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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:12:55 No.40416484 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>40416510 >>40416527 >>40417241 >>40417898 >>40417981 >>40417988 >>40419998

>Rainbow Rocket
>15 megas
>23 regional variants/evolutions
>At least 6 gigantamax forms (maybe more if we include possible Machamp and Gengar gigantamaxes)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCKING STOP WITH THE KANTOPANDERING
HOLY SHIT
FUCKING STOP
STOP IT
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:16:09 No.40416510 Report

Quoted By: >>40416665

>>40416484
>Rainbow Rocket
>no rocket executives
>no longer realistic motives
>new plan is to rule the universe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:17:58 No.40416527 Report

Quoted By: >>40416548 >>40416699 >>40416730

>>40416484
>Rainbow Rocket
All evil leaders are there.
>15 megas
iirc, hoenn has more megas. Shame on you, Unova.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:19:48 No.40416548 Report

Quoted By: >>40417822

>>40416527
difference is, hoenn had an entire remake for those, kanto didn't even need one to take second place

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:30:57 No.40416665 Report

Quoted By: >>40416679

>>40416510
>decent concept
>packed as post game """"""content"""""""
I wish I had the money to put a hit out on Ohmori and his puppeteer Masuda. Fuck them for wasting what could've been something great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:32:38 No.40416679 Report

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>>40416665
Ohmori didn't direct USUM, only the vanilla games. USUM were Iwao's doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:35:32 No.40416699 Report

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>>40416527
>All evil leaders are there.

Yeah but Giovanni is the leader even though he's the least threatening and has the weakest legendary. Mewtwo is nothing compared to literal gods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:39:05 No.40416730 Report

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>>40416527
>All the leaders are there
And yet what are they called? FUCKING TEAM ROCKET. Maxi, Archie, Lusamine, Lysandre, and Cyrus were there but who gets to be the big boss? Obviously Giovanni from KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:46:30 No.40416793 Report

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All this bitching about Team Rocket and Giovanni, but they weren't even done any justice with this. Giovanni was always just out for money and power, and his grunts wanted a cut of it and/or wanted to cause trouble. It wasn't a hard concept, the whole organization was basically just Italian Mafia meets Japanese Yakuza, minus the drugs and murder.
GF ruined TR, and have been doing so since their garbage redesigns in FRLG. The designs got even worse in HGSS, then Rainbow Rocket happened and they had what was left of their identity removed. Kantoniggers didn't win with this, they got fucked too. All Pokémon fans get fucked sooner or later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 03:49:49 No.40416816 Report

Quoted By: >>40416902 >>40416936 >>40417065

>ds babies are afraid to talk about how their games also pander to kanto

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 04:01:00 No.40416902 Report

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>>40416816
>he says this
>when unova is the only gen to not feature pikachu in any way for him to actually be catchable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 04:04:21 No.40416936 Report

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>>40416816
HGSS is the only DS era game to pander to KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 04:19:01 No.40417065 Report

Quoted By: >>40417206

>>40416816
Go join her, you will be much happier

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 04:32:02 No.40417206 Report

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>>40417065
My image has been stolen by a phonenigger who can't even tell when Leaffag is posting, which is always obvious.
I guess that's the risk one takes.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 04:35:42 No.40417241 Report

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>>40416484
>>Rainbow Rocket
Can I get a quick rundown? are they in again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:28:58 No.40417822 Report

Quoted By: >>40417989

>>40416548
>hoenn had an entire remake for those
Then that means there was Hoenn pandering in addition to Kanto pandering. Not to mention there are more Unova mons in the SwSh Dex than Kanto mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:38:00 No.40417898 Report

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>>40416484
I miss Alex Jones.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:46:42 No.40417966 Report

Quoted By: >>40417988 >>40418005 >>40418319

can't wait to go to another region that lacks an identity of its own because it's trying too hard to pander to people who don't play pokemon anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:48:41 No.40417981 Report

Quoted By: >>40417987 >>40418035

>>40416484
>>Rainbow Rocket
yep, conveniently leave out that the other evil team members are involved.

>>15 megas
yep, conveniently leave out that hoenn actually has the most megas, not kanto.

>>23 regional variants/evolutions
yep, conveniently leave out that the whole point of regional variants is that they're not kanto pokemon anymore.

>>At least 6 gigantamax forms
yep, conveniently leave out that plenty of the new pokemon have gigantamax forms too.

You underagefags are retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:50:01 No.40417987 Report

Quoted By: >>40417995

>>40417981
>yep, conveniently leave out that hoenn actually has the most megas, not kanto.

