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Are the new games too easy

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 22:39:06 No.39570910 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39571069 >>39571111 >>39571197 >>39571276 >>39571342

Or are we just grown?
>Play GS
>easy
>sweep entire game with Cyndaquil line
>literally mindless button mashing
>dont want to grind for hours to have a balanced team, doesnt matter

Games with exp share are much more enjoyable
>Play XY
>also easy
>still more fun because no more mindless grinding
>have fun making a team that i like without forcing myself to grind hours on end
>i enjoy the game more
I think you guys are mistaking tedious grinding for difficulty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 22:50:52 No.39570989 Report

Quoted By: >>39571641

And even if the gym levels are a bit higher in the older games, that doesn't make it "difficult" it makes the grind longer. And grinds aren't difficult anyway, there's no challenge in it, it's just a waste of time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:01:10 No.39571069 Report

Quoted By: >>39571105 >>39571143 >>39571298

>>39570910
They are now and have never been hard though S/M/US/UM are the most difficult ones.

And yes, they do make that retarded mistake of thinking grinding = hard. Honestly, this is one of the reasons shit like troll levels in the Mario Maker games or hacks based on it are shit - nothing about what they do is hard, they're just strict which makes them tedious.

One of the reason X/Y is so goddamned good (despite being half-assed) was definitely that change to Exp. Share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:07:14 No.39571105 Report

Quoted By: >>39571151 >>39571541

>>39571069
I agree, but gen 7 being the hardest of all gens? Eh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:08:03 No.39571111 Report

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>>39570910
Could be that we’re grown and also the ease of the exp share since Gen 6. I recently played Crystal on the 3ds and seems like it is much more time consuming training a team. I remember when I was playing gens 1-3 around like 8 or 9 and literally had no idea where to go. The handholding problem that everyone is bitching about was probably made for that age group and just being introduced to the video games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:13:03 No.39571143 Report

Quoted By: >>39571234

>>39571069
Steamrolling everything you fight isn't fun. And even if you do turn it off, you'll also have to ignore Pokemon-Amie and Megas if you want any semblance of challenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:14:17 No.39571151 Report

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>>39571105
USUM are actually on the more diffivult side of Pokemon games. Again it's Pokemon so it's not actually hard in the slightest, but still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:21:09 No.39571197 Report

Quoted By: >>39571262

>>39570910
Bullshit. I just finished Crystal Version and it's leagues more difficult than XY, ORAS, or SM. I was consistently 5 levels under every gym leader even with some grinding and almost died many times. You had less Pokémon options, minimal move pool, TMs had to be taught sparingly and carefully, and many slots were filled with shitty HM moves. Not saying the old games were "hard", but they had a basic semblance of challenge. Now you can EV and IV train Pokémon early on, teach any TM to as many Pokémon as you'd like, you have exp. all, way more Pokémon to choose from, many trainers have moves removed/fewer Pokémon, etc. If you swept anything with the Cyndaquil line, you just over leveled the guy; yeah no shit, you can do that in any RPG.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:26:22 No.39571234 Report

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>>39571143
You steamroll everything you encounter in the older games as well. You can sweep every game with a starter, catching and raising pokes is literally obsolete and pointless as all you do is waste time grinding them. If you do that you're literally playing the game badly to have a challenge, and games are supposed to naturally flow well and keep you engaged. Newer games excel at this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:32:57 No.39571262 Report

Quoted By: >>39571299

>>39571197
>consistently 5 levels under every gym leader
I was ahead by 5 for most. Swept game with a typhlosion and heal slaves. Didnt bother with postgame, realized it would be the same mindless button mashing with the same pokemon. Games like x/y let you build a team without the tedious bullshit. Once again, its not more difficult, just more time consuming

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:35:53 No.39571276 Report

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>>39570910
>>still more fun because no more mindless grinding
I like XY but this is simply retarded.
Though yes, the franchise would really need a hard mode, level cap, or something to balance everything and make good teambuilding rewarding. That's why i prefer fangames these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:38:33 No.39571298 Report

Quoted By: >>39571541

>>39571069
>S/M/US/UM are the most difficult ones.
What? Fuck no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:38:34 No.39571299 Report

Quoted By: >>39571368

>>39571262
Because you leveled the same one guy, dude. You can do that in every game and it's even easier to do in the newer ones. DON'T over level one guy, instead build a team, and you'll see how the game becomes what it's supposed to be: a game where you catch and raise different Pokémon and then battle with them. Build a team of six and only grind a little bit. If you're not under leveled and backed to the point where you have to strategize and build a decent team, then I don't know what game you're playing.

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Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:45:15 No.39571342 Report

Quoted By: >>39571381 >>39571413

>>39570910
>Are the new games too easy
>Was born in 81
>Where difficulty went suddenly from being unable to lose to Nintenhard

Yep. With few exceptions like Dark Souls all games now a days are fucking easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:49:17 No.39571368 Report

Quoted By: >>39571515

>>39571299
>making a team makes the game more difficult
>makes it take longer as you have to grind, mindlessly walking in grass to fuck up some stupid pokemon 10 levels under you
Why? Why would i make a team when it takes me hours to grind just to get it leveled up enough to pass the next gym when i could be 4 gyms ahead already? I WANT to make cool teams, and i WANT to have variety, but grinding does NOT make the games difficult, just tedious. The elimination of the grind is why i love Kalos so much, because i can actually get engaged with the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:51:13 No.39571381 Report

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>>39571342
Pokemon games have never been hard to begin with, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 31 Jul 2019 23:57:09 No.39571413 Report

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>>39571342
Dark souls isn't even hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:12:48 No.39571515 Report

Quoted By: >>39571522

>>39571368
So DON'T GRIND. STRATEGIZE. You're asking me why have a difficult game when you can cheese it to make it easy; fine, take your easy game. I prefer to have a mildly challenging game where I have to think a little bit than just grinding all day and winning easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:14:22 No.39571522 Report

Quoted By: >>39571666

>>39571515
>playing the game in an obsolete way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:16:57 No.39571541 Report

Quoted By: >>39571549

>>39571105
>>39571298
>2v1 Totems, with stats boost and coverage moves
>important trainer with perfects IVs and EVs
USUM is definettly the hardest mainline Pokémon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:17:59 No.39571549 Report

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>>39571541
definitely*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:21:12 No.39571560 Report

Quoted By: >>39571587 >>39571598 >>39571620 >>39571624

Gen I is the hardest. XY/ORAS and LGPE are ridiculously easy.

In order: 1 > 2 = 3 = 4 > 5 > SMUSUM > 6 > LGPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:24:57 No.39571587 Report

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>>39571560
>Gen 1
>Hard
Anon Brock doesn't count as an entire game.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:27:22 No.39571598 Report

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>>39571560
Die boomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:30:06 No.39571620 Report

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>>39571560
t. retard who plays with exp share on and switch mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:30:53 No.39571624 Report

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>>39571560
Still harder than gen 5 desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:32:47 No.39571633 Report

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>pokemon is too easy!!1!!11!
t.shift battle style only autist
yea no shit, being able to change your pokemon when you defeat someone and knowing what pokemon they're gonna use next makes the game too easy who would have thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:35:14 No.39571641 Report

Quoted By: >>39571671

>>39570989
Then RPGs as a genre shouldn't even exist.
I mean, there is no challenge in just pressing buttons in turns to watch numbers get bigger, so lets just erase it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:38:49 No.39571666 Report

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>>39571522
Whatever, man. Play however you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Aug 2019 00:39:18 No.39571671 Report

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>>39571641
There are ways to make games harder. Level caps. The amount of grinding has no correlation with difficulty

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