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Which gen has the best Elite Four?

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:40:57 No.40380623 View View Reply Original Report

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Either in terms of the trainers themselves or the overall challenge. Champions not inclusive.

I think Gen 6 had one of the more memorable set in their own right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:43:04 No.40380645 Report

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>>40380623
>Gen 6 had one of the more memorable
I'll take "words that should never be put together in a sentence for 100", Alex

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:43:41 No.40380651 Report

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>>40380623
The Kalos Elite 4 should've had Megas too.
Siebold and Malva had a Mega Blastoise an a Mega Houndoom in the anime. Even Wulfric had a Mega Abomasnow.

It would have been fucking cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:44:58 No.40380661 Report

Quoted By: >>40380718 >>40380720 >>40381485

>>40380645
>/vp/ told me XY were bad so I can never say anything positive about it
Never post on my board again, sheep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:45:27 No.40380665 Report

Quoted By: >>40380701

>>40380623
>Champions not inclusive
Kanto > Kalos > Johto > Hoenn > Sinnoh > Unova > Alola

If Champions were inclusive, then Sinnoh shoots up to #1 because Cynthia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:46:31 No.40380675 Report

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>>40380623
E4 1-5 were all good. E4 6 and 7 were gabage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:47:27 No.40380684 Report

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>>40380623
Gen 5 in terms of memorability, not including Marshal, and best music too (though Gen 3's is close for music).

Marshal either shouldn't have been dark-skinned, or he should've been in dark clothes while either Shauntal or Grimsley should've been in light colored outfits. The idea of a black/white Elite Four was nice, but the execution was off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:48:50 No.40380701 Report

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>>40380623
>>40380665
>Kalos
explain yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:50:30 No.40380718 Report

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>>40380661
You'd be hardpressed for any normal player to even remember any of the Kalos E4's names, let alone remember that Steel guy (or his ace. hint: it's not Aegislash) or Dragon lady existed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:50:51 No.40380720 Report

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>>40380661
Based OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:51:05 No.40380726 Report

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5>1>2>6>7>3>4

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:54:26 No.40380763 Report

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>>40380718
The Dragon Lady makes my dick hard so of course i remember her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:58:05 No.40380794 Report

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>>40380645
Better than generic-looking trainer design man, not!Agatha, party rocker and Will 2.0 from dppt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 07:58:45 No.40380800 Report

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>>40380645
Idk, the fact that Malva is part of Team Flare and that Drasna implictly has ties to the Draconids, coupled with Wikstrom's distinctive manner (and the fan-theory that he is possessed by his Aegislash, if you're into fan-theories) all seem fairly memorable and interesting to me, regardless of what I think of gen 6 as a whole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:00:17 No.40380809 Report

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>>40380800
And siebold is hot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:00:57 No.40380815 Report

Quoted By: >>40381316

Gen 6 had the potential to be great. Diverse teams, trainers that fit the French region pretty well, and well-designed stages.
There was a huge wasted opportunity for each of them to have a Mega-evolving ace.

The most challenging ones would have to be Sinnoh due to non-conforming type usage (Flint using a fucking Steelix and Drifblim) or Unova thanks to powercreep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:01:34 No.40380819 Report

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>>40380809
this is also true

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:07:47 No.40380869 Report

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>>40380800
Malva is the exception, not the rule. What part of Drasna implies that she's a Draconid, since the Draconids lived secluded in Meteor Falls while Drasna implies that she's from Sinnoh? I'm not into fan theories in general, but I hadn't even heard of that Aegislash thing until now (I do think he has some kinda funny dialogue, but it doesn't make him or the E4 memorable in general).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:12:06 No.40380915 Report

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>>40380794
Being better than some of the worst doesn't make them close to the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:13:24 No.40380933 Report

