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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:21:51 No.39515712 View View Reply Original Report

You gotta admit, it was a bold design decision Game Freak made when they decided the first new pokemon games after Gen 1 wouldn't include any new pokemon in them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:23:22 No.39515729 Report

Quoted By: >>39515782

>>39515712
The last time I checked there were new pokemon in those games, but all were locked to post game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:23:47 No.39515733 Report

Quoted By: >>39515759 >>39516525 >>39518539

>it's another underagefag who doesn't understand what sequels are and expects every new pokemon to be on the first route

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:25:43 No.39515753 Report

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Is this bait or are people this retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:25:58 No.39515759 Report

Quoted By: >>39515807 >>39515828 >>39515842 >>39515906 >>39517814 >>39518039 >>39518051

>>39515733
how is gold/silver a sequel? just because it has kanto in it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:28:09 No.39515782 Report

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>>39515729
It's like 10 or 11 out of 62 fully evolved new Pokemon that can be only obtained in the postgame, far from all, let alone many. It's a small handful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:31:02 No.39515807 Report

Quoted By: >>39517221

>>39515759
Because the story is pretty connected with Kanto, the relation between 1 and 2 gen is basically black and black 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:32:55 No.39515828 Report

Quoted By: >>39517221

>>39515759
it follows the story after its predecessor and was literally called "pocket monsters 2: gold and silver" well into development

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:33:57 No.39515842 Report

Quoted By: >>39515922 >>39517221

>>39515759
It's literally set in the same timeline.
You meet and battle the old protagonist and antagonist in the main story.
I don't understand how you fail to see the connection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:42:28 No.39515906 Report

Quoted By: >>39517221

>>39515759
It's a whole new game where you use the original 150 in a whole new region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:44:13 No.39515922 Report

Quoted By: >>39515953

>>39515842
thats all it takes for it to be considered a sequel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 02:47:25 No.39515953 Report

Quoted By: >>39517221

>>39515922
I don't really understand what do you think when anyone say "sequel".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 03:22:43 No.39516243 Report

Quoted By: >>39516603

Okay, so if we assume that
>You're playing Gold or Silver, not Crystal, and no real life trading is involved, even with the Time Capsule
>No glitches
>Only Gen II Pokémon pre-League count
You can obtain 71/100 new Pokémon.

Pichu, Cleffa, Murkrow, Misdreavus, Sneasel, Slugma, Magcargo, Houndour, Houndoom, Porygon2, Elekid, Blissey, Larvitar, Pupitar, and Tyranitar are exclusive to after the League.

Two starter lines remain inaccessible
Spinarak, Ariados, Phanpy, Donphan, Gligar, and Mantine are exclusive to Gold while Ledyba, Ledian, Teddiursa, Ursaring, Delibird, and Skarmory are exclusive to Silver
Ho-Oh is exclusive to Gold pre-League and Lugia is exclusive to Silver pre-League
Celebi is completely unavailable.

Now if trading is allowed between all Gen I and II games, but we're still not using glitches, the number of Gen II Pokémon available pre-League potentially becomes 90/100. And if we count Mt. Silver as a Johto location, we can still say Misdreavus, Larvitar, Pupitar, and Tyranitar are Johto Pokémon. The only Gen II Pokémon truly "exclusive to Kanto" are Murkrow, Slugma, Magcargo, Houndour, and Houndoom. Even though an Up-Grade can only be obtained in Kanto, Porygon2 is a trade evolution and therefore has no native region.

But if we're counting Gen I Pokémon, players can obtain more than 210 Pokémon pre-League in Gen II with trading compared to 149 in Gen I with trading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 04:09:04 No.39516525 Report

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>>39515733
>it's the same oldnigger who doesn't understand why bw2 gets so much praise and acts like boomers don't use the word nostalgia to criticize anyone who likes the newer games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 04:23:14 No.39516603 Report

Quoted By: >>39517214

>>39516243
what about the problem of many of those new pokemon having
low encounter rates?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 06:03:14 No.39517214 Report

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>>39516603
That's a problem? Dunsparce may be kinda shit, but that didn't stop me from thinking it was really cool for being so rare. I valued having Pokémon like trade evolutions and friendship evolutions because they felt hard to get and that's what made them special. Or when I found Skarmory and Wobbuffet on my own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 06:04:49 No.39517221 Report

Quoted By: >>39517274 >>39517727 >>39517814

>>39515807
>>39515828
>>39515842
>>39515906
>>39515953
Gen 2 was never a "sequel", it starts in an entirely new region with different starters. wtf are you people smoking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 06:14:56 No.39517274 Report

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>>39517221
It's far more of a sequel than any other games in the series barring B2W2. Nearly every character from Gen I returns with the exception of Giovanni. Team Rocket returns. The game's narrative outright states it takes place 3 years later. You visit the entire region of the previous game. While later games do reference other regions the rare time, their plots are completely unrelated to those regions. Hoenn's story has nothing to do with any other region. Sinnoh's story has nothing to do with any other region. Unova's story has nothing to do with any other region. The events in Johto are tied to the events of Kanto in the previous games. It is a sequel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 06:53:28 No.39517492 Report

