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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 23:22:36 No.39790644 View View Reply Original Report

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>drop pokemon around gen 3
>pick it back up around the tail end of gen 6 after learning about online battling simulators
>think sun and moon and especially ultra sun and moon look terrible compared to other games, still haven't purchased a pokemon game since emerald
>now it's sword and shield "hype" season
>appalled by the lack of quality and lack of effort put into the games; barely a step up from gens 6 and 7 on the fucking 3ds
>people here are actively defending the games and attempting to shield, deflect, and derail all criticism leveled at it
Be honest with me, those of you looking forward to Sword & Shield. Do you play other games?

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 23:49:18 No.39790816 Report

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>>39790644
Doubtful

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 23:50:33 No.39790823 Report

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>>39790644
>Do you play other games?
I try, but I can't get into anything nowadays. I feel like Pokemon is one of the few remaining things in life I enjoy.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 23:51:04 No.39790830 Report

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>>39790644
>Do you play other games?
Yes. Cope harder.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 23:51:58 No.39790836 Report

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I play alot of other simplistic rpgs and yup, I'm buying it!

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 23:54:41 No.39790867 Report

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>>39790830
>cope harder

enlighten me as to why you defenders get so anal as to come and try to storm and shield a series from criticism but when we turn to laugh or poke fun at you you faggots turn to tell us to cope or seethe.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 23:55:36 No.39790877 Report

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ye, just finished pathologic 2 it was fucking hellish and genuinely stressful 10/10 would recommened.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Aug 2019 23:59:48 No.39790900 Report

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>>39790867
Because watching you get this mad over people being excited for a fun looking game is funny as fuck.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:05:28 No.39790927 Report

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>>39790900
>fun looking game.
then by all means enjoy it. but for prior reasons of cut content and continually cut content with nothing to actually fill it's gap and no justifiable reason I cannot partake in said game, even if I am one of the few on this board that likes KISS badger

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:05:55 No.39790929 Report

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>>39790644
You don't get it OP, if you make a retarded person tell you he's retarded isn't going to make him smart. You are only going to get retarded answers that make you angry. Stop making stupid threads and giving them the grounds to do so.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:09:11 No.39790947 Report

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>>39790644
Falseflagging faggot.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:09:48 No.39790951 Report

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>>39790927
Cut content doesn't matter if the cut content is irrelevant to the quality of the game.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:13:18 No.39790972 Report

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>>39790951
but.. most of the lost quality for the past 2 gens was loss of content especially in post game, poor plot threads... and lack of actual quality design and animation which most of you hand waved to it being on a handheld. now it continues and you people continue to make excuses despite the fact they have more tools and space to work with.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:13:21 No.39790973 Report

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39790951
This is literal bait and you are going to fall for it OP. You'll deserve everything you get if you reply.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:14:33 No.39790981 Report

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>>39790972
You fucking idiot, you are dumber than them.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:15:13 No.39790987 Report

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>>39790972
>but.. most of the lost quality for the past 2 gens was loss of content especially in post game
RS has fuck all post-game. DP has fuck all post-game. BW has fuck all post-game. Why are you pretending this is a sudden issue with last two generations?

>poor plot threads
SM has a better story than gen 3 and 4.

>and lack of actual quality design and animation
The animations have only improved since gen 5.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:15:52 No.39790990 Report

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>>39790981
>u r dumb
noice

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:16:31 No.39790996 Report

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>>39790900
But it's so easy. We're already mad. Whether you're here or not, people are mad. Trolling should be riling up people who aren't mad.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:16:56 No.39791003 Report

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>>39790644
The problem is that you're basing it off graphics which has never been a thing before
>Do you play other games?
I haven't played a game since gen 5 outside of Moon. Right now I'm busy trying to get 100% in BOTW

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:18:52 No.39791010 Report

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>>39790990
You are being baited hard. I tried to warn you now you are locked in a fight that will only get you angry. I guess I'll start laughing at you then.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:21:53 No.39791027 Report

