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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:29:00 No.39784000 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39784018 >>39784066 >>39784112 >>39785333

>You don't work in game dev, so your experience with 3D modeling programs is irrelevant, you armchair game dev
>My credentials? I don't have any. I haven't so much as touched even Blender at any point in my life. Just take my word for it bro, you're wrong because Gayme Fuck said so.
If they had reasons for the cuts, why aren't they in pic related?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:30:14 No.39784009 Report

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Haha I don't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:31:36 No.39784018 Report

Quoted By: >>39784031

>>39784000
Because they don't have to give you any further explanation. They gave their reasons when they announced it at E3. Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:34:30 No.39784031 Report

Quoted By: >>39784047 >>39784056

>>39784018
People are going to be mad until they fix it. Seethe and dilate.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:36:42 No.39784047 Report

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>>39784031
>says the seether, who knows deep down they're not fixing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:38:37 No.39784056 Report

Quoted By: >>39784089

>>39784031
>Implying (((they))) will fix it, while they literally caused it so that they could sell full price glorified DLC versions by making the national dex exclusive to them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:40:29 No.39784066 Report

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>>39784000
>”Gayme Fuck”
Kill yourself

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:44:16 No.39784089 Report

Quoted By: >>39784195

>>39784056
>Tfw they make a nat dex for ultra Swooshit
>Make it a real big deal
>instead of 450 mons we now get 500 exact, all more shitmons
>"National Dex returned look you big babies! Aren't you happy It's back finally?"
I can see this happening and im angry about this being what i think about for pokemon now

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:48:44 No.39784112 Report

Quoted By: >>39784143 >>39784158 >>39784219

>>39784000
Maybe I would agree if most of this board's knowledge about programming wasn't fucking embarrassing.
>omg dey must have put in da 300 lillie for no reason gamefrak so incomptant!
>omg da model loads in at the same time as the cloud so dey must have made a separate dynamax model for each cloud!
>omg the models are the same btw I dont know the basic definition of what a model is because I learned it from someone on /vp/

>If they had reasons for the cuts, why aren't they in pic related?
Because your "pic related" was only made to clarify that a Pokemon not being in Sword/Shield doesn't mean it's deleted from the franchise because a lot of idiots unironically thought this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:55:20 No.39784143 Report

Quoted By: >>39784152

>>39784112
>>omg the models are the same btw I dont know the basic definition of what a model is because I learned it from someone on /vp/
Oh so you're that fucking pedant who bitches that people don't include the texture part of a model when they say "model" even though it's painfully fucking obvious to you and everyone else that's not what they mean.
But nah, they said technically the wrong thing, gotta be an enormous fucking bitch,
Kill yourself, grammar nazi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:57:05 No.39784152 Report

Quoted By: >>39784176 >>39784219

>>39784143
>game freak says they need to update the models
>ok let me use my made up circlejerk definition of what a model means so I can be disingenuous and pretend game freak is lying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:57:52 No.39784158 Report

Quoted By: >>39784166 >>39784171

>>39784112
The models ARE the same, no amount of redefining common parlance terms is going to change the fact that the 3D meshes are 100% identical. Ohmori should have used another term if he meant something else

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 00:59:22 No.39784166 Report

Quoted By: >>39784177 >>39784219

>>39784158
>The models ARE the same
Hey look, another retard!

>that the 3D meshes are 100% identical
But the textures aren't, therefore the models aren't the same.

>Ohmori should have used another term
No, he used the term correctly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:01:05 No.39784171 Report

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>>39784158
I think I'd rather trust Ohmori's definition of a model than the retarded underage /vp/ armchair programmer's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:01:57 No.39784176 Report

Quoted By: >>39784191 >>39784193

>>39784152
>game freak says they need to update the models
>they made the 3DS models with future-proofing in mind
wew lad.
>b-but no they changed the textures, so they updated the models haha I win!
When we have shit like Minccino's entire face being a texture that counterargument comes off as a self-own than anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:02:07 No.39784177 Report

