for flying Pokémon, which bring the total animations count to 16 at most. Maybe I missed more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:02:10 No.39374355 Report

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>>39373183
>anime, merch, tgc cost nothing
>employeees work for free
>anime twice
Nigger no one said this in the first place, not only that, TPCi IS IN CHARGE OF ALL OF THAT, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY KEEP, WHICH IS WELL ABOVE 40 BILLION I CAN ASSURE YOU, CAN EASILY MAKE MORE PRODUCTS THAN FUCKING DISNEY AND COKE COMBINED.
Game freak, at the MINIMUM, being really fucking generous here, get only 10 billion fucking dollars from their own franchise and child company's revenue, cuz anything lower and that has to be fucking bullshit or they are the most INCOMPETENT, LITERALLY BRAIN DEAD MORONS IN THE WORLD TO NOT ALREADY GET A GOOD CHUNK OF PROFIT. You know how many fucking red dead 2s 10 billion can make? 9 and a half of them you mongrel, there is ZERO possibilities where pokemon is this successful and they somehow also have zero fucking profits from their own franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:06:43 No.39374415 Report

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>>39372727
>go play showdown if you only care about animations!
>showdown doesn't have animations
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:07:11 No.39374421 Report

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>>39372814
This was a legit argument back in 2D. But now that everything is 3d there is NO excuse. Every single release needs to have more and more unique animations and slowly build it up.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:07:31 No.39374429 Report

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>>39372906
>look how this is better than gf hahaha
It actually is because it's actually animated
>but you fag this is actually just stolen shit poorly animated and doesn‘t feature a miniscule what the real games offer
Still better then anything done in /ss/ and by Gamfreak. these are models the Gamefreak have and can just port over to /ss/ but couldn't even do that, even if the models are stolen they still add more to then Gamefreak like they made them and own them, it's filled with way more passion despite it being a rip off, which is the saddest thing I've ever seen, just showing how far Pokemon has fallen.
>b-but t-they made more money than the chinks
They make a fuck ton of money and they still can't be bothered to move an attack effect to charizard's mouth>>39372463
, in all honesty that's all they would have to do to make me satisfied, but that require to much effort for Gamefreak, even for blastiose>>39372680
like his Mega in LGPE they could have move the water effect upwards and it would have worked.
This company does not have your best interest in mind, they are not your friend, they want your money, and they are trying to squeeze you dry while putting as little effort possible.

GAMEFREAK™

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GAMEFREAK™ Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:08:55 No.39374455 Report

Quoted By: >>39376813

>>39372463
Making animations is hard, asshole. Think about us for one second of your life. You think we're a huge multi billion dollar company? NO! We're a small, indie company. We're understaffed right now because our main team is working on the biggest franchise to come, TOWN.
Pokemon isn't big, especially in Japan, but haha I don't really know. It's okay for us to cut corners since everyone will buy it anyway.
So there you have it. Buy our games and stop complaining please

- Junichi Masuda, 2019

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:12:52 No.39374503 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372484
>Ferrothorn
The mobile game has like 15 Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jul 2019 23:14:27 No.39374526 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372814
This isn't an argument when we are talking about Dynamaxing animations because literally all moves of the same type turn into a single Dynamax Move. It's one fire move, ONE FIRE MOVE they had to make for Dynamaxed Charizard and they fucked it up.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 00:51:02 No.39375708 Report

Quoted By: >>39375736

>>39372463
I'm more bothered by how much better the overworld is in the chinese game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 00:53:10 No.39375729 Report

Quoted By: >>39375815 >>39382845

>>39372628
So you'd rather have 15 pokemon in a game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 00:53:47 No.39375736 Report

Quoted By:

>>39375708
It's just instanced areas where you battle

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 00:58:52 No.39375781 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372680
love how this shows that gamefreak got lazier as time went on from actually crudely animating it to just having it stand still
>tfw finally starting to hondastandu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:00:43 No.39375802 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372814
>implying the chink bootleggers wouldn't be able to do more had they had NEARLY the budget of Gamefreak
bitch please

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:01:43 No.39375815 Report

Quoted By: >>39377364

>>39375729
Battle Revolution had the best animations Pokemon has ever had and a roster of 400+ mons. Are you even trying at this point or are you just not aware of Battle Revolution, lil' zoom zoom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:02:14 No.39375821 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372906
>implying the SWSH models aren't reused either
>implying the chinks couldn't do better if they had nearly the budget or manpower of Gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:05:44 No.39375858 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372463

GF may not be the dumbest or laziest devs on the planet, but they've got a particular combination of stupidity and laziness that is utterly loathsome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:06:22 No.39375865 Report

Quoted By: >>39375885

I just don't understand.