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Gold and Silver is pretty much a sequel to the originals. It wasn't until Gen 3 where it was decided that every Gen would be basically a clean break with the exception of mostly isolated remakes.
Gen 2 was made before the template for Pokemon really solidified in Gen 3.
>Gen 2: Most of the Pokemon you see are still the original Gen 1 Pokemon, with new ones sprinkled throughout here and there, new Pokemon are a source of excitement and are used throughout the game (even into the postgame) inspiring players to continue so they can discover more new Pokemon to collect
>Gen 3: New Pokemon will be the majority of the Pokemon in the game, relegating older Pokemon to Gen 2's "exciting find" category rather than being the norm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 07:33:00 No.39517727 Report

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>>39517221
It is completely literally a sequel.
It's happening right after gen 1, references and uses gen 1 characters, you even get to fight the gym leaders again including Gary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 07:48:01 No.39517814 Report

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>>39515759
>>39517221
Events in G/S/C are stated to pick up 5 years after the end of R/B/G. You meet the old characters and fight the old protagonist, as well as put a proper end to the Evil Team from the previous game that were trying to make a second comeback. Where the game starts is irrelevant - characters directly mention events that happened in the previous games, and you end up backtracking into the original areas anyway. It's very obviously a sequel, and was outright called 'Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver' while in development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 08:34:19 No.39518039 Report

Quoted By: >>39518063

>>39515759
Because it was supposed to be the last one and basically is a sequel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 08:36:14 No.39518051 Report

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>>39515759
you can time travel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 08:40:23 No.39518063 Report

Quoted By: >>39518131

>>39518039
>last one
when was this ever stated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 08:43:38 No.39518069 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 09:06:48 No.39518131 Report

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>>39518063
U know pokemon almost didn’t happen to begin with u think back during gen 2 that it would turn out liek this?
https://m.ranker.com/list/video-games-that-were-almost-never-made/nathan-gibson

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Trypp F'haag !!bZFPoDj7jq3 Fri 26 Jul 2019 10:56:43 No.39518495 Report

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>won't include any new Pokémon
Fuck this meme.
All 100 new Pokémon are obtainable in-game in GS, except Celebi, which is still obtainable with events/hacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 11:04:09 No.39518522 Report

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>>39515712
>Relying on the same old gen 1 that everyone on earth fell in love with instead of risking alienating your new gargantuan playerbase by replacing them with new Pokemon they might not fall in love with is bold

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 11:08:19 No.39518539 Report

Quoted By: >>39518655 >>39520440

>>39515733
This post is needlessly pedantic and you're a faggot for reposting it literally every time gen 2 gets mentioned.
Obviously there's a massive difference between the normally useless third version being a sequel and a new generation being a sequel. People who say otherwise are just looking for any excuse to shit on people who like B2W2 (which seems unnecessary when you can just say its faults).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 11:46:05 No.39518655 Report

Quoted By: >>39520222 >>39520267

>>39518539
I think B2W2 are great games, but kids defending them over Gen II need to be put in their place, since they don't realize how great those games were in their historical context.
People here pretend to not know what a sequel is and how satisfying Gold/Silver were from that standpoint.
Without the nostalgia goggles, B2W2 is even more polished and enjoyable per se; it adjusts the flaws in BW that Crystal didn't address for its generation, variety and smoothness, and of course not adding 100 pokèmon every game is another asset when you already have 600.
Still Gold and Silver are a clusterfuck of awesomeness, plain and simple.
Games from an era without manuals, solo sweep with Scratch Gator, never capture Magnemite since you'd need friends to evolve him by trading, train all the Unown to level 100 to unlock the secret dungeon in Ruins of Alph, and all the crazyness and dumbness before meeting your character from the previous, awe inspiring title.
It's not they don't make them like this anymore, they can't make them like this anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 15:58:42 No.39520222 Report

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>>39518655
They could, if they wanted to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 16:06:07 No.39520267 Report

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>>39518655
I had the same experience with Diamond and Pearl. My friend got to Turnback Cave before I did and we both wondered what the fuck Giratina was; we used each others' DSs to trade the Manaphy egg from Ranger and considered it a big deal; we shit ourselves when the piano kicked in before Cynthia and all that. While a lot of kids have tablets and phones now, it's not inconceivable that most will go into Sword and Shield like you went into GSC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 16:32:24 No.39520440 Report

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>>39518539
B2W2's faults is that it's still Gen 5 and still Unova. I'm not looking to start a whole shitflinging war over hating Gen 5 or not; everyone has their opinions, even if I think some are wrong. The fact that they released a new plot and altered game over a simple enhanced version is neat, I won't deny it, but the basic premise they started from fucking sucked and the upgrade on those sequels doesn't justify Unovafags shitting on Gen 2 which, objectively, added a lot more on top of their prequels. Different approaches, sure, but for those that claim that a sequel is better the more new stuff they add, GSC is clearly ahead of B2W2.

tl;dr Gen 5 bad, Gen 2 is "sequelier".

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