Quoted By: >>39784385

>>39784166
>Masuda enters a small, dark room
>The single light flickers on revealing a man chained up
>"Good morning, shill" Masuda says
>Shill looks up, instantly drooling upon seeing his master Masuda
>"M-Masuda-sama! What is today's news?"
>Masuda smiled
>"Today a new announcement; we are removing natures"
>A huge grin crossed Shill's face, nothing but excitement filled his face
>"That's not all, Shilliam... we're even not updating the graphics like we promised"
>Upon hearing those words, Shill's pants were stained with cum from excitement; he fell to his knees, panting like a dog, hoping to look the bottom of Masuda's boots for today's breakfast
>"Oh you think thats all?" Masuda laughed, "We're removing the post-game. All of it. Game straight up doesn't have anything to do after winning except catching the rest of the Pokemon only available in the game"
>Shill moaned as he came all over the place, Masuda bringing nothing but joy to him at the proposal of less content
>Masuda tossed him a phone with /vp/ opened up
>"Its time to get back to work. Please go praise my game now despite me being a lazy sack of shit"
>Suddenly, a frown appeared on Shill's face
>"Whats the matter?" Masuda asked
>"Am I getting paid for this?" Shill asked
>Masuda laughed
>"Of course not"
>Shill smiled and replied "Thank Arceu-"
>Before he finished that sentenced, Shill laughed, forgetting that Arceus isn't going to be in the Dex
>Masuda locked up Shill's cage and left, happy knowing that Shill had found his place on this Earth; as a bottom-feeder licking GameFreak's boots

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:06:24 No.39784191 Report

Quoted By: >>39784228

>>39784176
>>they made the 3DS models with future-proofing in mind
This was ALWAYS conjecture made by fans justifying the extremely high polycount. You can argue the meshes are future proofed, but the entire model absolutely isn't. Pokken, LGPE, and SS all use new textures for the models despite the meshes being the same.

>When we have shit like Minccino's entire face being a texture
Yes, Minccino's face is a part of the model. I don't see your point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:06:27 No.39784193 Report

Quoted By: >>39784216

>>39784176
>"the models can't be incompatible with Switch because I say so"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:06:43 No.39784195 Report

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>>39784089
Refutable.
I've already said time and time again that if they do bring the National Dex back, it's because WE asked for it, not because GF want to bring it back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:09:25 No.39784216 Report

Quoted By: >>39784287

>>39784193
>vectors being incompatible with anything strong enough to render them

Do you even know the bare minimum about what you are talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:09:57 No.39784219 Report

Quoted By: >>39784227

>>39784166
>>39784152
>>39784112
>it's the "TEXTURES ARE THE EXACT SAEM AS THE MESH MODEL" faggot
Why do you not understand that a model still can fucking exist without a texture and BE THE EXACT SAME
I don't understand your autistic fervor for saying this, it's somehow more autistic than the entirety of /vp/
If you place an entire fucking new texture on a model, that model doesn't miraculously turn into a different being, it turns into a pallete swap of said being AT MOST
In turn, if you change the model and slap the original texture on, then it's that new model with the original creature's texture
You can't just get a venusaur mesh model to look like venusaur then slap fucking pikachu's texture and say it's a new pokemon, it's clearly venusaur's fucking model with a horrifically stretched out pikachu texture you fucking hyper autist

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:11:13 No.39784227 Report

Quoted By: >>39784261 >>39784292 >>39784313 >>39784432 >>39784454

>>39784219
>Why do you not understand that a model still can fucking exist without a texture and BE THE EXACT SAME
A model without a texture and a model with a texture are two different models.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:11:17 No.39784228 Report

Quoted By: >>39784268

>>39784191
>This was ALWAYS conjecture made by fans justifying the extremely high polycount. You can argue the meshes are future proofed, but the entire model absolutely isn't. Pokken, LGPE, and SS all use new textures for the models despite the meshes being the same.
Are you insinuating that GF might've converted the models to some proprietary file that only the 3DS could read properly? Because you're reaching levels of wew lad that shouldn't even be possible.

>Yes, Minccino's face is a part of the model. I don't see your point.
https://www.aoa.org/doctor-locator-search

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:15:54 No.39784261 Report

Quoted By: >>39784267 >>39784292 >>39784301

>>39784227
It has to be bait at this point, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:16:16 No.39784263 Report

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I think they're intentionally holding the rest of the dex off for the next games, be they DynaSword & GigaShield or Chaotic Diamond & Idyllic Pearl, or Z or whatever. I wouldn't be surprised if they have almost every mon up to gen 8 modeled and polished for Switch already.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:17:21 No.39784267 Report

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>>39784261
I's an autist who thinks being pedantic = being clever/smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:17:20 No.39784268 Report

