/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #39745235

[36 / 6 / ?]

2MiB, 1024x1765, muh patterns.png

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO

Change my mind

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 15:43:09 No.39745235 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39745275 >>39745499 >>39745693 >>39747160 >>39748110 >>39748498

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 15:50:13 No.39745275 Report

Quoted By: >>39745320 >>39746040 >>39746093 >>39748192

>>39745235
>generic owl
>"it's this specific ancient owl!"
>generic snake
>"it's this specific ancient snake!"
>generic ape
>"it's this specific extinct ape!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 15:57:03 No.39745320 Report

Quoted By: >>39745677 >>39746054

>>39745275
The Serperior line being ancient snakes actually makes sense because they have limbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 16:19:07 No.39745499 Report

Quoted By: >>39746126 >>39750025

>>39745235
Unova literally is empires though, that was confirmed in an interview.

>Sugimori: “Then we do another division of roles for the evolved forms. This time around — because the Unova region has a racially diverse human population — we decided to make the starter Pokémon’s evolutions symbolize the cultures of Japan, the West, and China. Snivy’s final evolution, Serperior, was designed with the concept of a European knight in mind, kind of like Lady Oscar from The Rose of Versailles. Tepig’s final evolution, Emboar, stands up on two legs and becomes humanoid, so we imagined him as Zhang Fei from the Chinese Romance of the Three Kingdoms. After we decided on the Fire and Grass types, we still had to decide on Oshawott’s evolutions — so we made them into Japanese Samurai. When we came up with the idea that Dewott can remove the shell from his stomach and use it as a weapon, we felt we’d succeeded in making him a Samurai.”

Serperior = The West
Emboar = China
Samurott = Japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 16:43:38 No.39745677 Report

Quoted By: >>39745757 >>39745766 >>39745978 >>39746231

>>39745320
Except the legged-snake fossil that hinted on how legged reptiles lost their limbs to evolve into the snakes we know today was only publicly revealed AFTER gen V came out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 16:45:40 No.39745693 Report

Quoted By:

>>39745235
Congrats, this "job" pattern brought the pattern retardism to a new low. It's an achievement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 16:52:41 No.39745757 Report

Quoted By:

>>39745677
It's not that difficult to guess that snakes used to have legs. Hell even the Bible says that snakes lost legs in the Garden of Eden. If people could make that assumption over 2000 years ago why can't GameFreak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 16:53:38 No.39745766 Report

Quoted By:

>>39745677
it's been a theory since long ago you retardo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 17:14:48 No.39745978 Report

Quoted By: >>39746036

>>39745677
Except we've known snakes used to have legs for forever
A decent number of snakes even have the vestigial bones still

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 4331254_orig[1].jpg_w=640.jpg, 68KiB, 535x241

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 17:20:35 No.39746036 Report

Quoted By: >>39747096

>>39745978
same for dolphins

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 17:21:04 No.39746040 Report

Quoted By:

>>39745275
This. Most animals have a known fossil ancestor. So arbitrarily saying it's the extinct animal is stupid. You can do that with nearly every animal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 17:22:09 No.39746054 Report

Quoted By:

>>39745320
One actually fits so the same apply to the rest!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 17:25:11 No.39746093 Report

Quoted By: >>39748013

>>39745275
>generic hedgehog
>"it's this specific ancient hedgehog"
>generic vaguely froglike monster not explicitly based on any one animal like many gen 1 designs
>"it's this specific ancient frog"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 17:28:14 No.39746126 Report

Quoted By: >>39750025

>>39745499
Was this translated right? Oshawott carried a shell on it’s stomach, not the evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 17:38:24 No.39746231 Report

Quoted By: >>39747062

>>39745677
Except ALL tetrapods had four limbs for at least some time. That's why they're called tetrapods. If the first tetrapod that gave origin to all others had four limbs, that means all of its descendants had four limbs at some point, and some lost them because it was better for an specific niche. That's basic biology, you don't have to be a paleontologist to know this, the average Joe you find walking down the street should be able to tell this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 18:47:12 No.39747062 Report

Quoted By: >>39752159

>>39746231
>the average Joe you find walking down the street should be able to tell this.
Unless they're American

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 18:50:07 No.39747096 Report