Even without the comparison, I mean, Charizard is one of their main selling points. You'd think they'd have at least done some kind of fancy animation. Especially in dynamax form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:08:28 No.39375885 Report

Quoted By:

>>39375865
The special animation is only for Gigantamax Charizard :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:09:06 No.39375893 Report

Quoted By: >>39376070

>>39373409

how bad would the animations have to be for you to be upset?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:25:29 No.39376070 Report

Quoted By:

>>39375893
They could all be T-posing like Wingull and he would still eat it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:32:35 No.39376147 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372516
Why people use Holy kkdjddu soo ofensive to Holy Spirit of God

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:55:57 No.39376420 Report

Quoted By: >>39376860 >>39380697

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gj3ab7ZrML8

The amount of Gamefreak dick-sucking from Verlis is legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 01:57:07 No.39376436 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372463
The bootleg game has only like 60 Pokemon and 3 animations for each. Compared to over 500 or so with 60+ animations for one Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:12:22 No.39376637 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373279
>scorbunnys idle animation look fucking awesome
How about his double kick animation lad? :)

>protag animation looks smoth and not a walking robot like in sm
A shame other characters still uses that same walking robot animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:14:32 No.39376658 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373136
>>39373279
Holy fuck you people are praising GF for animating NPCs, do you realize this shit has been a bastic staple in other JRPGs for fucking decades? Along with actual cutscenes and voice acting? Do you people play games that aren't Pokemon????

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:14:55 No.39376665 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373326
>You people really come out as little ones who only understand how money and business work from "my dad has it".
And we have who acts pretty childish when other people are bringing facts about Game Freak doing a pretty poor job at justifying cutting content

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:28:57 No.39376813 Report

Quoted By: >>39378542

>>39374455
I'm not sure if this is satire done so well it seems real, or just retardation. I'm leaning towards some fine satire, but this site never ceases to surprise me with it's idiocy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:32:59 No.39376860 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376420
>constant buzzwords
>muh entitlement
>shills for likes as soon as possible
Jesus Christ, how are there still people who watch him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:35:23 No.39376892 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373999
That's fucking great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:36:28 No.39376909 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372814
Lol I just realized. The reason games like Stadium and BR have more fluid animations is because you have a fixed movepool for the rental Pokemon.

When you start transferring Pokemon in with weird movepools or pulling weird stunts like getting Diglett to fly, the cracks start to show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:37:41 No.39376925 Report

Quoted By: >>39376965 >>39377075 >>39377163 >>39377187 >>39377337 >>39379830 >>39379917 >>39379946 >>39381020 >>39382183 >>39382354 >>39382972

>>39372463
>Sitting though 20 second animations for each move in VGC
GF made these games for competitive play in mind. Sitting through these animations would take way too long for tournaments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:41:17 No.39376964 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373999
>floppy ears mewtwo
c-cute...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:41:21 No.39376965 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376925
>>actually giving a fuck about the esports crowd

You are part of the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 02:51:16 No.39377075 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376925
>remove graphics
see, I did it to help out all the blind people, that makes it okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 03:00:16 No.39377163 Report

Quoted By: >>39379830 >>39381027

>>39376925
Shit excuse. What takes long in battles is all the dead time between moves.
>Encounter
>slow zoom up
>shows caterpie
>wild caterpie appeared
>go Pikachu!
>Trainer throws ball
>awkward pause wild game loads
>click tackle
>second pause
>pikachu used tackle
>animation
>enemy hit animation
>HP crawls down
>critical hit!
>it's super effective!
>caterpie fainted
>fainting animation plays

The text needlessly haults the battle instead of letting it continue. The chink game managed to fix this too, even with three pokemon doing super moves back and forth the battles are over in half the time as normal. And if you're really such a spazz that you can't sit through short animations then there's a handy off button in the menu you can use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 03:02:44 No.39377187 Report