Quoted By: >>39784286 >>39784305

>>39784228
>Are you insinuating that GF might've converted the models to some proprietary file that only the 3DS could read properly?
No, I'm insinuating that GF still has to create new assets for their new games. They can't use the exact same models they were using before because they would look like garbage on a console game.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:20:02 No.39784286 Report

Quoted By: >>39784308 >>39784312

>>39784268
Man I can't wait for when the game gets dumped and it's found out that the textures fit perfectly with the SM models
I wonder how many walls you are going to break

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:20:07 No.39784287 Report

Quoted By: >>39784311

>>39784216
>"the 3DS run environment is exactly the same as the Switch's"
Do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:20:59 No.39784292 Report

Quoted By: >>39784312

>>39784227
So fucking shadow Mario in both sunshine and galaxy are completety different to normal mario despite being
>the same height
>same width
>same proportions
>same abilities
>same fucking everything
cuz TEXTURESSSSS
Aight mate, just completely ignore my single, obvious point. Yeah you must be the literal best at conversations, ignoring everyone's words and saying "No im right cuz it's totally what i say it is"
>>39784261
Pretty much, no one is this retarded, this fucking frequently just because

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:22:12 No.39784301 Report

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>>39784261
It's literally not. Think of it like a tent. Without the outer covering, it's still a tent, but it also doesn't work like a tent should. Same as models and textures. The texture goes over the model to make it work as it should.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:22:48 No.39784305 Report

Quoted By: >>39784312

>>39784268
>They can't use the exact same models they were using before because they would look like garbage on a console game.
You underestimate the versatility of shaders, my dear property.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:23:22 No.39784308 Report

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>>39784286
Textures are ALWAYS going to be the same. But I'm betting the bobnes, rigging and all the other associated shit that goes into displaying an in-game model will be completely different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:23:52 No.39784311 Report

Quoted By: >>39784410

>>39784287
Okay so you don't. Thanks for outing yourself as not only a pedant, but an absolute fucking retard. Unironically commit suicide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:24:02 No.39784312 Report

Quoted By: >>39784318 >>39784329 >>39784390

>>39784286
>Man I can't wait for when the game gets dumped and it's found out that the textures fit perfectly with the SM models
Except the textures themselves are still new, meaning they still updated the models.
I wonder how many walls you are going to break

>>39784292
>So fucking shadow Mario in both sunshine and galaxy are completety different to normal mario
Well, one is shadow mario and the other is normal mario. So they clearly aren't the same.

>Aight mate, just completely ignore my single, obvious point
Your entire "point" is dismantled by that single statement I made.

>>39784305
Using a shader would produce horrible effects compared to just updating the textures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:24:05 No.39784313 Report

Quoted By: >>39784322

>>39784227
You are just arguing semantics at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:25:09 No.39784318 Report

Quoted By: >>39784322

>>39784312
>Using a shader would produce horrible effects compared to just updating the textures.
You have absolutely no idea about what you are talking about. Please stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:26:01 No.39784322 Report

Quoted By: >>39784329 >>39784390

>>39784313
And yet Dexfags are the ones using "semantics" to pretend GF is lying.

>>39784318
Great argument anon. You sure showed me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:26:21 No.39784325 Report

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I'm betting 10 bucks that this autist in MERRIKU himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:26:42 No.39784329 Report

Quoted By: >>39784402 >>39784418

>>39784312
>Using a shader would produce horrible effects compared to just updating the textures.
I thought they were updating the model, which one is it, you tap-dancing crap of the world?

>>39784322
Wait, you're conceding already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:34:59 No.39784385 Report

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>>39784177
i have the weirdest boner right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:35:32 No.39784390 Report

Quoted By:

>>39784322
>>39784312
You know what
Let's all ignore this faggot please, this is unbearable to read
He just doesn't have a brain, cuz otherwise, how the fuck does he JUST not get it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:37:09 No.39784402 Report

Quoted By: >>39784413

>>39784329
>I thought they were updating the model,
They are updating the model. Nothing I said contradicted that.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:38:27 No.39784410 Report

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>>39784311
>"n-no u"
See, if you actually DID know what you were talking about, I'd have said nothing to you. The fact you're pulling claims out your hole to support your theory that you know more about the devs about coding for Nintendo systems however is painting a big fat sign above your head declaring to the board (and by extension, the world) how big a retard you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:38:47 No.39784413 Report

Quoted By: >>39784414

>>39784402
You said they were "Just updating the textures". The "Just" contradicts your statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:39:17 No.39784414 Report