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>>39790987
>animations have imrpoved
gee whiz, so glad 3rd party 3d games done by Genius sonority don't exist to compare to.
>SM had better-
no, gen 5, next. (also, unskippable cut scenes and awful unlikeable characters who got in the way. the only thing SM in particular got right was the Comedic relief in Team Skull, and even then more characters were forgettable and bland in comparison to 5 and most of them made me wanna punch them to get to shut up)
>Lack of Post game in gen 3, 4, and-
HGSS. that game was literally the best part of Gen 4, they crammed and filled so much in that game that I still play it

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:23:25 No.39791035 Report

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>>39791010
I know

but
a) I am bored
and
b) I wanna argue about something because I am bored.
plus I am not sure if this is some Black pill trolling by people who are just as disgusted or someone who genuinely believes this shit.
kinda leaning to the former with most of the arguments against gen 8 being posted by now.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:23:40 No.39791038 Report

Quoted By: >>39791053 >>39791055 >>39791123

>>39790644
Looking at this board and coming away with the impression that the dominant mindset is to deflect criticism means you see what you want to see.

But to answer you honestly, here’s my opinion. My first game as a kid was Red on Gameboy Color. I subsequently played each Gen after this and moved up with each new console. As such, I feel like I have experience to prove the games look at the standard you should expect for a Pokémon game. I never kept playing a new gen because of graphics. Do you pick up books and throw them away with disgust because they don’t have good enough graphics? It’s the same thing. As long as they look “fine” in Pokémon, it’s really the features that matter, and how long you can spend with the world in game.

To be honest again, no, I rarely played other games, but since I got a switch and didn’t want to just play Pokémon on a larger purchase like that, I picked up BOTW. Which, yes, it’s extremely impressive, but that doesn’t make me think Pokémon is lacking in some significant way. It’s a different style and a different level of seriousness for each game and the visuals reflect this. It wouldn’t be bad if all of the kanto map was open world, for example, but let’s go prove that even steps up in graphic interface are meaningless if there isn’t fun stuff to do. You all should try harder to actually understand and appreciate what you’re supposed to do in a Pokémon game.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:23:55 No.39791040 Report

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>>39791027
>gee whiz, so glad 3rd party 3d games done by Genius sonority don't exist to compare to.
Plenty of other games exist to compare to.

>no, gen 5, next.
I'm not talking about gen 5. I'm talking about gen 3 and 4 which had garbage ass stories.

>HGSS
Why are you comparing a rehash against a brand new original game? I'd fucking hope the rehash has post-game if 90% of the game is just copied from an older game.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:26:06 No.39791053 Report

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>>39791038
the graphics argument wasn't for graphics sake, it was because they argued that they were cutting the dex for improved models, texture and graphics when in truth they are just lazy like they always have been.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:26:13 No.39791055 Report

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>>39791038
Based boomer

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:29:00 No.39791072 Report

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>>39791040
> no I am talking gen 3 and 4
no shit they did, HGSS and gen 5 are the steps up, to go back to prior standards is a regression Anon albeit HGSS wasnt a "perfect" game it offered the most content and features and was fun, even if a remake. if the future games dip below a set example, they are a REGRESSION. pure and simple.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:30:29 No.39791084 Report

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>>39791072
>and gen 5 are the steps up
Where's the post-game in BW? I sure don't see any.

>if the future games dip below a set example
But SS isn't dipping below anything because it's an original game and not a rehash.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:36:03 No.39791123 Report

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>>39791038
you think pokemon is baby game so you're fine with it being treated like baby game, got it

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:37:10 No.39791127 Report

Quoted By: >>39791145 >>39791150

>>39791084
>post game in BW
gen 5 was the example for story, HGSS was the example of post game. (beyond which BW2 would be a better example)
>SS isnt dipping below-
SS isnt out yet, this is more or less pattern prediction and trailer prediction. now if SS blows my ass out of the water with content and loads of improvements save for Waifu's and Galar forms, fuck it I will buy a copy. but all I see is sports ball, bland generic rival material, and some weird mix of Mega's and Z moves that just make the pokemon look like giant holograms with the same shitty battle animations and some poor overworld ones too.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:39:49 No.39791145 Report

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>>39791127
>HGSS was the example of post game.
So BW still regressed according to your logic. Fantastic.

