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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 21:52:07 No.40469522 View View Reply Original Report

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Why is it when GF innovates a gameplay feature for every new main game released, you all get mad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 21:53:05 No.40469533 Report

Quoted By: >>40470164

What's the source of that image

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 21:53:13 No.40469536 Report

Quoted By: >>40469604

>same game as always but one or two pokemon become the new meta dominants thanks to generic shitty gimmick of the current gen

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 21:53:39 No.40469539 Report

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 21:57:27 No.40469575 Report

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old good
new bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 21:59:11 No.40469591 Report

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>>40469522
>innovates a gameplay feature
Because that gameplay feature will at most last 2 games before being removed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:00:22 No.40469604 Report

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>>40469536
Are you talking about Tekken? Or MvC? Smash Bros? SF? Or literally any game with a "metagame"?

I can't tell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:02:10 No.40469625 Report

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>>40469522
>hey you know the feature you like in the previous gen? We removed it, instead enjoy this new and useless gimmick that we will stop doing in the next gen.
See the problem isn't the new feature, the problem is that they remove well liked feature from the previous gen to give us something that it's often worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:02:41 No.40469628 Report

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>>40469522
1 step forward, 4 steps back

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:04:39 No.40469650 Report

Quoted By: >>40469695

>>40469522
Because back in the day they didn't force new 'gameplay features' on you.

>Gen 3 doubles is introduced, but you can skip almost all of them is you want
>Gen 5 triples/rotation, but is never forced on you, completely optional
>Gen 6 mega evo completely centralizes the meta game - good luck running a team without a mega evolution, in addition to this you are more or less forced to use them in your normal playthrough
>Gen 7, same deal as with megas in gen 6, you have to use z-moves or lose

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:06:01 No.40469667 Report

Quoted By: >>40470064

>>40469522
Here it is! This is why most players love Black 2 and White 2! They are absolutely unique!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:09:03 No.40469695 Report

Quoted By: >>40470198

>>40469650
>>Gen 6 mega evo completely centralizes the meta game - good luck running a team without a mega evolution, in addition to this you are more or less forced to use them in your normal playthrough

I agree with most of your points but you can't list in-game stuff then complain about the online meta saying it's forced. Also there only one mega given to you in both XY, and ORAS and you can safely ignore them and almost all of the stones are post game in XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:09:28 No.40469702 Report

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>>40469522
that vibrator isn't for internal use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:10:28 No.40469715 Report

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>>40469522
I unironically liked to play the "almost-the-same-game" every gen.

A new big change like megas were souldn't happen in every fucking gen. Especially if they end up wiping out the previous "big" change.

One-time gimmicks are bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:12:16 No.40469744 Report

Quoted By: >>40469850

>>40469522

need a source on that gif

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:22:39 No.40469850 Report

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>>40469744
https://myanimelist.net/anime/8101/HenSemi

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:25:14 No.40469881 Report

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>>40469850

Thanks mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:33:04 No.40469974 Report

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>>40469539
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:34:44 No.40469995 Report

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>>40469522
Because they remove everything else for it. A gimmick that will then be removed but we won’t get anything removed for the sake of that removed gimmick back. There’s just less and less content each game, keeps getting worse and worse. I didn’t think Galar could be as bad as SM but maybe .

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:40:49 No.40470064 Report

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>>40469667
Good image, only thing it's missing is Pokéathalon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:47:15 No.40470149 Report

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>>40469522
Gamefreak innovates? Where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:48:12 No.40470164 Report

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>>40469533
Hen Zemi

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:51:26 No.40470195 Report

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>>40469522
GF removes more than "innovates", furthermore all their new features (like the wild area for example) are half baked and not intergrated properly. New battle gimmicks like Z-Moves and Gigtantmax end up just being a brand new vehicle for promoting Gen 1 again. Nothing they do seems to be handled with finesse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:51:30 No.40470198 Report

Quoted By: >>40470247

>>40469695
Because he mentioned the overall meta he'd lose his standing. The official meta is doubles and has been since gen 3, and the smaller gimmicks like weather and entry hazards that were introduced in those gens did dominate the meta and they still dominate the meta.

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:55:22 No.40470247 Report

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>>40470198
Megas overcentralized the doubles meta too though?

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Anonymous Mon 21 Oct 2019 22:55:45 No.40470252 Report

Quoted By: >>40471340 >>40471412

>>40469522
>shitting a new useless battle gimmick that they'll cancel in the next gen
>innovation

Yeah nah
Btw battles are fine as they are.
What GF should imprive is the world outside of battles.
Make the overworld large and organic, allow the player to take his pokemon out at any moment, to ride them, to shoulder them, to make them dig, fetch berries....etc.
Allow the player to swim, jump, climb...etc
Give the NPCS actual life cycles, give them interactions with the player (like followers in Skyrim)...etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2019 00:21:57 No.40471340 Report

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>>40470252
/thread

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Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2019 00:26:04 No.40471400 Report

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>>40469522
Why is it Einstein had to die and faggots like OP are allowed to live?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2019 00:26:58 No.40471412 Report

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>>40470252
I don't understand GF's incessant desire to "improve" battles with new gimmicks. It's a huge waste of time. If they want to improve it, introduce new moves, types, etc. The rest of the game is what needs the majority of updates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2019 00:27:29 No.40471418 Report

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>>40470247
And? I didn't deny that. The point was that the other gimmicks or features introduced didn't disrupt the meta as a whole but they did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2019 01:16:52 No.40472021 Report

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>>40469522
Because it might be something that is unnecessary (like Pokemon Amie) and cause a couple things to be removed in order to make time to implement the new thing (weather cycle, day/night cycle, Battle Frontier, ect). If GameFreak just added instead of removing things to add less, people wouldn't be angry.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2019 01:17:49 No.40472034 Report

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>>40469522
> Why is it when GF innovates a gameplay feature for every new main game released, you all get mad?

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Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2019 01:18:59 No.40472045 Report

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i love me some innovation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Oct 2019 01:29:03 No.40472152 Report

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>>40469522
because they keep taking out that I enjoy and replacing them with stupid things I do not enjoy.

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