Quoted By: >>39378631

>>39376925
You say this, when the premiere tactic in the competitive scene is stalling.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 03:16:21 No.39377337 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376925
>poor/mediocre animations are acceptable because it makes pvp flow better
>in a game series with the option to turn off battle animations

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 03:18:17 No.39377364 Report

Quoted By:

>>39375815
Not to be a contrarian but i always thought PBR had meh animations. Also nice projection bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 05:25:46 No.39378542 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376813
It's satire, dude. I'm clearly making fun of him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 05:36:23 No.39378631 Report

Quoted By:

>>39377187
not in doubles, which is unfortunately all GF seems to care about when it comes to comp

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 07:08:18 No.39379293 Report

Quoted By: >>39379388 >>39379843 >>39381626 >>39385641

>>39372588
>MUH ANIMATIONS
>MUH GRAPHICS
>MUH POSTGAME
>MUH POKÉMON CUTTED
>MUH DIFFICULTY

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT THIS GAME TO BE YOU PIECE OF CHEESE AND CRACKERS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 07:28:12 No.39379388 Report

Quoted By: >>39379865

>>39379293
good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:00:32 No.39379830 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376925
all of what >>39377163 said, if game freak actually cared about making shit snappy, THEY WOULD'VE MADE IT SNAPPY BY NOW
Almost zero fucking rpgs have every bit of information trickle fed to you just cuz and if they do it's because they're brainlets like game freak and probably also aren't that popular
Only fucking gamefreak hasn't learned you can somehow put MAGICAL NUMBERS AND WORDS above what ever the fuck is being hit and even remove the crawling health animation, which, i imagine is part of their fucking "High quality animation" garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:03:36 No.39379843 Report

Quoted By:

>>39379293
Why are you acting like all of these things arent achievable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:04:45 No.39379846 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372680
Based chinks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:11:55 No.39379865 Report

Quoted By:

>>39379388
Unironically this.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:21:02 No.39379909 Report

Quoted By: >>39379935 >>39380026 >>39380038

>>39372463
I don't need to imagine. I just need to read this twitter thread.
https://twitter.com/queer_queenie/status/1149365773627998208
>This is the audience GameFreak wants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:22:47 No.39379917 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376925
>GF made these games for competitive play in mind.
>"removes megas"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:27:59 No.39379935 Report

Quoted By: >>39379978

>>39379909
But it's not about them reusing animations. It's about the fact that they stood on stage and told us effort was being used to improve animations. it's about a big fucking corporation lying to it's consumers and being shield for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:28:29 No.39379939 Report

Quoted By: >>39380761 >>39381054

Who the fuck plays with animations on? Battles are slow enough without them.
That being said animations still look like shit like they always have

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:29:15 No.39379946 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376925
now that's fresh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:29:38 No.39379950 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372588
If there is one thing more important than graphics in 3d space is Animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:33:58 No.39379973 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372914
Holy irony.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:34:51 No.39379978 Report

Quoted By: >>39379987

>>39379935
Tell that to the Twittertards.
>GameFreak shills think this is a good argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:36:09 No.39379987 Report

Quoted By: >>39380005 >>39380035 >>39380064

>>39379978
I mean... It's the exact same argument. It's a reused animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:40:15 No.39380005 Report

Quoted By:

>>39379987
>It's a reused animation.
Then there shouldn't be any excuse for cutting the Pokedex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:44:02 No.39380026 Report

Quoted By: >>39380038

>>39379909
Re-using XY animation is fine. Showing no care for details when you don’t need to remake the animation from scratch is unexcusable.
We’re not even talking about some random shitmon, this is one of the most popular Pokémon and it shoots fire from its fucking horns.
Do you really excuse their behavior?
Is it too much to have animations on par with a 2006 game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:44:59 No.39380035 Report

Quoted By:

>>39379987
But Disney never put itself in to a posistion saying something like "We are going to drop Pixar Studios in order to create high quality animated works." Then they reuse Animation assets from Bolt and Wreck it Ralph

That is what Gamefreak is doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:45:36 No.39380038 Report

Quoted By:

>>39379909
>>39380026
I’m retarded. Sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 09:52:43 No.39380064 Report

Quoted By: >>39380265

>>39379987
>It's the exact same argument
Wow, disney in 1973, before they became the literal all-consuming conglomerate shitfest they are, reused animations for completely hand drawn, labor intensive work.
Like, you have to be a special kind of retard to be able to try and argue "This is the same thing don't nag" during a time where a fucking literal fiscal titan like game freak who has at MINIMUM over 10 billion dollars to use to make NEW ANIMATIONS FOR THEIR NOW 400+ CREATURES to a film form that requires literal months to get about 30 minutes of fucking footage when the company is still nowhere near massive as it's current day form

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 10:33:48 No.39380238 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372463
I wouldn't prise chinese mobile kusoges normally but the animations on this one are really good. It probabily was made by pokémon fans themselves. It looks so soulful, so lifeful. I didn't believe I couldbambini say that for shitty mobages but holy shit that Gengar animation is one of the best shit I've seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 10:36:21 No.39380248 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372588
>"we cut pokemon to improve animation quality haha"
>WHY DOES EVERY CARE SO MUCH ABOUT ANIMATIONS REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 10:39:37 No.39380265 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380064
At that point Disney's animation department was really not making a profit and they had to find a way to cut costs while still keeping Walt's dream alive. They were backed into a corner, Masuda and friends are not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 10:42:37 No.39380286 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372588
What’s your argument, then? Oh yeah you have none to make

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 10:57:01 No.39380367 Report

Quoted By: >>39385568

NOOOO STOP CRITICIZING
JUST
FUCKING
CONSUUUUUUUME

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:13:42 No.39380456 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373183
Try again on Disney. They're still making masterpieces like Toy Story 4 and you may not like the story of The Last Jedi but it had bleeding edge graphics and Pokemon is generations behind in that department.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:16:25 No.39380465 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373999
Omg Ho-Oh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:16:33 No.39380466 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372463
I dunno, out of those two, give me the animation which plays out five times faster. I don't want to have to sit through the same, drawn out animation every time I select an attack. This is also why I never used Mega Evolution or Z Moves in my playthroughs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:17:26 No.39380470 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373183
>instead they just ruin star wars. I don‘t see any twitter fags with hashtags harrasing rian johnson who killed star wars?

Are you insane? That was a huge issue, basically split the entire fandom in two, and Star Wars lost a lot of worth as a brand. Now the majority of fans either don't like the new movies or have mixed feelings, when before they were probably mostly positive.

And there are plenty of One Piece fans who complain about Toei's poor quality, there just hasn't been anything to upset them in a huge way like TLJ or Dexit, and it's a more niche fandom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:18:12 No.39380476 Report

Quoted By: >>39380521

>>39372463
Then play china shit poorfag, don't cry here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:23:55 No.39380521 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380476
Fuck off shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:39:05 No.39380621 Report

Quoted By: >>39380639

>>39373575
>this retarded argument again
No we don't want to be able to use the same pokemon for the mainstory all over again. We just want all pokemon coded into the game so we can at least transfer our old bros into the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:42:01 No.39380639 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380621
haha, dumb gaijin
you have to pay for your kilobytes every year
oh, and it will be $9,99 + tip now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:42:45 No.39380644 Report

Quoted By: >>39380727 >>39383028

>>39372814
Hmm yes, I get what you're saying. There's no franchise that could possibly do all that.

Oh wait...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPNI31PZkCk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:51:17 No.39380697 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376420
This furfaggot still alive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:53:17 No.39380710 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373999
Ho-Oh looks so good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 11:56:11 No.39380727 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380644
Those are some high quality animations...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:01:49 No.39380761 Report

Quoted By:

>>39379939
I do and always have since i was a little kid. It was such a fucking mind fuck when pokemon suddently moved for like 3 frames when GSC came out. So yeah it may not be important for you but they are for the vast mayority. I mean you will always have the option to turn them off so what gives?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:02:50 No.39380773 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372814
True. Its honestly a bad comparison. But ppl are gonna hate uncritically regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:08:50 No.39380801 Report

Quoted By: >>39380850

Are the Japanese aware of the bootleg? How do they feel about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:10:54 No.39380816 Report

Quoted By: >>39380847

>>39373479
Honestly that still multiplies their current workload by quite a bit. But they could have done it, and then I would have accepted their cutting of the dex.