Hoenn didn't outnumber Kanto until the remakes.

>yep, conveniently leave out that the whole point of regional variants is that they're not kanto pokemon anymore.

A reskin of a Kanto Pokemon is still a Kanto Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:50:02 No.40417988 Report

Quoted By: >>40418010 >>40418253

>>40416484
>>Rainbow Rocket
yep, conveniently leave out that the other evil team members are involved.

>15 megas
yep, conveniently leave out that hoenn actually has the most megas, not kanto.

>23 regional variants/evolutions
yep, conveniently leave out that the whole point of regional variants is that they're not kanto pokemon anymore.

>>At least 6 gigantamax forms
yep, conveniently leave out that plenty of the new pokemon have gigantamax forms too.

You underagefags are retarded.

>>40417966
>MUH IDENTITEE
Yep, just conveniently ignore all the unique things Alola had going for it like the lack of a Gym system and just pretend it has "no identity" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean) just because a kanto pokemon exists in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:50:11 No.40417989 Report

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>>40417822
>Hoenn pandering in addition to Kanto pandering
Only when relevant to marketing the Hoenn remakes. Don't see any Hoenn pandering beyond Zigzagoon nowadays, do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:51:04 No.40417995 Report

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>>40417987
>until the remakes
The remakes that pander to HOENN and not Kanto?

>A reskin of a Kanto Pokemon is still a Kanto Pokemon
No. It's effectively a new Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:51:29 No.40417998 Report

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here comes yawnfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:52:04 No.40418005 Report

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>>40417966
>wooloo everywhere
>HURR NO IDENTITY

the second you retards mention "identity" I stop taking you seriously.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:52:38 No.40418010 Report

Quoted By: >>40418016

>>40417988
Check it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:53:30 No.40418016 Report

Quoted By: >>40418025

>>40418010
>p-please look at my strawgrasping and my delusion that pokemon being in a pokemon game = pandering!

No thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:54:29 No.40418025 Report

Quoted By: >>40418046

>>40418016
No one cares if they're in the game, the probem is when they overshadow the actual new Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:55:36 No.40418035 Report

Quoted By: >>40418073

>>40417981
>Rainbow rocket
Agree but they kinda fucked rocket over from being a mob to a multi-verse threat
>Megas
Only due to OrAs being a hoenn remake, in XY the majority of megas were from kanto and the only ones with two megas
>regional variants
The whole point is a "what if" design, why not do something that is no longer johto/hoenn/etc.?
>Gigantmax
Like the Z-moves in SM being only new and kanto further more at least three are wasted on NFEs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:57:25 No.40418046 Report

Quoted By: >>40418057

>>40418025
>the probem is when they overshadow the actual new Pokemon
Except they don't.

Were the starters Kanto Pokemon?
Was the thing in Lillie's bag a Kanto Pokemon?
Was the Pokemon Lusamine obsessed with a Kanto Pokemon?
Were the island guardians Kanto Pokemon?
Were the alien invasive species Kanto Pokemon?
Were those black things sitting on all the beaches Kanto Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 05:59:23 No.40418057 Report

Quoted By: >>40418073

>>40418046
You could barely fucking find most actual Alola Pokemon in the wild because they had stupidly low encounter rates

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:03:08 No.40418073 Report

Quoted By: >>40418082 >>40418087

>>40418035
>Only due to OrAs being a hoenn remake,
So Hoenn pandering and not Kanto pandering?

>The whole point is a "what if" design
Which only really works if people are already familiar with the old design, which means it's objectively better to do it with Kanto Pokemon because they're the most likely Pokemon people will already be familiar with.

>Like the Z-moves in SM being only new and kanto
How is this an issue? Would the game be higher quality if Mamoswine got a Z-move instead of Snorlax?

>>40418057
Woah so you actually need to try and experiment with different mechanics/going to different areas to find the new Pokemon so you're rewarded for doing things in the game instead of having all of them handed to you? How is this a bad thing again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:05:27 No.40418082 Report

Quoted By: >>40418102

>>40418073
Finding them has nothing to do with exploration, it's luck. Needing to go out of your way to find new Pokemon or hope you get lucky with a 1% encounter rate in a new Pokemon game is horrible game desgn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:06:41 No.40418087 Report

Quoted By: >>40418102

>>40418073
>Which only really works if people are already familiar with the old design, which means it's objectively better to do it with Kanto Pokemon because they're the most likely Pokemon people will already be familiar with.

