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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:44:49 No.39401386 View View Reply Original Report

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Should it be nerfed in gen 8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:47:29 No.39401414 Report

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>>39401386
Absolutely. It's basically a free kill.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:50:14 No.39401436 Report

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>>39401386
mega gengar is gone, wobbuffet can't handle the power creep anymore, and gothitelle isn't strong enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:51:12 No.39401448 Report

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>>39401436
Normal Gengar should get Levitate back if it's losing its Mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:51:55 No.39401459 Report

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>>39401448
Gengar's bound to get a Gigantamax, as are most of the popular/gen 1 Pokemon who lost their Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Jul 2019 23:53:57 No.39401479 Report

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>>39401436
paper mario 64 = GOAT

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 01:04:37 No.39402324 Report

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>>39401386
No. Git fucking gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 01:52:53 No.39402817 Report

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>>39401386
>Shadow Tag, Arena Trap, and Magnet Pull now last 2 turns

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 01:58:41 No.39402863 Report

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>>39402817
Maybe 3 turns since that's a pretty common number for "lock" type moves in Pokemon, but this type of change is genuinely the only good suggestion I've heard when it comes to tweaking these abilities. Yeah, Wobb would be left in the dumpster, but at least the other Pokemon with these abilities would no longer be anti-fun.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 01:58:52 No.39402864 Report

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>>39401386
Should it be nerfed in Gen 8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:00:23 No.39402873 Report

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>>39402863
Even better, remove these abilities from all pokemon other than Wobbuffet and Wynaut

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:02:50 No.39402890 Report

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>>39402863
I was thinking the turn limit would hurt the Literally Satan set for Gothitelle and the Perish Song set for Gengar. The latter being why I thought of giving only 2 turns.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:03:26 No.39402897 Report

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>>39402864
Half the Pokemon that have this are still shitmons anyways, so probably not. Hell, Reuniclus has it and doesn't even use it.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:08:10 No.39402935 Report

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>>39402890
With how Perish Song and turn counts work, 3 turns won't actually let you kill with it, because Perish Song actually takes 4 turns to kill despite its description (3, 2, 1, 0). On top of that, if you switch in, like Gothitelle usually has to, it actually only gives you two turns to abuse it since the first turn is burned on the switch. So 3 turns is the maximum you can give while getting the outcome you're looking for.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:09:27 No.39402946 Report

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>>39401386
Idk but at least moody ability is confirmed to get a nerf in swsh.

>>39401436
This and gothitelle is only useable sometimes because of this in vgc and it's more balanced on BBC anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:10:13 No.39402953 Report

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>>39401386
Yes they should remove every Shadow Tag Pokemon from the Galar dex to balance the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:12:21 No.39402977 Report

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>>39401386
>>39402817
Nah.

Make Shadow Tag activate only when the Pokemon is below 50% HP. That way you can't just bait Scarfed/Banded mons, and any set-up you make with the trapped mon can later be ruined by Priority.

Make Arena Trap only work at full HP. That way you have to be careful with Entry Hazards and Hail gets good.

Leave Magnet Pull as is. Steel-type is OP.

Also, power-up Blaze, Overgrow, etc. So they trigger at below 50% HP. They are nigh-worthless as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:21:45 No.39403069 Report

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Rock types now absorb stealth rocks on entry and gain +1 def. Rock types now resist rock and ground.

Ice types now resist water and are immune to ice.

Psychic types are now immune to fairies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 02:30:41 No.39403151 Report

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>>39402897
That’s most because they can outclass each other.
Like why would you want Amoongus if you have Tangrowth, or why would you want Slowbro when Toxapex exists or even Alomomola?
I also feel like Reuniclus prefers Magic Guard due to Calm Mind/Double Dance being much better than Specs/AV on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 03:37:33 No.39403745 Report

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>>39401386
>Full Metal Body is now immune to Fire Moves completely
>Hyper Cutter will now never lower the user’s Attack, even when using moves like Super Power
>Healer now has a 10% chance to heal a teammate’s status if both are not out on the field
>Damp now blocks all moves that Bullet Proof blocks, and vice versa
>Honey Gather now heals 1/8 of the user’s HP for every Grass type on the field and heals 1/16th health if Grassy Terrain is up
>Shield Dust will have the secondary effects that otherwise would activated affect the opposing Pokemon instead, excluding flinching (but is still immune)
>Zen Mode heals to Max Health and is permanent until the battle is over or Darmanitan is revived
>Klutz will deal damage to the opponent if the user misses a move, the user will damage the opponent with a neutral type attack ((Fling/((100%-Accuracy)*100)) + (Heavy Slam/(2*(100%-Accuracy)*100)))

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 04:02:28 No.39403953 Report

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>>39401436
>>39401448

I theorize Gigantamax is a stealth way to nerf Mega Evolution rather than removing those forms entirely. (Making it last only 3 turns.)

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 04:09:33 No.39404014 Report

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>>39402864
The ability is fine, Toxapex just has too many other things going for it.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jul 2019 08:14:44 No.39405672 Report

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>>39403745
A full heal is too much with Zen mode, a 25% heal is better.
Its an ability that is hard to make actually good.

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