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Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:53:14 No.39560465 View View Reply Original Report

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Ughh patternfags are the worst just fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:54:33 No.39560484 Report

Quoted By: >>39560527

>>39560465
It all makes sense though retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:56:08 No.39560496 Report

Quoted By: >>39560527 >>39560528 >>39561371 >>39564158

GF litterally confirmed the "cool, cute/pretty, tough" thing in a recent interview, to be fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:56:54 No.39560503 Report

Quoted By: >>39560522

>>39560465
The Zodiacs one is the only one that actually holds up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:57:32 No.39560512 Report

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>>39560465
>weapons
No its amphibious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:57:35 No.39560513 Report

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Am I the only one bugged by the fact that the gen 5 starters are clearly based on historical empires/kingdoms, with France, Japan, then Chin; when China is so culturally and Geographically close to Japan already?

Should have been like France, Japan, and Aztecs or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:58:05 No.39560522 Report

Quoted By: >>39560548 >>39563585 >>39564201 >>39566890

>>39560503
>mouse = badger shrew
>dog = fox

ok retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:58:59 No.39560527 Report

Quoted By: >>39560603 >>39563811

>>39560496
No they didn't. They said starters have more defined personalities. Sobble was the example they used, and it's definitely not any of those things (which aren't personalities btw)

>>39560484
Weapons makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 18:59:07 No.39560528 Report

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>>39560496
no they didnt faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:02:08 No.39560548 Report

Quoted By: >>39560744

>>39560522
you shut the fuck up asshole the zodiac has never been proven wrong. A shrew can be considered a mouse and a dog can be considered a fox idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:04:27 No.39560573 Report

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>>39560465
Based JoeMerrikChad here patterns make sense if you had a brain which you don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:08:21 No.39560603 Report

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>>39560527
shut the fuck up

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Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:22:21 No.39560744 Report

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>>39560548

>two different animals can be considered the same animal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:35:47 No.39560843 Report

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>>39560744
fucking faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:39:23 No.39560867 Report

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>napoleon is a myth
for real?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:40:24 No.39560880 Report

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>>39560465
the only one i buy is the chinese zodiac but even then i don't think they planned it. I think it happened by accident and then they went with it. (maybe gen 4 or 5).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:47:48 No.39560947 Report

Quoted By: >>39561025

>>39560880
Blaziken, Infernape, and Emboar are all partially based on characters from a Chinese legend featuring the Chinese Zodiac animals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:57:20 No.39561025 Report

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>>39560947
no dip moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 19:58:09 No.39561032 Report

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>>39560465
We need another fire reptile, I hope they do the snake next. Too many fire mammals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 20:00:52 No.39561055 Report

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>>39561032
Lol patternfag over here DenialChads let him have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 20:37:41 No.39561371 Report

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>>39560496
Sinnoh starters are just tough, tough, and tough though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 20:46:26 No.39561470 Report

Quoted By: >>39561477

>>39560465
>Gen 1 is already confirmed tp be backyard animals
>Water starters are semi-aquatic until sobble fucked it up
I want them to quit this human shit first we had Empires in gen 5but they weren't as in your face,than JRPGs in gen 6,hobbies in gen 7, and now jobs in gen 8. Can we get like legends or even just elemental monsters at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 20:47:07 No.39561477 Report

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>>39561470
there was never patterns you fucking faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 21:08:06 No.39561666 Report

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>>39560744
>what are animal kingdoms

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 21:20:15 No.39561786 Report

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>>39561666
When did the zodiac ever say about animal kingdoms? A stretch is a stretch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 21:21:37 No.39561805 Report

Quoted By: >>39562359

Stop making this thread you boring fucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 21:23:38 No.39561823 Report

Quoted By: >>39561838 >>39563503

>>39561786
when were the chinese ever not a race of retarded shing-chang-bao subhumans

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 21:24:32 No.39561836 Report

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>>39561371
Cool Chimchar
Pretty/cute Piplup
Tough Turtwig
The end result isn't the same, but the starters ARE in that pattern to be fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 21:24:36 No.39561838 Report

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>>39561823
when it lines up with the delusion of patternfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 21:57:21 No.39562138 Report

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>>39560465
Somebody mark the ones that don't fit. Owls are not ancient creatures.

