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Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 21:10:45 No.39501225 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39501533 >>39501604 >>39502342 >>39502361 >>39502472 >>39504471 >>39504599 >>39505595 >>39506340

Make a Pokémon better competitively.

Machamp:

+10 on Attack
+ 50 on Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 21:37:32 No.39501533 Report

Quoted By: >>39501566 >>39501622 >>39501636 >>39503089 >>39503133 >>39503185 >>39503213 >>39506736

>>39501225
Do you even know the rules of this? You can't add 60 BST randomly, you need to either limit yourself to 30 BST or rearrange existing stats.

Btw it still wouldn't reach OU with those stats. Best way of buffing Machamp is its own ability:
>Flurry Fists: All punching moves are repeated 4 times, each with 0.25 of the original power

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 21:41:05 No.39501566 Report

Quoted By: >>39501609 >>39503089 >>39506228

>>39501533
>+4 atk Power Up Punch
This is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 21:44:21 No.39501604 Report

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>>39501225
This shit is S-tier OU if not Uber

>105 speed backed up with 140 attack AND good bulk, alongside all the other shit Machamp has

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 21:45:07 No.39501609 Report

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>>39501566
your mommas retarded lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 21:45:57 No.39501622 Report

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>>39501533
Also give it mach punch. Conkeldurr get's it which is why Machamp is outclassed by it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 21:47:39 No.39501636 Report

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>>39501533
I said make it better not make it OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 22:10:52 No.39501872 Report

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>>39501604
>Expecting /vp/ to understand game balance.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 22:58:07 No.39502342 Report

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>>39501225
This isn't the way to go. This is just straight up broken. The important key to being viable is if Machamp has a niche only it can do well. It used to be No Guard + Dynamic Punch which made it OU and a popular anti-lead in gen 4. But with the confusion nerf, and tons of new bulky mons or heavy hitters that bring in more damage, this niche has lost its luster. Making him fast all of a sudden doesn't make sense.
>Steadfast
This is essentially useless. Replace it with Stamina, or make it so that any damage received automatically raises speed by 2 stages.
>Dynamic Punch
Still a good offensive move but no longer capable of breaking team strats, especially with confusion nerf. Increase BP to 120 on par with Zap Canon and to compensate confusion nerf.
>Stats
I'm generally not a fan of breaking BST with rival/counterparts so let me just redistribute 40 BST from Sp Atk to +20 Atk and +5 HP +15 Def. Give him a physical variation of Quiver Dance and make it semi exclusive. Let Conkeldurr have priority STAB, recovery and higher Def, but let Machamp have the higher offense, the ability to out-boost, and higher Sp Def so that they could play different roles without simply outclassing the other

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 22:59:19 No.39502361 Report

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>>39501225
>Machamp
>Switch Attack to Special Attack

Ta-da, now you have focus fire burasto no guard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 23:00:37 No.39502368 Report

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nigger

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 23:11:32 No.39502472 Report

Quoted By: >>39502625 >>39506252

>>39501225
Just wanted to do all the starters
>Gen 1
Venusaur learns T-spikes and earth power. Zard gets some bulky put into attack and learns BB and fire slash. Blastoise gets recover, mega is water/steel and mega launcher boost it
>Gen 2
Meganium becomes grass/fairy and gets triage. Typholsion learns earth power and dark pulse
>Gen 3
Sceptile learns T-bolt,Flash canon, and Signal beam. Blaziken learns aura sphere. Swampert learns recover and HA is replaced with mold breaker
>Gen 4
Torterra becomes grass/rock and/or solid rock.Infernape learns aura sphere. Empoleon learns roost and HA is intimidate
>Gen 5
Serp gets shadow ball,psychic, and superpower. Emboar learns bulky up and drain punch.Samourtt learns shell smash and HA is justified
>Gen 6
Chesnaught learns rapid spin.Delphox gets T-bolt and aura sphere and HA becomes magic guard.Greninja learns Knock and JK
>Gen 7
Decidueye has speed and sp.atk swapped and has sniper as a HA.Incineroar gets sucker punch and CC.Primarina learns moonlight and HA becomes serene grace

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 23:26:01 No.39502625 Report

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>>39502472
Almost all of this sounds like shit anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jul 2019 23:56:13 No.39502945 Report

Quoted By: >>39503107

Arceus:
>5 HP
>225 AT
>5 DEF
>225 SP AT
>5 SP DEF
>255 SPD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 00:12:44 No.39503089 Report

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>>39501533
Great idea for an ability. It wouldn't even be broken, just good. Sub-Focus Punch would be fun to try.
>>39501566
It would still require a turn to setup. Machamp is still slow, it'd be vulnerable to burn and its only priority move is Bullet Punch.
It doesn't even get Drain Punch so an Assault Vest set doesn't look impressive.
It'd be a nice buff imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 00:15:22 No.39503107 Report

Quoted By: >>39504491

>>39502945
>Rattata used Quick Attack!
>Arceus fainted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 00:17:40 No.39503133 Report

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>>39501533
anon, in a game where most opponents are KO’d in 2-3 hits (1 hit if you’re unlucky), that sounds stupidly powerful