Most of the current fanbase did not grow up with Kanto Pokemon. They have no nostalgia for Kanto, so the pandering does nothing for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:09:16 No.40418102 Report

Quoted By: >>40418124

>>40418082
>Finding them has nothing to do with exploration
I don't know anon, looping around into the optional Ten Carat Hill to find Rockruff or backtracking back to Melemele Island after getting Surf to find Mareanie seems like exploration to me.

>>40418087
>Most of the current fanbase did not grow up with Kanto Pokemon
Did you play literally anything other than pre-credits BW1? Yes? Then you grew up with Kanto Pokemon because they've shown up in every game due to being the first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:13:42 No.40418124 Report

Quoted By: >>40418158

>>40418102
Simply showing up in the games means nothing. Prior to Sword & Shield, every Pokemon technically "showed up" in every game after their debut.

Up until Gen 6, the new Pokemon were the ones who got most of the focus. Nowadays, they're overshadowed in their own games by KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. In older games, the Kanto Pokemon were just Pokemon. They weren't put on any kind of pedestal, they were just there and the people who wanted to catch and use them could, and the people who wanted to ignore them and focus on the new mons could. But now we have both excess Kanto pandering and a very small number of new Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:14:15 No.40418127 Report

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Did I miss some new leaks or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:20:21 No.40418158 Report

Quoted By: >>40418174

>>40418124
>Simply showing up in the games means nothing
Those newer Pokemon you keep begging to get forms "simply showed up in games."

>Up until Gen 6, the new Pokemon were the ones who got most of the focus
Gen 4 has fuck all new Pokemon that aren't just evolutions of old Pokemon and 90% of those evolutions are trapped in the post-game. Do you need to be reminded of how Ponyta was literally the only main game Fire-type apart from Chimchar?

>Nowadays, they're overshadowed in their own games
Nice meme. Tell me more about how Lillie actually had a Mew in her bag that whole time instead of Cosmog.

>Kanto Pokemon were just Pokemon
Yes. So you would have grown up with them. Thanks for agreeing.

>and focus on the new mons could
If you "grew up" with Gen 4 how would you know which Pokemon are new and which Pokemon aren't and why would it even matter when ALL of them would be new to you? You're full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:25:00 No.40418174 Report

Quoted By: >>40418274

>>40418158
>Do you need to be reminded of how Ponyta was literally the only main game Fire-type apart from Chimchar?

You can beat the main game just fine withut a Fire type on your team

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:40:41 No.40418253 Report

Quoted By: >>40418271 >>40418274

>>40417988
if you played USUM you would have noticed that the plot of RR was basically Giovanni pulled the bosses from their respective worlds, locked them and was planning to make them work for him keeping tabs on them with the help of Faba while the bosses were utterly confused and tried to make the best of the situation by figuring if there's a way to proceed with their plans. Only Ghetsis figured and planned to join and get closer to Giovanni to later backstab him.
On top of the villain of the generation being left comatose.
It was basically a "wow look how Giovanni is much better than everyone else" shitshow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:42:56 No.40418271 Report

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>>40418253
also Giovanni was basically the final boss of the game and is the only villain to appear in the Battle Agency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:43:14 No.40418274 Report

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>>40418174
You can also beat the game just fine without using new Pokemon.

>>40418253
>It was basically a "wow look how Giovanni is much better than everyone else" shitshow
So? The villains from each generation still got spotlight. If any of them are going to be the final boss it makes sense for it to be the one that defined what evil teams are in the first place. Is this the level of autism we're reduced to just so you can whine about """""""pandering"""""""?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:50:05 No.40418319 Report

Quoted By: >>40418381

>>40417966
Isn't the master-ball a secret prototype? Why is it on a fucking poster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 06:58:36 No.40418381 Report

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>>40418319
it's been years Master Ball is well known

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 09:19:24 No.40419272 Report

Quoted By: >>40419402

Sinnoh is the only region that did not do any Kanto pandering. While you had references (Oak's two appearances are the only I can recall) they were in level with Johto and Hoenn references.

Everything else either had blatant pandering or tried to be too similar (Unova in its Dex, Kalos in pretty much half the map)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 09:45:38 No.40419402 Report

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>>40419272
>Unova
>Kanto pandering in its dex
I am sick to death of this retarded meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 11:19:16 No.40419998 Report

Quoted By: >>40421827

>>40416484
Who the fuck even made this image

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 14:58:08 No.40421827 Report

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>>40419998
i have no idea

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