BUT the better solution would just be to hugely limit the moves that Pokemon can learn, so not every Pokemon needs every animation. Altho it would also be controversial, like if they removed TMs and certain moves, it wouldn't be nearly as bad as the current shitstorm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:13:33 No.39380831 Report

Quoted By: >>39380837

>>39372814
Wow it's almost if quantity =/= quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:14:29 No.39380837 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380831
So cut more Pokemon?

On it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:15:49 No.39380847 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373479
>>39380816
Honestly in most cases people can live with bite being added to punch and tail being added to kick, and support/elemental being lumped together, plus a lot of signature moves can fit into one of the other categories if they need to cut down on the workload. Still a lot but it'd significantly cut down the work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:16:09 No.39380850 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380801
I have seen at lest one on twittwer retweet the video, dunno if many saw it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:16:46 No.39380852 Report

Quoted By: >>39380865 >>39380867 >>39382493

you all tricked me into trying this chinky mobile game and its fucking shit. theres like 10 pokemon in it and everything that isnt the 2 unique animations for each pokemon looks the exact same. nothing happens in the game except "watch the cool animation again teehee" stop hyping this garbage
though as i type this i realize this could also be an exaggerated explanation of sword and shield so whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:18:32 No.39380865 Report

Quoted By: >>39380881

>>39380852
nice try with your LARP. the game isn't out till the 19th.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:18:50 No.39380867 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380852
>missing the point this hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:20:04 No.39380872 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372463
It's you again. You are literally unironically attention seeking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:20:47 No.39380875 Report

Quoted By:

The one from Masters looks like melted Singles Kraft cheese beam. Doesn't even looks like fire desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:21:03 No.39380876 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372814
IT WAS FUCKING 6 YEARS AND A LOT OF POKE.ON HAVE NO SECOND ATTACK ANIMATION AND EVEN IDDLE ANIMATION

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:21:52 No.39380881 Report

Quoted By: >>39380939

>>39380865
download the apk and play in chinese, none of the text matters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:22:06 No.39380883 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373097
RATING

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:24:18 No.39380892 Report

Quoted By: >>39380904

>>39372463
>I am blind

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:26:44 No.39380904 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380892
>I have no argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:30:08 No.39380928 Report

Quoted By: >>39380938

May have missed it and blind as fuck, But whats the name of this game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:31:30 No.39380938 Report

Quoted By: >>39380946

>>39380928
>>39373990
>>39373999

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:31:38 No.39380939 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380881
>still LARPing
try again. servers won't be up till the 19th

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:32:13 No.39380946 Report

Quoted By:

>>39380938
Yup Im totally blind, thanks a ton nonetheless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:35:17 No.39380967 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373448
You can program beam to go from point a to b.
Then you put point a and b on every pokemon. Its not easy but doable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:37:01 No.39380987 Report

Quoted By: >>39385155

>>39373914
Dedene has fucking 13 animations in amie itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:40:57 No.39381020 Report

Quoted By:

>>39376925
Strong moves should be longer for feeling of the impact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:41:58 No.39381027 Report

Quoted By:

>>39377163
Yesss somone who understands!
If they showed the text in same moment stuff happened it would be way better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:42:48 No.39381037 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372463
>blast doesn't even line up with its mouth
animations are somehow devolving

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:43:41 No.39381049 Report

Quoted By:

>>39373105
It wouldn't kill them to individually animate at least the starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:44:09 No.39381054 Report

Quoted By: >>39381441

>>39379939
stick to battle simulators, boring faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:44:50 No.39381057 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372814
>there are [...] 900 Pokémon
except there arent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:53:01 No.39381124 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372588
>GF cuts Pokemon for better animations
>People criticize the animations
>">MUH ANIMATIONS"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 12:59:07 No.39381163 Report

Quoted By: >>39381246 >>39383009

>>39372463
yea SwSh Charizard animation looks like a generic one for all sp atk, and the one they didn't have to fuck up they did, and for the trailer none the less, on the other hand, animating 3 atacks for 30 pokemon is way faster then 15-30 atacks for over 600 pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 13:13:33 No.39381246 Report