>SS isnt out yet
Exactly. So there's no point pretending it's """regressed."""

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:40:45 No.39791150 Report

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>>39791127
oh, and of course half the dex being cut for "improvements" we all know wont be made, with nothing to add.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:44:39 No.39791179 Report

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>>39791145
yes, it did regress with one of the points. but it still had the best story in the series by far with even every point of the region making cultural nods to greek and chinese
and various philosophical nods in the plot point while not "super clever" made you at least question the pokemon world and how we do things for a bit.
and there is no pretending, there is plenty within word of god moments and through trailer that they cut or that they added which is already subpar. I direct you to arguments that have already been made against them if you need a refresher.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:47:00 No.39791189 Report

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>>39791179
>yes, it did regress with one of the points.
So SS didn't actually regress since BW is weaker in other categories. Fantastic.

>and there is no pretending, there is plenty within word of god moments
such as.....

>and through trailer that they cut or that they added which is already subpar
Nope.

>I direct you to arguments that have already been made against them
There are no arguments except "M-MUH DS CIRCLEJERK GAMES ARE BETTER BECAUSE I SAY SO"

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:48:02 No.39791199 Report

Quoted By: >>39791238 >>39791271

>>39791150
>for "improvements" we all know wont be made

?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:51:16 No.39791210 Report

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>>39790644
I want to play sword and shield. However only if all my mons are in there. To me graphics isn't a deal breaker but thanos snapping pokemon for "higher quality animations" isn't the way to go. I would rather wait for super sword and super shield to "apologize" for the mistake that they're going to a new "direction." To me I've been playing since emerald and bought the earlier games because I like them and I have mons since I was like 9, hell I've stuck with them for years but to me as a veteran player Gen VI more specifically XY lost most of pokemon's soul. I also liked USUM but I wish those were the games that released instead of SM. Hell I would've loved a gen VII version of kanto only if they had everything FRLG had but no they fucked it up by putting it on the switch and made the game an actual safari zone, and no sevii isles. ( for reference I got SM for free was kinda disappointed so I bought USUM "because ooh let me try this" I'm telling you I'm considering about dropping the series if they dont pull their heads out of their asses. I would much rather be playing breath of the wild 2, or splatoon 2, hell maybe even 3 if it gets made.) Point is I know they don't care about the real players form the mid 2000s anymore, they would rather have little kids shove a shitty pokemon game in their face and would name themselves Ash. I swear to god pokemon is going to become over inflated and burst. No one will give a shit in 6 years.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:56:28 No.39791234 Report

Quoted By: >>39791334

>>39791189
>continues to try to cherry pick what Gen 5 made good that that every gen later and prior lacked and then says since it set a story standard and no other it is a full on regression when the point was it was with HGSS GAMEPLAY and gen 5 STORY that there is a standard set.
>ignores the obvious point with word of god referring to the creator of the game saying that the national dex will not exist at all and all pokemon outside of said region can not be in it.
>yes, all the game play trailers can show you the lack of improvements thus far.
>"there are no arguments except-"
yes they do exist, from animation cuts, graphic cuts, pokemon cuts, ect. aside from VP stroking off Sinnoh remakes as of late there were lots of things said. literally pull up a fucking google search and look.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 00:57:30 No.39791238 Report

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>>39791199

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:03:23 No.39791271 Report

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>>39791199
btw, nice 3ds tex mod Rhyperior, here is a gif with one from XY

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:09:34 No.39791307 Report

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>>39791238
>the same animation for the 8 time
Are our dex friends running out of propaganda?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:12:00 No.39791322 Report

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>>39790644
It's my impression most of /vp/ thinks S&S is gonna be dogshit

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:13:06 No.39791329 Report

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>>39791307
I already told you that the prior argument has been made, you bitched on to play ignorant.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:13:24 No.39791334 Report

Quoted By: >>39791387 >>39791429 >>39791483

>>39791234
>>continues to try to cherry pick what Gen 5 made good
You're cherrypicking yourself by using ONLY gen 5's story yet ignoring every other part of the game being ""regressed"" from HGSS.