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>>40380623
The Elite 4 in general have always been kind of shit
They're just some random trainers that you only meet at the end of the game with a super basic "theme" associated with them
Gen 7's Elite 4 (and champion battle in SM) was the best for me solely because it involved characters that you had already interacted with beforehand (besides Kahili) which made the battles themselves feel like they had more impact

Every other Elite 4 is completely forgettable outside of Gen 6's Elite 4 having a literal villain in it for no good reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:17:11 No.40380976 Report

Quoted By: >>40381027

I fucking hate how GF didnt't even bother giving the E4s in gen 6 and 7 a full team
Lazy cunts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:17:51 No.40380982 Report

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>>40380718
>let alone remember that Steel guy (or his ace. hint: it's not Aegislash)
>the strongest pokemon in his team
>not his ace

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:18:48 No.40380995 Report

Quoted By: >>40381046 >>40381068

>>40380933
Gen 2 had Koga and Bruno, Gen 4 kinda had Flint, and Gen 5 had two games as well as Caitlin for recurring characters.

However, I think the reason you pointed out for Gen 7 is why I felt it was anticlimactic. Like, I already stomped these guys before, so there's no excitement in fighting them again. This is why I felt Gen 2's was kinda underwhelming right down to the Champion, because having the final boss just be the semi-final boss from the last game doesn't make him seem like a significant hurdle to overcome (I did appreciate the storyline of Koga and Bruno moving up in the ranks though).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:20:04 No.40381003 Report

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The E4 would be cooler if they weren't all monotype. Obviously some would be, like Bruno, Koga, Drake, etc but as they are they just kinda feel like glorified gym leaders. As Oak's rival you'd expect Agatha to have a better team than she does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:21:16 No.40381015 Report

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>>40380933
Oh yeah, it sure felt great to beat these people who I already know were weaker than me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:22:14 No.40381027 Report

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>>40380976
Wrong. Gen 7 E4s had 5 Pokemon each. Gen 5 and 6 only had 4 (except in BW2 challenge mode they had 5)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:24:04 No.40381041 Report

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>>40380982
XY was weird, in that the last/highest leveled Pokemon in their E4 match isn't their ace overall. It's the first Pokemon in their Battle Chateau matches, so in Wikstrom's case it's Scizor, Malva's is Pyroar, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:24:32 No.40381046 Report

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>>40380995
I kinda like Lance being the champ because it's kinda implied he was in RBG before Blue came along, and with Red stepping out he probably was still the third best trainer in the region. Then it's just fun thinking about how the 4 changed with Lorelei leaving to go back home, Karen probably being chosen after Agatha's retirement and Will likely being a super strong trainer like the MC that couldn't beat Lance but made it far enough to be invited to join.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:24:44 No.40381047 Report

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>>40381027
>full team
>5

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:26:50 No.40381066 Report

Quoted By: >>40381127

>>40381041
>It's the first Pokemon in their Battle Chateau matches
That's a really nice headcanon you've got there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:26:59 No.40381068 Report

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>>40380995
>Like, I already stomped these guys before, so there's no excitement in fighting them again
I found it far more impactful to have these characters talk about how much my character had grown as trainer and that they'd finally have a Pokemon battle with me at their full strength.
What people need to realize is gym battles/grand trials are a test of a trainer's current strength. The actually gym leader/kahuna isn't using their full potential, so you're not "stomping" them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:30:08 No.40381090 Report

Quoted By: >>40381103

Kahili stands out a lot there, why is she the only one there with the overworld model instead of artwork?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:32:02 No.40381103 Report

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>>40381090
Because this was made before she was officially revealed by TPC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:32:14 No.40381105 Report

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>>40380623
Acerola being in the Alola elite four makes it even harder to take seriously

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:33:37 No.40381121 Report

Quoted By: >>40381132 >>40381148 >>40381174 >>40381316

>Still no grass type E4
>Still no electric type E4
>Still no normal type E4
>Still no fairy type E4