Quoted By:

>>39381163
>>39373914
>>39373143

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 13:17:50 No.39381275 Report

Quoted By: >>39381315

Anybody have that image explaining the Lillie situation? The one with multiple models?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 13:21:33 No.39381304 Report

Quoted By:

>>39372588
>JUST CONSUME

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 13:23:30 No.39381315 Report

Quoted By:

>>39381275
Multiple models help loading areas faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 13:36:19 No.39381441 Report

Quoted By:

>>39381054
>battle simulators
not autistic, sorry
>boring faggot
oh yeah because seeing the same animations over and over totaling hours of play time is so, so much fun and not boring at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 13:59:29 No.39381626 Report

Quoted By:

>>39379293
I want a game that instead of thinking up "new and better" gimmicks that will at most be used in two games, will look to the fans and ask what they want.
Less "OMG U has to save teh wurld!!" with 15+ hours of cutscenes and maybe instead just an open world.
Maybe different ways of going the same route. Like you could go through and get "HMs" and save 2-3 minutes on the route, but you could also just go around stuff and still end up the same place but without needing "HMs"

Don't hold my hand throughout the game. If I happen to walk into a lvl 50+ area and I get my shit stomped because I only have a lvl 10 team, then so be it. I will learn not to go there.

And for the love of Arceus please no more legendaries. At the most, 1 new per generation. We have like 50 legendaries at this point

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 14:22:31 No.39381835 Report

Quoted By: >>39382211 >>39384133

>>39372727
It's BECAUSE they said they Thanos'd the dex for ANIMATIONS is why we're being super critical of them.

I'd ignore the shit animations if we had all the Pokémon, but the fact of the matter is that game freak told us they were improving the animations and instead are just copying and pasting

And these Chinese people have proven these very same models can be as expressive as we're expecting from a Pokemon game

The backlash wouldn't be nearly as bad if game freak showed us these types of animations and then told us in order to get this expressiveness they couldn't get all the Pokémon in the game.

I would honestly be satisfied if the pokemon animations in swsh conveyed their personalities like in that mobile game

But no. We have game freak. So that'll never happen

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 15:03:45 No.39382183 Report

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>>39376925
I put as much effort into this as GameFreak does their games

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 15:06:11 No.39382200 Report

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>>39372680

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 15:07:29 No.39382211 Report

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>>39381835
Gamefreak didn't say that though. They named animations in a list of reasons that having lots of Pokemon in every game is hard on their dev time and resources, which makes sense. Any new feature that requires new animations would require new animations in 1000 different models.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 15:23:52 No.39382354 Report

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>>39376925
what the fuck lol

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 15:32:36 No.39382422 Report

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>>39372906
>poorly animated and doesn‘t feature a miniscule what real games offer
talking about mainline pokemon games here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 15:33:39 No.39382433 Report

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>game all about monsters
>don't make any effort on the monsters
ok

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 15:40:07 No.39382493 Report

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>>39380852
it's chinese mobile shit. of course it sucks as an actual game. the only reason people are bringing it up is because the animations make a mockery of game freak's excuses.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 15:52:20 No.39382628 Report

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okay im just going to go ahead and say it

FUCK
GAMEFREAK

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 16:16:53 No.39382845 Report

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>>39375729
Pokemon stadium 2 had all gen 1 and 2 pokemon. I’m sure if they can make decent animations back in the 90’s to 250+ pokemon, they can do animations with all the new pokemon

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 16:22:03 No.39382899 Report

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>>39372588
>non-existent gameplay because the game is still stuck at the 20yo rpg rock-paper-scissors combat system
>improved animations would be the reason for someone to buy the new games
>animations don't matter!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 16:24:12 No.39382924 Report

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>>39372814
>On real games there are HUNDREDS of attacks and 900 Pokémon
So SwSh is not a real game? Got it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 16:25:44 No.39382938 Report

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>>39373079
>game prices go up from $40 to $60
>that's an increase of 50%
>less pokemons available and still shit animations
Defend this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 16:28:53 No.39382972 Report

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>>39376925
Only that the bootleg has faster animations than the real games. Gigantamax and Dynamax moves look like they will take a lot of time to perform... and they still look like hot garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 16:32:45 No.39383009 Report

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>>39381163
>animating 3 atacks for 30 pokemon is way faster then 15-30 atacks for over 600 pokemon.
Still doable if they didn't send the team 1 to make some shitty rpg nobody will buy. And the animations would be reusable for future games

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 16:34:44 No.39383027 Report

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>>39372463
Hold up. Are the flames supposed to be centered on the camera?

