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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 04:47:17 No.39990646 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39990725 >>39993384 >>39994625 >>39995319 >>39995835 >>39997964 >>39999311 >>40003654

That quote deeply connects with me. Mewtwo was right on more levels than one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 04:49:45 No.39990667 Report

Quoted By: >>39990854 >>39992079 >>40000979 >>40003620

The dub was unironically better than the source material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 04:57:09 No.39990725 Report

Quoted By: >>39990772 >>40003637

>>39990646
This is one quote that has lived with me since hearing it.

Everyone is brought into this world the same, screaming. Fact, so why is birth all that important?

It's the little and big things that you do is all that matters.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 05:02:08 No.39990772 Report

Quoted By: >>39997956

>>39990725
no one born the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 05:15:36 No.39990854 Report

Quoted By: >>39994501

>>39990667
I disagree

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 06:52:52 No.39992079 Report

Quoted By: >>39994501

>>39990667
It absolutely wasn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 09:02:58 No.39992904 Report

Quoted By: >>39994638

Such a bad quote, and dangerous because autists like you take it seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 09:04:19 No.39992910 Report

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Mewtwo is T____

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 10:52:20 No.39993384 Report

Quoted By: >>39994638 >>39994679 >>39994837 >>39999207

>>39990646
>That quote deeply connects with me. Mewtwo was right on more levels than one.
Except he was WRONG. Mewtwo's actions were completely dictated by the circumstances of his birth, his decisions even after was dictated by the genetic disposition engineered into him and then atop of that he becomes a massive hypocrite by recreating the experiments that created him and 'perfecting' them by creating clones which could not disobey his orders even when they knew them to be wrong and desperately wanted to stop, they'd keep fighting to exhaustion bawling their eyes out because they knew they were wrong but physically or psychologically could not stop themselves.

The quote is ironic in that movie and total bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 13:34:16 No.39994501 Report

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>>39990854
>>39992079
It was. Deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 13:55:06 No.39994625 Report

Quoted By: >>39994638 >>39994837

>>39990646
Mewtwo is completely wrong though. You can be born with a malformation or not winning the genetic or geographical lottery, which conditions what you can do with your life.
Sure, you can bypass that by sheer effort but those are outliers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 13:56:12 No.39994638 Report

Quoted By: >>39994666

>>39992904
>>39993384
>>39994625
yikes so many autists in this thread

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 13:59:43 No.39994666 Report

Quoted By: >>39994754 >>39994802 >>39994889 >>39994947 >>39995115

>>39994638
>I don't understand what they are saying or can add anything constructive so I'll just call them autists

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:01:20 No.39994679 Report

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>>39993384
Truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:15:39 No.39994754 Report

Quoted By: >>39994802

>>39994666
autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:22:00 No.39994802 Report

Quoted By: >>39994883

>>39994754
>>39994666

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:25:55 No.39994837 Report

Quoted By: >>39994848 >>39994860 >>39994898

>>39993384
>>39994625
He's not wrong though. What you do actually does determine who you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:27:46 No.39994848 Report

Quoted By: >>39994865 >>39996749

>>39994837

Actually no, it’s who you’re born. Born white and wealthy? Your life is unencumbered and easy. Born poor Nd black? You’re completely fucked.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:29:43 No.39994860 Report

Quoted By: >>40000398

>>39994837
But hes proven wrong because in the movie because what he was dictated his actions same with the clones he created. They only did what they were created to do, himself included as he was engineered to dominate. Its why Fuji died contented, he succeeded just like he said. The quote was bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:30:10 No.39994865 Report

Quoted By: >>39994887

>>39994848
>muh racial and economic determinism
defeatist attitudes become self fulfilling prophecies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:32:53 No.39994883 Report

Quoted By: >>39994889 >>40003592

>>39994802
>t. seething autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:33:14 No.39994887 Report

Quoted By: >>39994907

>>39994865
It’s definitely doesn’t happen all of the time, but they are usually important factors that one must try to change to get of in the first place. So it isn’t entirely “irrelevant”

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:33:18 No.39994889 Report

Quoted By: >>39994920

>>39994883
>>39994666
Keep projecting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:34:16 No.39994898 Report

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>>39994837
Expose your arguments. What you just did is simply repeating your thesis again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:35:14 No.39994907 Report

Quoted By: >>39995393 >>39995825

>>39994887

This. For every Michelle Obama who climbs out of the cess pool, there are millions of others that never will

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:35:44 No.39994909 Report

Quoted By: >>39994930

So this vs the PMD Grovyle quote. Who wins?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:36:55 No.39994920 Report

Quoted By: >>39994947

>>39994889
Dietate, have dex, commit sudoku.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:38:09 No.39994930 Report

Quoted By: >>39994963

>>39994909
>PMD Grovyle quote

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:39:54 No.39994947 Report

Quoted By: >>39995055

>>39994920
>>39994666
Only instead of autism he's now chosen other buzzwords rather then a coherent thought. Next he'll No U.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:41:51 No.39994963 Report

Quoted By: >>39994983

>>39994930
The same thing but about death instead of how you are born that every PMDfag worships

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:45:38 No.39994983 Report

Quoted By: >>39995039 >>39995192 >>39999362

>>39994963
>The important thing is not how long you live, it's what you accomplish with your life.