>>ignores the obvious point with word of god referring to the creator of the game saying that the national dex will not exist at all
So what?

>>yes, all the game play trailers can show you the lack of improvements thus far.
But there are improvements.

>from animation cuts
Even though each Pokemon has more animations now?

>graphic cuts
Even though the graphics are the best they've been in the series?

>pokemon cuts
Even though it's irrelevant to 99% of people playing the game and the game will probably still have more Pokemon than gen 3-4?

>>39791238
Yes, that's a new animation for Double Kick. I don't know what you're supposed to be showing me anon.

>>39791271
Wow anon! Thanks for posting a Rhyperior that looks far worse than the one in SS.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:22:35 No.39791387 Report

Quoted By: >>39791419 >>39791479 >>39791542

>>39791334
it looks better then the image you showed from SM.

>will still have more pokemon then gen 3-4
not entirely sure about that chief. even with my favorite on the confirmed list I see they will only return a few mons, revamp a few mons, and make fewer mons with a bunch of Legends and Legend like creatures like SM.
>there are improvements.
so besides the shitty greenery your only leg to stand on is better shaded mons, which isnt much since all they did was rehash XY future proofed models which doesnt in itself justify the culling given that the entirety of the national dex in XY even with GF's faults and foibles only took up a couple of gigs.
>even though each pokemon has more animations
[x] doubt
>Gen 5 had a LOT of things I PERSONALLY liked. moving animated sprites, triple battles, inverse battles, seasons, interesting cover legends, making the league an actual plot point with the story and evil team, experiments with camera angles, the first (albeit poorly implemented) difficulty setting. but ultimately none that I can see most people universally agree upon unlike the story itself. so unless you want me to speak on a point of pure bias the story is the only part I can really state right now.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:27:16 No.39791419 Report

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>>39791387
oh yes, and
>actual sequal versions rather then a rehash/remake of the versions I just bought, which actually let you explore more and new parts of the region.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:28:19 No.39791429 Report

Quoted By: >>39791461

>>39791334
>Yes, that's a new animation for Double Kick
This has to be a troll post.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:33:03 No.39791461 Report

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>>39791429
yeah, what did I tell ya

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:36:28 No.39791479 Report

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>>39791387
>it looks better then the image you showed from SM.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:36:36 No.39791483 Report

Quoted By: >>39791491 >>39791504

>>39791238
>>39791334
People like to repost that one without thinking of WHY they don't use a full animation in it.
It'd suck to have to watch their physical attack animation 5 times in a row for the sake of that weak ass move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:38:16 No.39791491 Report

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>>39791483
Or, and this is a really radical notion, they could make a short animation for multi-hit moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:39:00 No.39791494 Report

Quoted By: >>39791504

>>39791491
Which they did.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:41:17 No.39791504 Report

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>>39791483
>turn
>hop
>damage animation
>life bar drops
>turn
>hop
>damage animation
>life bar drops

I'll raise you an alternative:
>turn
>quick animation for multi-hit moves
>damage animation
>damage animation
>repeat for number of hits
>life bar drops consistently during the damage animations

>>39791494
The user of multi-hit moves has no animation. It's just the model rising up and down in its idle pose.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Aug 2019 01:47:38 No.39791542 Report

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>>39791387
>it looks better then the image you showed from SM.
So you're just shitposting. That's good to know.

>not entirely sure about that chief. even with my favorite on the confirmed list I see they will only return a few mons
If by "a few" you mean 400-500, which still more than gen 3-4, then yes.

>which isnt much
Every Pokemon looking far better is a lot.

>which doesnt in itself justify the culling given that the entirety of the national dex in XY even with GF's faults and foibles only took up a couple of gigs.
It has nothing to do with space. Updating every model in the game is too time consuming.

>[x] doubt
Every Pokemon has a Dynamax transformation animation, which is more animations than last generation.

>>Gen 5 had a LOT of things I PERSONALLY liked
And yet it still regressed by not having post-game according to your dumbfuck logic.

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