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 00:20:09 No.39503155 Report

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+100 ATK
+100 SP.ATK
+75 everything else

im,nvry good at banancing, nintendo should hire me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 00:23:07 No.39503181 Report

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>>39503133
>What is 4 * 0.25

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 00:23:30 No.39503185 Report

Quoted By: >>39503213

>>39501533
Oi, fuckface. That was my invented ability to give to LEDIAN which I posted here last week because its attack is shocking, yet has fists and all those punching moves. I trademarked it, and you'll be hearing from my lawyer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 00:26:44 No.39503213 Report

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>>39501533
>>39503185
>ice punch has a higher chance to freeze than scald has to burn
no thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:35:57 No.39504471 Report

Quoted By: >>39504484

>>39501225
>xurkitree
+20 speed, learns sludge bomb, ice beam
>zapdos
-10 atk, -10 def, +15 spdef, +15 spatk, learns heal bell/ safeguard/calm mind
>zeraora
-20 spatk +20 atk, learns shadow claw, u turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:36:51 No.39504484 Report

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>>39504471
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:37:58 No.39504491 Report

Quoted By: >>39504572

>>39503107
Arceus used Extreme Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:46:41 No.39504572 Report

Quoted By: >>39506204

>>39504491
literally anything could beat it with a focus sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:50:22 No.39504599 Report

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>>39501225
Amoonguss

+20 HP
+20 Attack
+70 Sp. Attack
+20 Sp. Defense
+20 Speed

Now learns Earth Power and Ice Beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:53:10 No.39504622 Report

Quoted By: >>39504670

Give Articuno Zapdos' stats and snow warning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:59:09 No.39504670 Report

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>>39504622
>Fast, hard-hitting special attacker with 100% accurate STAB blizzard
No thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 04:21:29 No.39505265 Report

Quoted By: >>39506187

Staraptor

New Ability: Rock Head

+15 Def
+10 Sp.Def

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 05:10:47 No.39505595 Report

Quoted By: >>39506234 >>39506238

>>39501225
Here is a few shitty signature abilities that I’ld like to try fixing.
>Gale Wings
Way overnerfed. Make the ability lose its effect at 50% or less.
>Defeatist
Instead of cutting attack at 50% or less, it should lower attack by one stage every time it is hit by a move.
>Slow Start
This probably won’t make it good but if Slow Start was not reset by switching, it would be tolerable at least.
>Traunt
Being forced to not move every other turn is way too punishing of an ability even if it fits the theme. For theme consistently, it should instead make the Pokémon doze off if it is on the field for 3 turns.

That is all, please tell me how shitty my ideas are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:11:42 No.39506187 Report

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>>39505265
give it +10 speed instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:16:22 No.39506204 Report

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>>39504572
>Implying Arceus wouldn't be holding a focus sash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:23:06 No.39506228 Report

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>>39501566
This actualy would be fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:24:07 No.39506232 Report

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>>39501872
There is no game balance in originals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:25:21 No.39506234 Report

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>>39505595
Gale wings (6GEN) should have been Pidgeot ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:26:22 No.39506238 Report

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>>39505595
Slow start should gratualy rise power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:31:13 No.39506252 Report

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>>39502472
kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:46:41 No.39506301 Report

Quoted By: >>39506766

>Regigigas
>Give it fucking Protect Game Freak, do you really have to go so far out of your way to nerf an already mediocre at best legendary that you can't even let it have the move that literally every other Pokemon in the game can learn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 07:54:13 No.39506340 Report

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>>39501225
Starters rework for the ones that are shit and I think would fit thematically.

>Gen II
Give them Alolan forms and rework them. Otherwise:
Meganium HA becomes Unaware
Feraligatr stays the same
Typhlosion HA Solar Power
>Gen IV
Torterra HA becomes Rock head
>Gen V
Samurott HA Weak Armor
Emboar HA Guts
>Gen VI
Give these fucks MEGA FORMS. The fact that GF prioritized Gen I for Mega evolutions in these starter's gen is fucking unforgivable.
>Gen VII
Primarina gets boom burst
Decidueye switches SpA with Speed

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 09:29:30 No.39506736 Report

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>>39501533
>Every Pokemon needs to have a unique signature ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 09:30:57 No.39506747 Report

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>>39506234
Based. Gale Wings fits Pideot better than Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 09:35:25 No.39506766 Report

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>>39506301
>protect 3 of the 5 slow start turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 09:35:58 No.39506768 Report

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>>39502342
>Let Conkeldurr have priority STAB, recovery and higher Def, but let Machamp have the higher offense, the ability to out-boost, and higher Sp Def so that they could play different roles without simply outclassing the other
Personally, I'd leave Conkeldurr with the higher bulk and Attack, but remove Iron Fist (and replace it with something like Own Tempo) and reduce the amount of moves it can learn (Mach Punch is just unfitting for Conk). With Machamp, I'd give it slightly lower offenses than Conk, but equally as good abilities (Steadfast buff or a new ability altogether), faster speed (around 75-85 base Speed) and better moves (including Mach Punch)
With these changes, they will serve slightly different roles while hopefully being equal to eachother

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