So the reason attacks are off is because GF can't get the cam to center on the Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 16:34:58 No.39383028 Report

Quoted By: >>39383729

>>39380644
That's a bit of a false equivalency.
Yes, both games are monster taming RPGs, but their scopes are vastly different.

Cyber Slueth Hacker's Memory has 341 Digimon, which is an okay number compared to the 300-400 we'll likely get in S/S. But the amount of animations needed per digimon are far fewer since they only really need combat animations and the walking animation whereas Pokemon also have all the stuff they do in Amie/Refresh/Camp. Then there's the issue of everything beyond the digimon/pokemon. The worlds and areas of S/S are a lot more varied with fewer assets that can be shared than in Cyber Slueth which has a more consistent visual style. Not sure on how the scopes of the story modes compare either, but I'm gonna assume they're comperable.
Also, with the Digimon, every digimon has a signature move. That's what those fancier animations are. Most Pokemon don't have that and most of those that do have signature moves actually do have unique animations to go with them. For the most part they're not as flashy as most of the digimon moves, but they're kinda not meant to be. They're still kept short and to the point so they don't interrupt the flow battle.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 17:41:54 No.39383729 Report

Quoted By: >>39383954

>>39383028
>Amie/Refresh/Camp.
Than get rid of the shitty gimmick crap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 17:49:09 No.39383813 Report

Quoted By: >>39383954

>>39373136
Lol. They had to add eyebrows to his mask in his lose animation to make him seem sad. How sad is that.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 18:00:12 No.39383954 Report

Quoted By: >>39384486 >>39385212

>>39383729
>Not liking petting, feeding and playing with your pokemon
I guess you hate things like original digimon and tomogachi?

>>39383813
What?
First, where are there eyebrows on his mask? There's a point where you see his eyes through the eyeholes and they're angry, but they don't have brows on the mask itself.
Second, we don't see his loss animation there at all. All those animations will probably be from his introduction or during the fight.
In the Demo, Nessa had multiple points where she cut in to say something. She did it at the start of the fight, then she did it before she dynamax'd

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 18:14:15 No.39384133 Report

Quoted By: >>39384508 >>39385176

>>39381835
So don't play it. Quit repeating the same thing every other baby says about this game for babies. We get the point, get a new hobby.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 18:40:18 No.39384486 Report

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>>39383954
>I guess you hate things like original digimon and tomogachi?
That's not part of the game at all. Just make a side game that's connected to pokemon home for the furfags that want to touch their mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 18:41:21 No.39384508 Report

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>>39384133
dilate joe

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 19:04:34 No.39384791 Report

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>>39373183
Disney makes some of the most visually impressive CG movies in the world. You just shot your argument in the foot.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 19:20:59 No.39384955 Report

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what the fuck? so apparently they did remake the models? are they unironically retarded or is this fake?

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 19:38:52 No.39385155 Report

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>>39380987
amie was a mistake

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 19:40:27 No.39385176 Report

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>>39384133
>so dont play it
every fucking time joe

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 19:40:46 No.39385179 Report

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>>39382183
hey atleast you drew the stick man winding up a punch. For most pokemon its just 'short hop'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 19:43:26 No.39385212 Report

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>>39383954
>I guess you hate things like original digimon and tomogachi?
Amie and all that is cool and all but there is absolutely no reason to waste resources on animating so much for it. They'd be better off merging those mechanics with HOME so that it can work with other Pokemon and not take away resources from SWSH

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 19:55:19 No.39385359 Report

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>>39373136
That hand clipping into the sleeve.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 20:11:04 No.39385568 Report

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>>39380367
MAKING GAMES IS HARD
JUST CONSUME

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jul 2019 20:15:57 No.39385641 Report

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>>39379293
A game with everything you mentioned

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