IIRC though the one about the Gen 5 starters being countries was stated in an interview.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 22:00:09 No.39562173 Report

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>>39560465
We need the cow starter to be Sha Wujing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 22:02:53 No.39562198 Report

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>>39560465
Ah yes how could we forget the prehistoric owls and snakes i mean duh

Plus swampert and feraligatr clearly have weapon motifs, don't forget primarina!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jul 2019 22:21:01 No.39562359 Report

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>>39561805
we can make this thread as much as we want faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 00:32:27 No.39563439 Report

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>>39560465
>weapons

Lul wot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 00:38:47 No.39563494 Report

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>>39560465
What does unique evolution mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 00:40:11 No.39563503 Report

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>>39561823
Tang dynasty

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Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 00:47:16 No.39563540 Report

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>>39560744

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Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 00:53:23 No.39563585 Report

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>>39560522

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Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 00:59:03 No.39563611 Report

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>>39560880
They were using it in Gen I and II for general pokémon design inspiration anon. It's no stretch to think they started basing fire starters off it for Gen III's production.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 01:25:09 No.39563811 Report

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>>39560527
>Weapons makes no sense.
That's true. The pattern with water starters is that none of them are fully aquatic.
None of them are fish, cephalopods, or mollusks.
It's always something that can also hang out on land.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 01:33:03 No.39563876 Report

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>>39563585
faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 01:48:36 No.39563985 Report

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>>39560465
>Unique Evolution
what the fuck does this even mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 02:16:42 No.39564158 Report

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>>39560496
no, it was cool, serious, and silly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 02:22:17 No.39564201 Report

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>>39560522
The ancient chinese weren't this autistic about taxonomy, and neither are gamefreak, so go eat lead you spastic big nosed kike freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 05:28:08 No.39565258 Report

Quoted By: >>39565304

>>39560465
>prehistoric animal
>owl
nigga what

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 05:37:26 No.39565304 Report

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>>39565258
Ornimegalonyx

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 05:58:51 No.39565388 Report

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>>39560465
>Ughh patternfags are the worst just fuck off.
I know, right? Good thing you made a thread about it that's surely going to be filled with nothing but staunch patternfags power-shilling their theories, huh?

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Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 09:23:19 No.39566015 Report

Quoted By: >>39566570

Unrelated picture of my dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 10:34:34 No.39566203 Report

Quoted By: >>39566367 >>39566570

>>39561666
Regardless of whether someone believes in the Zodiac theory, there are two major fuck-ups here.
1. There is no such thing as animal kingdoms. There are just the kingdoms of life, which Animalia is one kingdom of.
2. Even if you're talking about "orders" or "families", shrews/echidnas, weasels, and badgers are not in the fucking Rodentia order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 11:12:47 No.39566367 Report

Quoted By: >>39566570

>>39566203
That and you can't use the "Foxes are Canidae so it counts!" argument considering the Ox and Sheep are both Bovidae but considered distinct by the Zodiac and in the extended lore, Tigers and Cats as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 11:18:27 No.39566399 Report

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>Napoleon is a myth

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 11:49:35 No.39566570 Report

Quoted By: >>39566653 >>39566861

>>39566203
>>39566367
>"Whaaaaa, I'm autistic and will only accept EXACT copies of the zodiac animals"
>"despite the fire starters being in some way inspired by the creatures"
>>39566015
Remember how they removed the Fire Bear for the Mouse to actually fit the zodiac pattern anon? Or are you admitting you're a filthy hoennbab already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 12:05:43 No.39566653 Report

Quoted By: >>39566763 >>39567093 >>39567106

>>39566570
If you're really trying to stan an Echidna as a mouse, I've lost all hope for you anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 12:25:44 No.39566763 Report

Quoted By: >>39566863

>>39566653
They're all called "Nezumi" in Japan anon. If you're still applying Western ideals to an inherently Japanese-influenced series or its philosophies, there's no hope anon. I know an echidna and a mouse or rat aren't alike, know the differences between dog and fox. Yet these games weren't made down the road in Ireland from me, they were made half a world and an entire different culture to me away. And that culture is perfectly fine with if they say a rodent-like creature works for their series or not. the fact there's 6 that fit perfectly show this is more than just a fanon creation, especially with Morimoto confirming they were using the Zodiac as design inspiration in Gen I and II.
End of the day it's boiling down to you being too autistic and needing to see EXACT copies of the Zodiac as esoteric things like inspiration and concepts seem to elude you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 12:27:37 No.39566775 Report

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>>39561371
Sinnoh is
Infernape - Cute/Waifu
Torterra - Tough
Empoleon - Cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 12:45:01 No.39566861 Report

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>>39566570
>Whaaaaa, I'm autistic and will only accept EXACT copies of the zodiac animals
The post I responded to didn't ask for people to accept them as exact copies, it asked for people to accept them as being of the same "kingdom"/order/family which was outright wrong on Cyndaquil's part. Now you're going to cry because someone calls you out on being ignorant on what you're trying to argue when you were clearly trying to be a smartass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 12:45:21 No.39566863 Report

Quoted By: >>39566957

>>39566763
You can't just blame old naming conventions and call that justification. They didn't have the information we do now but weren't about to upset years of history; it's the same reason the Maned Wolf is still called such despite biologists realizing it's nothing close to true wolves.

