>>39698068OP picture is at Valley Windworks, the midpoint between the first and second badges. The average level there is about 16 - 19, reaching 20 if you deliberately over-level or grind your whole team.
Sometimes I think the reason these fights make it to meme status are because OP goes into it expecting a walkover with a 2-'mon team when it's normally meant for a 4/5-'mon team from the early routes (expected behavior for new players) or a returning player who remembers that Growl and Intimidate exist. Although, in a straight comparison, I do think this fight is slightly harder than Whitney's, since you have no Pokemon that can affect accuracy at that point in the game and Faint Attack renders it moot, anyways.
I do wonder how Nuzlockers usually handle such fights, though.
>>39698147The Sinnoh'dex in DP was particularly stupid in its options. For a generation that introduced crossgen evolutions, IIRC just 5 out of 10 evolved further (Roserade/Weavile/Honchkrow/Mismagius/Ambipom) and you had only Mismagius or Honchkrow depending on version, the other 5 were Baby Pokemon additions (Mime Jr./Bonsly/Happiny/Munchlax/Mantyke), and a whooping 16 were locked to post-E4 until the Platinum expansion (Togekiss/Tangrowth/Gallade/Rhyperior/Electrivire/Magmortar/Frolass/Leafeon/Glaceon/Probopass/Magnezone/Yanmega/Lickilicky/Gliscor/Porygon-Z/Mamoswine). Fucking mystery of the decade, this one.