I'd say that's a better quote but also potential bullshit as some people can accomplish lots but live little, or live a lot but accomplish nothing. Its all subjective bullshit we find in a book about chicken soup for something that makes us feel better about our pathetic existences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:49:39 No.39995008 Report

Quoted By: >>39995022

People shouldn't be judged because of what they are or where they came from. They should be judged by their character.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:51:07 No.39995022 Report

Quoted By: >>39995042

>>39995008
False

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:52:14 No.39995039 Report

Quoted By: >>39995102

>>39994983
isn't that literally what he said

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:52:39 No.39995042 Report

Quoted By: >>39995081 >>39995102

>>39995022
Care to substantiate your answer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:54:01 No.39995055 Report

Quoted By: >>39995115 >>40003592

>>39994947
> blah blah blah autistic crap blah.
Still a seething autist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:57:14 No.39995081 Report

Quoted By: >>39995195

>>39995042

Some people are born better than others. This can be substantiated on a biological, intellectual, financial, and geographical level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:58:54 No.39995102 Report

Quoted By: >>39995247

>>39995039
No it isn't he said life<How it was lived, in reality it can go either way depending on the individual or the circumstance
>>39995042
Yveltal is a threat, no matter its disposition, being in his presence is a threat to your very life by its innate nature so you will be forced judge it as being dangerous and if you don't you're a fool. It has nothing to with their actions but purely about what it is, and its nature and its not the only example. Deoxy and Necrozma are also dangerous by their very natures not their actions so your notion doesn't apply to every pokemon/character

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 14:59:57 No.39995115 Report

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>>39995055
>>39994666
Called it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:08:13 No.39995192 Report

Quoted By: >>39995216

>>39994983
That's exactly the point Grovyle makes, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:08:31 No.39995195 Report

Quoted By: >>39995253 >>39995271

>>39995081
Well of course. Nobody chooses to be born or created, and determinism (genetics, upraising, opportunity, etc.) is a huge factor in how your life will turn out. The point Mewtwo made is how you act determines who you are, not what you are or where you came from. The scope of his quote is referring to one's character and morality, not achievements.

This thread has evolved into an argument about free will vs. determinism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:11:34 No.39995216 Report

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>>39995192
No its not as my point is the point is arbitrary as it can be applied to either a person who lives lots and accomplishes little, or lives a little and accomplishes lot, neither are important its the LIFE LIVED that's important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:13:58 No.39995247 Report

Quoted By: >>39995309

>>39995102
If Yveltal is sentient enough to know the difference between right and wrong, and decided to recluse itself from other life to prevent innate destruction, they you could make the judgment that it was good.

Lugia, for example, is so powerful that the flap of it's wings can blow houses apart. So it chooses to live deep under the sea to contain it's power. It was born with the ability to easily destroy, but choose not to do so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:14:17 No.39995253 Report

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>>39995195

Nothing wrong with having that debate. It’s ten times better than the usual footfag/furryfucker shit on here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:15:57 No.39995271 Report

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>>39995195
Inclinations I'd say since Mewtwo clearly had free will but he was still guided by his experiences in the vat, with Giovanni and his genetic disposition. He had choice, but there is an awful lot of shit that determined what kind of individual Mewtwo turned into beyond his control.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:17:46 No.39995292 Report

Quoted By:

80% of IQ is heritable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:20:37 No.39995309 Report

Quoted By: >>39995394

>>39995247
>If Yveltal is sentient enough to know the difference between right and wrong, and decided to recluse itself from other life to prevent innate destruction, they you could make the judgment that it was good.