Quoted By: >>39784449 >>39784567

>>39784413
The textures are part of the model. "Just" updating the textures is also "just" updating the model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:40:01 No.39784418 Report

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>>39784329
>I thought they were updating the model
You do realise, by definition, the editing of something to allow it to function in a newer environment is updating it, yeah?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:42:23 No.39784432 Report

Quoted By: >>39784441

>>39784227
Anyone in the business would laugh at you if you said this, holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:44:19 No.39784441 Report

Quoted By: >>39784567

>>39784432
Anyone in the business would laugh at you if you thought textures aren't a part of models, holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:45:39 No.39784449 Report

Quoted By: >>39784456 >>39784489

>>39784414
>The textures are part of the model.
Not necessarily. You could've been talking about textures that would be mapped to a 2D plane. Your post was very vague.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:46:59 No.39784454 Report

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>>39784227
I'm going to be constructive here: you should kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:47:02 No.39784456 Report

Quoted By: >>39784482

>>39784449
>Not necessarily
Yes necessarily, because these textures are being made for models.

>Your post was very vague.
It's actually not vague at all, you're just pretending you don't understand the context of my post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:50:35 No.39784482 Report

Quoted By: >>39784493

>>39784456
>these textures are being made for models.
How do I know that if you don't explicitly mention that they're for models and not UI assets or images meant to be wrapped onto a 2D plane?

>you're just pretending you don't understand the context of my post.
Absolutely not. You've just refused to maintain a consistent amount of context to any of your posts. Why are you being so obtuse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:51:31 No.39784489 Report

Quoted By: >>39784492

>>39784449
Aww, babby got btfo so tried to be disingenuous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:52:11 No.39784492 Report

Quoted By: >>39784528

>>39784489
Stop talking about yourself in the third person. It's weird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:52:18 No.39784493 Report

Quoted By: >>39784509

>>39784482
>How do I know that if you don't explicitly mention that they're for models
Because we're talking about textures for models.

>You've just refused to maintain a consistent amount of context to any of your posts
Yes I have. Try actually following the conversation instead of randomly jumping in and pretending to be smart. Why are you being so obtuse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:53:47 No.39784509 Report

Quoted By: >>39784521 >>39784528

>>39784493
>Because we're talking about textures for models.
No we aren't. We're talking about models. You only brought up textures to divert attention to your statement being wafer thin.

>Why are you being so obtuse?
Is there an echo in here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:55:31 No.39784521 Report

Quoted By: >>39784563

>>39784509
>We're talking about models
Exactly. We ARE talking about models anon! And talking about models includes talking about textures for those models! Yay! You're learning!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 01:56:22 No.39784528 Report

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>>39784492
Cry harder sperg, it's very entertaining.
>>39784509
>and she's STILL at it

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 02:02:12 No.39784563 Report

Quoted By: >>39784570 >>39784947

>>39784521
>talking about models includes talking about textures for those models!
Yes, FINALLY! You have revealed your true imbecilic nature to me! Your wafer thin argument has crumpled before your very eyes and now you're reduced to parroting. I see you've even attempted to insult me using a samefag as well. Brilliant, but a little too obvious. Next time be sure to wait longer than a minute before replying a second time.

I have already logged this in my incredibly large book of arguments won. Apologize for wasting my time and I'll see you in the next thread.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 02:02:44 No.39784567 Report

Quoted By: >>39784942

>>39784414
>>39784441
Not even going to keep arguing with you. You are beyond hope. In Maya, it's called "apply material to selection" for a fucking reason, because they are two separate things. The texture is edited in an entirely different program, any number of image editing programs really. Taking an image from online or making one in Photoshop and then applying it to your model is not the same as changing the model. Go take a class or smth

Any more and I will just start linking you to the Autodesk website tutorials

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 02:03:15 No.39784570 Report

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>>39784563
Fuck. You got me good. I have no choice but to concede...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 03:10:45 No.39784942 Report

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>>39784567
>The texture is edited in an entirely different program
Not relevant. We're not talking about how models are edited. We're talking about models.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 03:11:51 No.39784947 Report

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>>39784563
Cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 04:24:22 No.39785333 Report

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>>39784000
>You don't work in game dev, so your experience with 3D modeling programs is irrelevant, you armchair game dev

Wrong

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 11:21:19 No.39786716 Report

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>it's that same autistic faggot that wants to argue semantics on what "model" means again rather than the actual thread topic

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