Grey area is not an excuse to be retarded and make reaches this hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 12:46:39 No.39566872 Report

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>>39560465
Very real question, why does it bother you so much? Lol. Not even someone who believes and/or cares about patterns but what's the big deal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 12:48:50 No.39566890 Report

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>>39560522
>mouse + badger shrew = rodents
>dog + fox = canines

So you think make-believe magical animals have to be exactly 1 to 1 with thing they're based on, ok retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 12:51:36 No.39566906 Report

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>>39560744
>I don't know what the fuck a genus is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:01:12 No.39566957 Report

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>>39566863
Good job completely dodging the point that you clearly don't understand what "inspired by" or "based on" entail you fucking autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:33:07 No.39567093 Report

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>>39566653
Yh they just randomly decided to make a fire chicken,rabbit and pig. Next they'll randomly makea fire goat and that will be just another coincidence right?

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Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:38:14 No.39567106 Report

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>>39566653

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:44:55 No.39567139 Report

Quoted By: >>39567165 >>39569892

>>39567106
A mouse isnt a rat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:48:02 No.39567155 Report

Quoted By: >>39567172

>>39567106
>Blastoise is a shellfish
>Weedle is hairy
>Sandslash, a clear hedgehog, is a mouse
>Nidoqueen and Nidoking are the Drill Pokemon despite having none
>Gloom, an obvious rafflesia, is a weed

I can keep going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:50:14 No.39567165 Report

Quoted By: >>39567269

>>39567139
Sure but they are close enough. Does Charizard not count because he's a Western Dragon and not and Eastern Dragon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:52:12 No.39567172 Report

Quoted By: >>39567177

>>39567155
You don't need to keep going if you're gonna be retarded about it. The point I'm trying to make is that relating a rat to a mouse is barely a reach, especially when you look at how closely related the other fire pokes are to their zodiac counterparts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:54:16 No.39567177 Report

Quoted By: >>39567211

>>39567172
Cyndaquil is a fucking echidna from the head shape and the fact that its fire motif directly comes from the species' quills. The reach you're asking for is suspension of fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 13:54:24 No.39567179 Report

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>genetics
I dun geddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 14:02:12 No.39567211 Report

Quoted By: >>39567220

>>39567177
You guys lol
We could literally get a Donkey, Snake, Ram and a Bison and you would still deny the zodiac theme cus a Donkey and a horse aren't the same thing or a Ram and a goat are different animals. It's close enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 14:04:42 No.39567220 Report

Quoted By: >>39567277

>>39567211
if we got a donkey instead of a horse I would absolutely abandon the zodiac idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 14:11:56 No.39567269 Report

Quoted By: >>39567286

>>39567165
No because western dragons and eastern dragons are still dragons. Its like the difference between a retriever and a bulldog. But if they wanted to make a RAT pokemon why would they instead make a MOUSE? It makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 14:13:44 No.39567277 Report

Quoted By: >>39567511

>>39567220
Look at how neatly everything else fits though, just because a few pokes don't fit perfectly is no reason to abandon the whole idea. Literally all I'm asking is for them to make a fire ostrich or a fire spider or some shit. We literally have fish turning into an octupus and a sheep turning into whatever ampharos is and you can't relate a donkey to a horse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 14:15:16 No.39567286 Report

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>>39567269
A western dragon is more distantly related to an eastern dragon than a mouse is to a rat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 14:48:33 No.39567511 Report

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>>39567277
>two [arguably 3] of 8 disprove the pattern
>neatly fit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 16:40:24 No.39568212 Report

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>>39561666
>a dog can be considered a fox
What he said is still retarded though. A dog is a canine, a fox is a canine, but that doesn't mean you can call a dog a fox.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 20:33:39 No.39569892 Report

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>>39567139
Holy shit nobody actually cares about the distinction between them you autistic boring fuck
I bet you unironically do pic related 24/7

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