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:34:17 No.40381127 Report

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>>40381066
Anon, have you never done post-game? Trainers lead with their ace Pokemon in post-game facilities. Malva even in her hotel trainer battle only sends out her one, ace Pokemon, Pyroar, just like how she sends out her ace Pyroar first in the Battle Chateau.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:34:54 No.40381132 Report

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>>40381121
Electric never gets the chance to be there because they can't resist the urge to make an electric gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:36:21 No.40381148 Report

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>>40381121
Grass has no excuse
Electric has no real excuse
Fairy is a new type
Normal will never be an E4 typing because it's designed specifically the be the "early level" typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:36:49 No.40381151 Report

Quoted By: >>40381220

gen 1 and gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:38:30 No.40381174 Report

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>>40381121
>Mfw my fangame has exactly those elite four typings for exactly that reason
>Mfw the gym types and order were picked in a similar way also
Shame it'll never come out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:40:30 No.40381202 Report

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>>40380684
This never even occurred to me, wow

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Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:42:27 No.40381220 Report

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>>40381151
>2 of the leaders from gen 2 are actually gen 1
Kanto can't be beat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:44:27 No.40381230 Report

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>>40380933
It kind of annoyed me in SM that only the "first" two elite four were the kahunas you fought before. I was fine accepting Nanu didn't want in but I wish he nominated Molayne instead of Acerola. Never even meeting Kahili before pissed me off especially since you can't actually go to her golf course and she has no known affiliation with Poni Island.

And then! In USUM they did in fact add Molayne to the elite four... By removing Hala. Fucking why? USUM worst games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:53:14 No.40381282 Report

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>>40380623
I’d say Alola, since they’re characters that you already meet before hand, not some nobodies who just show up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:56:15 No.40381303 Report

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>>40381127
>Trainers lead with their ace Pokemon in post-game facilities
Again, nice headcanon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 08:59:03 No.40381316 Report

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>>40380623
Sinnoh has always been hardest for me, in DP and Plat. Kanto is second

>>40380815
>There was a huge wasted opportunity for each of them to have a Mega-evolving ace.

also pretty gay considering they gave the Hoenn E4 mega aces

fucking this >>40381121

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:00:19 No.40381323 Report

Quoted By: >>40381348 >>40381395 >>40381485

>>40380718
> Aegislash not his Ace
> Literally is his Ace in everything but the Anime

fuck off animeshitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:00:42 No.40381326 Report

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>>40380623
Johto's are the coolest bunch overall, Kanto is cool and Sinnoh's I like everyone overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:02:23 No.40381337 Report

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I always felt 3's was pretty strong, but maybe I'm just thinking of the music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VS1xATl8-Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:03:45 No.40381346 Report

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>>40380623
sunmoon for the characters actually being characters except kahili

though she does have a backstory of sorta being the previous champion

a shame she's just a golfer in the anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:03:56 No.40381348 Report

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>>40381323
>Literally is his Ace in everything but the Anime and the games themselves
Fixed that for you, unless you think that Siebold's ace is somehow fucking Barbaracle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:12:16 No.40381395 Report

Quoted By: >>40381424 >>40381485

>>40380982
>>40381323
Uh, different anon here, but I'm pretty sure Scizor IS his ace, because he's programmed to save his Scizor for last in the E4 battle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Pz5v5BT5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd94JKWBZ8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrjKaSotYyc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:19:38 No.40381424 Report

Quoted By: >>40381432

>>40381395
It's almost like they were planning on giving him Mega-Scizor but they got scared cause it might have been "too difficult"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:21:03 No.40381432 Report

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>>40381424
That would've been pretty based for the Elite Four. Like, their last Pokemon lowers the player's guard by being lower level than the previous one, then all of a sudden it Mega Evolves to wreck your shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Oct 2019 09:30:34 No.40381485 Report

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>>40380661
>>40380718
>>40380982
>>40381323
>>40381395
Lol XYfags btfo and point absolutely proven that people don't know shit about the XYE4 the worst E4.

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