But still innately dangerous and justifiably something to fear regardless of its disposition as it can kill you without even meaning to just being in its proximity. There is a reason Yveltal is portrayed as being perpetually pissed, it was born cursed and will be cursed until the day it stops resurrecting and it did nothing wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:21:30 No.39995319 Report

Quoted By: >>39995352

>>39990646
this quote genuinely makes me fucking cringe whenever i see or hear it now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:23:43 No.39995347 Report

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Mewtwo needs to go back to frankfurt school

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:24:06 No.39995352 Report

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>>39995319
Especially since it came out of nowhere after Ash literally committed suicide for no reason that would justify such an epiphany

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:27:05 No.39995393 Report

Quoted By:

>>39994907
Well, it's still something. And I pray for those who didn't make it, but wants to do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:27:08 No.39995394 Report

Quoted By: >>39995480

>>39995309
>Death is inherently bad

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 15:34:48 No.39995480 Report

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>>39995394
No I'm saying a creature that innately absorbs the lifeforce of all living things around it at all times like Darth Nihilus would be viewed as being dangerous at all times no matter its actions or disposition. Add to that being caught under its wings or being in proximity to it when it dies instantly kills you there is more then enough reason to treat it with caution even if it means you no harm. Sometimes you do have to judge something based solely on what it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 16:05:10 No.39995825 Report

Quoted By:

>>39994907
And those who don't climb out of the cess pool only have themselves to blame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 16:06:18 No.39995835 Report

Quoted By: >>39996774

>>39990646
Some spic from my high school had this as his senior quote. What is he even referring to, incest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 17:36:35 No.39996749 Report

Quoted By: >>39996760 >>39996793

>>39994848
Born white? You get attacked and vilified by every form of media that exists every single day, and you won't be able to find work no matter how talented you are because jobs have Diversity quotas and the color of your skin isn't Diverse enough.
Born black? Money taxed from the dying population of whites will pay for you to have free food and shelter, you can get hired for jobs you don't have any experience or skill at, and crimes you commit will be ignored or covered up because law enforcement and news media don't want to seem "racist".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 17:37:49 No.39996760 Report

Quoted By:

>>39996749
assuming the cops dont kill a black on sight when you do or don't commit a crime of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 17:38:45 No.39996774 Report

Quoted By:

>>39995835

That he was born a filthy shitskin, and he thinks it doesn’t matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 17:40:06 No.39996793 Report

Quoted By:

>>39996749

It’s not that bad yet. Cops still shoot blacks before asking questions, helping to keep their numbers somewhat down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 19:28:26 No.39997956 Report

Quoted By: >>40003637

>>39990772
Exactly my point. We are all born in the same manner, usually, screaming, but yes we are born with a unique voice, the birth is far from important, it is what they do with the gifts or restrictions they have that defines them.

Mewtwo was created to do evil, but it ended up caring for all life and if they remembered to use the original Mewtwo for the Mega Evolution movie (Gensect Awakens) then I'm sure the push to Mega Evolve would have been Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 19:29:24 No.39997964 Report

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>>39990646
Mewtwo is trans!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 21:13:17 No.39999207 Report

Quoted By: >>39999282

>>39993384

You do realize Mewtwo created the clone Pokémon BEFORE he came upon the realization?

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 21:19:57 No.39999282 Report

Quoted By: >>40000429

>>39999207
Exactly, it should have shown him his 'realization' was bullshit. Hes not completely wrong but to totally discount the circumstances of ones birth from the person you are is idiotic, its a part of us we can never get rid of no matter how ashamed of it we maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 21:22:33 No.39999311 Report

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>>39990646
What mewtwo says is true, you can have a Low IQ and still be a morally good person or really smart and still do evil. The kickstart that our previous generation gives us can greatly help in what a person can achieve but that is not what the quote means

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 21:26:18 No.39999362 Report

Quoted By:

>>39994983
I also agree with Grovyle, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 22:36:05 No.40000398 Report

Quoted By:

>>39994860
>died contented
The way the dub words the line may make it a bit easier to misinterpret, but it's very clear from the Japanese wording that it's meant to be taken as "we got what we wanted, and now we die as a result".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 22:37:37 No.40000429 Report

Quoted By: >>40000807

>>39999282

Did they fuck?

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 23:06:42 No.40000807 Report

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>>40000429
No. They have no genitals. They hugged which is WAY more intense for a Pokemon.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 23:20:39 No.40000959 Report

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Anonymous Fri 13 Sep 2019 23:23:06 No.40000979 Report

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>>39990667
Aside from cutting the origin of mewtwo for the original release, I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2019 03:27:12 No.40003592 Report

Quoted By:

>>39994883
>>39995055
go to bed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2019 03:27:53 No.40003592,1 Report Delete

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Never

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2019 03:30:08 No.40003620 Report

Quoted By:

>>39990667

>a "fighting is wrong" message shoehorned into a product that didn't originally have it.

Yeah, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2019 03:31:36 No.40003637 Report

Quoted By:

>>39990725
>>39997956
kys retardditor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Sep 2019 03:32:49 No.40003654 Report

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>>39990646
>dude it’s nurture not nature

Mewtwo was a NuLysenkoist retard

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