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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:10:40 No.39453108 View View Reply Original Report

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Daily reminder that Dexitbros dont give a fuck about the quality of the Pokemon games.

They ONLY care about the lack of Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:12:00 No.39453116 Report

Quoted By: >>39453223

>>39453108
And I should care, why?
Having all the Pokémon was the only good aspect of this series left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:12:30 No.39453120 Report

Quoted By: >>39453159

For some, having a full dex might mean quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:12:43 No.39453122 Report

Quoted By: >>39453455 >>39454492

>>39453108
which is why i’m thankful gamefreak isn’t pandering to them

SwSh looks amazing and the extra time they have from not needing to model every pokémon seems well spent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:12:46 No.39453123 Report

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>>39453108
Quality doesn't increase for not having them. Quite the opposite since they are the main gameplay faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:12:50 No.39453124 Report

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>>39453108
its true.
people dont even realize gen 7 pokemon had more animations than non gen 7 pokemon in sm/usum
quality doesnt matter as long as the bro is there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:13:15 No.39453128 Report

Quoted By: >>39453154 >>39453197

if dubs op is a fag

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:14:30 No.39453138 Report

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>>39453108
Fool, we light fires so that others can continue the war for us. The original motive is irrelevant so long as others chime in to say GameFreak's animations are poor and the end result is aneurysms on shills' ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:15:52 No.39453148 Report

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shame that pokemon games now have no quality or quantity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:16:32 No.39453154 Report

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>>39453128
why though
maybe u r fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:17:16 No.39453159 Report

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>>39453120
Then they don't know what quality actually means and only care about "m-muh bro"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:18:01 No.39453167 Report

Quoted By: >>39453202

>>39453108
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:19:10 No.39453180 Report

Quoted By: >>39458038

>>39453108
Yes, otherwise they would have started their twitter hashtags when ORAS came out. Most of the dexitfags are probably just autistic shiny hunters who don't care about literally anything else in the game except whether or not they can breed their favorite Pokemon.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:19:19 No.39453182 Report

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>>39453108
I didn't know fans were allowed to care about only one flaw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:21:15 No.39453197 Report

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>>39453128
if dubs YOU'RE a fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:21:37 No.39453202 Report

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>>39453167
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:23:17 No.39453216 Report

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>>39453108
maybe they know pokemon is never going to get better and was never "quality" to begin with
you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:24:35 No.39453223 Report

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>>39453116
FPBP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:25:11 No.39453227 Report

Quoted By: >>39453309 >>39453330

>>39453202
Actually, he hasn’t committed a fallacy because he hasn’t argued anything. He’s pointing out that op’s making a strawman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:37:29 No.39453309 Report

Quoted By: >>39453380

>>39453227
I don't think you know what a strawman is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:39:50 No.39453330 Report

Quoted By: >>39453380

>>39453227
Yes he has. He's arguing that OP is making a strawman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:41:03 No.39453339 Report

Quoted By: >>39453352

>>39453108
Why would that be the case when there's threads shitting on the graphics and animations every few hours?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:42:46 No.39453352 Report

Quoted By: >>39453412 >>39453572 >>39453608

>>39453339
Because most of those people only started caring about the graphics and animations as soon as their precious Pokemon were cut. But if their bro was in they wouldn't give a single fuck about criticizing the poor graphics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:46:28 No.39453380 Report

Quoted By: >>39453432 >>39453446

>>39453309
A strawman is an attack on a misrepresented, usually weaker argument apparently of the opposition. The argument being made here is that wanting the entire dex means that quality will be sacrificed, so the entire dex shouldn’t be brought back.
>>39453330
Pointing out a fallacy is not an argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:47:36 No.39453394 Report

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what do you mean "daily reminder"? I haven't seen you before. is this your first one? you don't really get to call it a "daily reminder" unless you actually stick to that schedule.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:49:09 No.39453412 Report

Quoted By: >>39453446

>>39453352
The graphics and animations don't matter that's why. They don't make the game objectively better.