Quoted By: >>39747151

>>39746036
wait, there aren't any dolphins with 4 flippers, are there?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1-s2.0-S0044523111000477-gr1.jpg, 48KiB, 565x314

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 18:53:30 No.39747151 Report

Quoted By: >>39747670

>>39747096
They have them as embryos and then they get reabsorbed into the body. Only a single vestigial bone remains through adulthood. Dunno what is going on in that picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 18:53:54 No.39747160 Report

Quoted By: >>39747702

>>39745235
This is just sad. Did water types just jump ship from weapons to job professions just to define find consist pattern? How is swampert a fisherman?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO atavism-1.jpg, 11KiB, 200x300

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 19:42:44 No.39747670 Report

Quoted By:

>>39747151
is rare, but is real

similar to humans with vestigial tail

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 19:45:55 No.39747702 Report

Quoted By: >>39747839

>>39747160
>How is swampert a fisherman?

How is feraligtr a weapon?
How is sobble a semiaquatic animal?

all patterns are BS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 20:00:27 No.39747839 Report

Quoted By: >>39752190

>>39747702
Oh i know. The weapon pattern never made sense to begin with for water types. Grass will always be prehistoric because starters are based off on animals and their species existed in prehistoric time. If GF want's to continue with the zoodiac pattern fine, but I'm waiting for the starter that throws it off just so this discussion can end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 20:15:47 No.39748013 Report

Quoted By:

>>39746093
>>"it's this specific ancient hedgehog"
Glyptodon wasn’t even a hedgehog, it was an armadillo relative (though chesnaught clearly is meant to be based on a Glyptodon if you ask me.)

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 20190813_234742.png, 25KiB, 181x140

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 20:23:02 No.39748110 Report

Quoted By:

>>39745235
THE
WATER
STARTERS
ARE
AMPHIBIOUS
STOP
SAYING
OTHERWISE
AAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 20:29:10 No.39748192 Report

Quoted By:

>>39745275
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 20:57:37 No.39748498 Report

Quoted By:

>>39745235
so, uh, here are my main questions:
>how is feraligatr...that?
>how does gen 2 represent traditions?
>how does gen 3 represent niches? (let's ignore that swampert isn't a fisherman)
>what myth does empoleon represent?
also, charizard is not a dragon, typhlosion is not a mouse, and delphox is -definitely- not a dog.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1566163666034[1].png, 43KiB, 1005x523

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 21:48:15 No.39748962 Report

Quoted By:

Galar starters fit pretty well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 22:02:23 No.39749112 Report

Quoted By:

>anti zodiacfags making false equivalencies again
you fuckers are still gonna be in denial when we get on ox fire starter for gen 10, aren't you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Aug 2019 23:56:11 No.39750025 Report

Quoted By: >>39750315 >>39750365

>>39745499
>>39746126
I've always thought this was dumb, why would you set up an east vs west dichochemty and then use two eastern civilizations?

should have been East vs West vs The Americas

Keep Samuwott and Serpeior, but make Emboar a flaming jaguar with aztec shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Aug 2019 00:35:39 No.39750315 Report

Quoted By:

>>39750025
but then it wouldn't match the zodiac theme trainers cling to for fire starters. Your idea would have been good but GF is known to making poor choices

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Aug 2019 00:45:46 No.39750365 Report

Quoted By:

>>39750025
The Japanese know that "the Americas" are just India. The western hemisphere isn't real, and neither is sub-saharan Africa for that matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Aug 2019 05:24:22 No.39752111 Report

Quoted By:

bumperina

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Aug 2019 05:32:16 No.39752159 Report

Quoted By:

>>39747062
Rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Aug 2019 05:38:00 No.39752190 Report

Quoted By: >>39752217

>>39747839
>I'm waiting for the starter that throws it off just so this discussion can end.
Been listening to that shit for 9 solid years. Still waiting for it to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Aug 2019 05:42:10 No.39752217 Report

Quoted By: >>39752230

>>39752190
I hope it's the very last one so your hivemind all start crying and trying to make justifications

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Aug 2019 05:44:13 No.39752230 Report

Quoted By:

>>39752217
Except they'll stick the landing. Remeber, Tagiri was the one who started this shit and he's somewhere on the spectrum. No way he's letting 11 Gens pass only to break the cycle on the 12th. It'd hurt him worse than anyone.

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches

Change my mind