Being told that's why they're dropped though when you don't care but can also see it's a lie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:51:32 No.39453432 Report

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>>39453380
Actually, I don’t think this is a strawman. Not exactly. It’s like some variant of an attack on their person.
>they want this so they’re actually sacrificing quality which is bad therefore they’re wrong to want this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:53:08 No.39453446 Report

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>>39453412
>The graphics and animations don't matter that's why.
Thanks for proving OP correct.

>>39453380
>A strawman is an attack on a misrepresented
OP isn't misrepresenting anything. He's making a correct statement.

>The argument being made here is that wanting the entire dex means that quality will be sacrificed
Ah, so the problem is that you're illiterate. That explains things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:54:08 No.39453455 Report

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>>39453122
>looks amazing
You fags are the worst

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:54:10 No.39453456 Report

Quoted By: >>39453513

>>39453108
Yup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 20:59:40 No.39453513 Report

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>>39453456
ebin strawman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:04:43 No.39453569 Report

Quoted By: >>39453607 >>39453622

>>39453108
>neuter one of the main aspects of the game
>criticize art quality, animation quality, and lazy new mechanic
>>they don’t care about the quality of the games!
This entire thing is because people don’t think the quality we’re being shown necessitates the removal of Pokemon. But you knew that, right? This entire thread is probably just baitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:04:50 No.39453572 Report

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>>39453352
I'd still shit on the graphics but if all the Pokemon were in (or at least added with a post-patch) i'd be less mad because i never expected Gamefreak to deliver a super high quality experience., if they fixed some of the low res stuff than the game wouldn't look that bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:06:34 No.39453590 Report

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>>39453108
True. I don't really give a shit about the national dex, but I'm glad that the games are getting backlash at all.
Even with the full pokédex, Sword and shield would just be low effort, glorified 3ds games cash grabs. This franchise a lot better.

Pokemon games have always been way behind compared to the other Nintendo IPs. The go-to excuse was that "it's handheld game on much weaker console please understandu". But it turns out that was bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:08:13 No.39453607 Report

Quoted By: >>39453630

>>39453569
>>criticize art quality, animation quality, and lazy new mechanic
>that they only started criticizing when they realized their bro might be missing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:08:16 No.39453608 Report

Quoted By: >>39453632 >>39453722

>>39453352
Probably because the series was on handheld before. How are you going to make something really look outstanding on a fucking 3ds? Even then, I’ve seen people criticize how the games have looked before. Only now there’s really no excuse because it’s on a far more powerful system and they’re doing less work overall because of the Dex being gutted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:09:31 No.39453622 Report

Quoted By: >>39453672 >>39453695

>>39453569
>lazy new mechanic
It's objectively less lazy than the previous two attempts. People are only butthurt about it because "WAAAAH MY EBIN SUPER SAIYAN FORMS ARE MISSING" which goes right back into the argument that Dexitfags don't care about quality, they're only just whining because their "bros" are missing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:10:21 No.39453630 Report

Quoted By: >>39453648

>>39453607
>>that they only started criticizing when they realized their bro might be missing
>implying people haven’t criticized Mega Evos
>implying people haven’t criticized Z-Moves
>implying people haven’t criticized the art direction and animations of previous games
you hooked me senpai

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:10:32 No.39453632 Report

Quoted By: >>39453646

>>39453608
>Probably because the series was on handheld before
No, because it's the series had all their precious bros before. As long as their bro is in they don't give a single fuck about graphics.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:11:14 No.39453642 Report

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>>39453108
>I’m a retard that thinks everything is black and white

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:11:46 No.39453646 Report

Quoted By: >>39453656

>>39453632
Wrong. The only reason you’re saying this is because you’re desperate to defend anything Masuda does you cumguzzling gook enabler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:11:48 No.39453648 Report

Quoted By: >>39453662

>>39453630
>ignoring the fact that the bitching about these things conveniently massively increased when the dex cut was confirmed
>"th-they totally care about the quality guys!"

Trypp F'haag !!bZFPoDj7jq3

Trypp F'haag !!bZFPoDj7jq3 Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:12:04 No.39453650 Report

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Show me where the fucking quality is.
Less quantity just means less quantity. It doesn't automatically give more quality.
Besides, in Pokémon, quantity is the only form of quality the games had left, and now that's gone, so they're shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:12:49 No.39453656 Report

Quoted By: >>39453724

>>39453646
Except I'm not defending Masuda. I'm just pointing out the low standards of Dexitfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:13:46 No.39453662 Report

Quoted By: >>39453668

>>39453648
>STILL implying people didn’t complain about those before
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:14:17 No.39453668 Report

Quoted By: >>39453679

>>39453662
>STILL implying that none of the dexitfags didn't suddenly start complaining about poor graphics after the cut confirmation
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:14:29 No.39453672 Report

Quoted By: >>39453708

>>39453622
>lmao Pokemon but just bigger
>not lazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:14:47 No.39453679 Report

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>>39453668
>STILL implying these grievances weren’t always a thing
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:16:10 No.39453695 Report

Quoted By: >>39453708

>>39453622
>it’s objectively less lazy
>blowing up the model and add some clouds is less lazy than a brand new model with new animations
>also somehow less lazy than 40 long winded animations for Z-moves
shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:17:09 No.39453702 Report

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>>39453108
Daily reminder that apologists need a strawman to make their nonstop brand fellatio feel justified.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:17:28 No.39453708 Report

Quoted By: >>39453757

>>39453672
>>39453695
>haha maybe if I lie and conveniently ignore things I can call it lazy

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:19:40 No.39453722 Report

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>>39453608
>How are you going to make something really look outstanding
Dunno but i think it has something to do with soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:19:43 No.39453724 Report

Quoted By: >>39453731

>>39453656
>get told the pokemon are cut because high quality graphics and animations
>graphics and animatons looks really bad
>why is everyone mad about the graphics
WOW I WUNDER WHY YOU FUCKING RETARDED SHILL FAGGOT KYS you one cell bootlicker

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:20:24 No.39453731 Report

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>>39453724
>>why is everyone mad about the graphics
You mean the graphics they conveniently weren't mad about before because they have low standards?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:22:41 No.39453750 Report

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>>39453108
>there's a noticeable difference between gen 700 mons and 900+ mons
I can't wait for the game to come. Then you'll all realize how meaningless the change was. It's rather embarrassing how I have to explain how marginal value completely destroys the dextranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:23:15 No.39453755 Report

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The only quality in these games is change to HD, some the building designs, the shoddy attempt at moving the camera, and the little cake fuck toy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:23:23 No.39453757 Report

Quoted By: >>39453777

>>39453708
still lazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:25:36 No.39453777 Report

Quoted By: >>39453806

>>39453757
>i-it's lazy because I don't like it!

yeah I guess mega evolutions just being the same design but with pointless details slapped on also make them lazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:29:12 No.39453806 Report

Quoted By: >>39453900

>>39453777
megas weren’t just a cosmetic change. stop being disingenuous and wasting trips.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:32:25 No.39453835 Report

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>>39453108
>the quality
where is it? Where's the quality?

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:33:26 No.39453843 Report

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>>39453108
We're not getting anything good in return for the loss. It's just SM with -50% of the pokemon and +50% of the cost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:39:38 No.39453900 Report

Quoted By: >>39454005

>>39453806
>megas weren’t just a cosmetic change
Neither is Dyna/Gigantamax. Stop being disingenuous and wasting oxygen.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:43:04 No.39453923 Report

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The games will be shit regardless of the national dex, this is game freak we're talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 21:52:54 No.39454005 Report

Quoted By: >>39454054

>>39453900
>Neither is Dyna/Gigantamax.

never said they weren’t, dumbass. they’re definitely more lazy than just refining what we already had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 22:00:31 No.39454054 Report

Quoted By: >>39454205

>>39454005
>making a brand new mechanic that combines and tries to balance the previous two mechanics instead of just rehashing and slapping more garbage into the previous two mechanics makes it lazy

Great job proving OP right once again. You don't care about quality. You only care about "WAAAAAH I WANT MY MEGA BRO BACK"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 22:20:15 No.39454205 Report

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>>39454054
>Dynamaxing is better even though I have yet to try it myself and don’t even know the specific details on what it does for every Pokemon

Dynamaxing may look better “on paper” to you, but that doesn’t mean shit until we actually see it in action.

>You don't care about quality. You only care about "WAAAAAH I WANT MY MEGA BRO BACK"

whoa, slow down. you’re going through those strawmans mighty fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 23:03:08 No.39454492 Report

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>>39453122
>sensible_chuckle.gif

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Anonymous Fri 19 Jul 2019 23:08:43 No.39454540 Report

Quoted By: >>39455833 >>39456493 >>39457971

Daily reminder that Dynamax and Gigantamax are just Megas for Dummies and the reason they cut Megas and Z-Moves in the first place is because they are functionally better in every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 01:37:32 No.39455833 Report

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>>39454540
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 03:14:36 No.39456493 Report

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>>39454540
Gotta remove the (somewhat) cooler feature so it doesn't outclass the new one. Get with the times we live in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 07:33:05 No.39457968 Report

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>>39453108
That's actually wrong.
Despite there are people who actually only care about the number of the mons, the truth is that other people actually cares about the quality of the game, amd they just don't feel justified the cut with what we have seen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 07:34:10 No.39457971 Report

Quoted By: >>39457993 >>39458043

>>39454540
Nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 07:40:23 No.39457993 Report

Quoted By: >>39457999

>>39457971
>3 free z-moves that set up entry hazards/weather/terrain
>Strategy
HAH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 07:41:37 No.39457999 Report

Quoted By: >>39458073

>>39457993
Your opponent can do the same thing. So yes, strategy, Megatard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 07:49:45 No.39458038 Report

Quoted By: >>39458042

>>39453180
Maybe its because this is the first main game to come out on a home console (fuck off Let's go) and people actually expected a good game, instead of a barely passable one with 3ds-tier graphics. The Dex culling was the final straw that broke the camel's back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 07:50:59 No.39458042 Report

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>>39458038
>and people actually expected a good game
The existence of all the Pokemon in the game has very little bearing on whether or not the game is good. These same retards would be lapping it up as long as their favorite was in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 07:51:35 No.39458043 Report

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>>39457971
At first I didn't like dynamaxing that much, but this pic seems like it will actually be the case. We even have gigantamaxing to get a little bit of that special partner Pokemon feel that megas have as well. Too bad I'm a brainlet. And also dexit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 07:54:54 No.39458052 Report

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The game is regressing. Why can't you game freak cocksuckers understand this? Pokemon as a franchise is regressing and they will continue to regress as long as they make money off of it. After decades and who knows how many billions of dollars in profit, you'd expect the pokemon games to improve but they don't. The Dex culling is just a symptom of this, as well as the shitty graphics. They continue to stagnate, unlike other Nintendo franchises such as Mario and Link, who are actually improving with each game.
Why is it so wrong to want a good pokemon game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 08:00:35 No.39458073 Report

Quoted By: >>39458098

>>39457999
>and your opponent could never mega when you mega
>or z when you z
>or switch out to remove weather condition
There was "strategy" in either case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 08:06:50 No.39458098 Report

Quoted By: >>39458116

>>39458073
Mega Evolutions don't add any depth to the game. It's the same fucking thing as just using another species of Pokemon. Z-moves are just glorified Elemental Gems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 08:10:03 No.39458116 Report

Quoted By: >>39458119

>>39458098
>and combining the two souless things into one suddenly added depth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jul 2019 08:10:58 No.39458119 Report

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>>39458116
Yes, because it only lasts three turns and isn't item based. So it's an actual new mechanic instead of just a previous mechanic with a fancy name slapped on.

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