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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 01:28:36 No.40570237 View View Reply Original Report

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Reminder that this is the REAL reason why there's no NatDex for SwSh and why there won't ever be again. They want to sell Home subscriptions plain and simple, which in turn incentivizes you to buy every game if you really want to catch them all and hold onto your bros.

Whichever of you are planning on becoming HomeFags, you are part of the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 01:33:29 No.40570328 Report

Quoted By: >>40570359 >>40570384

>>40570237

>keep current mons on your 3DS cart of choice
>keep new mons on whatever cart you get them on
>keep everything
>don't have to pay for Home

There

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 01:34:13 No.40570343 Report

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I preordered Pokemon Home

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 01:35:15 No.40570359 Report

Quoted By: >>40572274

>>40570328
Except eventually wifi will be discontinued for those games retard.
>WELL I'LL JUST PAY FOR ONE SUB AND MOVE THEM THEN
Enjoy your ONE YEAR subscription, which is exactly what they want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 01:36:24 No.40570384 Report

Quoted By: >>40570735

>>40570328
This desu
If you can only transfer Pokemon in the regional dex, that means you can catch them in the region. But if you can just catch them in the region, why transfer at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:00:35 No.40570735 Report

Quoted By: >>40570780 >>40570807

>>40570384
You do the transfer to get a head start on breeding with some IV'd/Egg Move Mons or if you hack you can just drop whole teams into the game. You do the transfer to get your mons out of the 3ds system before they eventually shut down the bank. I bet if the home doesnt get enough subs were gonna hear about a necessity to close down functionality early because they need the space and resources to make home the game next gen service we've been waiting for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:02:32 No.40570752 Report

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>>40570237
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:04:51 No.40570780 Report

Quoted By: >>40570803 >>40570815

>>40570735
If they'll cut Pokemon, they'd cut anything. What makes you think breeding and IVs are permeant features?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:07:28 No.40570803 Report

Quoted By: >>40570815 >>40572112

>>40570780

You're right. Is ditto even confirmed? I could also see them do some bullshit like making that transfer mons aren't allowed in the daycare or something. If there is even a day care too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:07:46 No.40570807 Report

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>>40570735
>head start
But it comes out next year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:08:48 No.40570815 Report

Quoted By: >>40570858

>>40570780
>>40570803
Oh ok, you're just idiots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:10:48 No.40570839 Report

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>>40570237
>trap.png
The real question is, why can't these people just upgrade Bank and release version for Switch? Bank can handle 6th and 7th gen, I can't imagine it couldn't handle 8th. It already runs on different versions of 3DS family, and can also accept transfers from VC and 5th gen. It all seems so pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:12:37 No.40570858 Report

Quoted By: >>40570962 >>40572046 >>40575256

>>40570815
They put out a game without breeding, abilities, wild encounters, held items, etc, and people bought the shit out of it. Previous games have IV boosting. They have already refered to a way to replace moves for free (replacing tutore/deleter), changing nature's, why can you not imagine a game in the future where you can just swap abilities and enhance IVs and learn egg moves instead of including breeding? Things have only gotten simpler and easier since the early gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:12:42 No.40570861 Report

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>>40570237
Which is funny because they'll get rid of the service in a few years and it'll get replaced by something else, just like with Pokemon Bank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:15:43 No.40570912 Report

Quoted By: >>40570944 >>40570990 >>40576381 >>40577188

>>40570237
>subscription plans
There hasn't been any announced retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:18:40 No.40570944 Report

Quoted By: >>40570982 >>40572617

>>40570912
Bank costs money, Home certainly will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:19:58 No.40570962 Report

Quoted By: >>40570992

>>40570858
everything you said is just music in the ears of competitive players. I'm hype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:21:00 No.40570982 Report

Quoted By: >>40571008 >>40571120 >>40576808

>>40570944
>5$ for a year
>free if you have nintendo online sub.
it's perfect as fug + it will 1000% be way better than bank, probably like ranch+box.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:21:59 No.40570990 Report

Quoted By: >>40573826

>>40570912
during that press conference back in June they said it will be a service similar to bank, so I dont think its totally wrong to think it'll be a similar subscription based model

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:21:59 No.40570991 Report

Quoted By: >>40571132

>tfw you have to pay for Bank to store your 3DS mon and pay for Home to put them there
Bros.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:22:02 No.40570992 Report

Quoted By: >>40571038 >>40572291

>>40570962
They might as well just put a showdown equivalent in at that point, but that would be too much work.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:23:06 No.40571008 Report

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>>40570982

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:25:09 No.40571038 Report

Quoted By: >>40571134

>>40570992
well, you still have to catch,evolve and train them + the battles look better, it still feels more fun with your "own" pokemon. I play showdown/netbattle and all those old emulators and I'm pretty good, but I still prefer offline and wifi battles over showdown. normies will also not complain too much about pkhex users anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:33:23 No.40571120 Report

Quoted By: >>40572869

>>40570982

>free if you have nintendo online sub

Got a source on that? Home would be a given for me if true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:34:51 No.40571132 Report

Quoted By: >>40571152

>>40570991
Home is attached to nintendo online dumb dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:35:04 No.40571134 Report

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>>40571038
I wish I knew someone who would battle offline, I've assumed that's the best form. Online is such a shitty role of the dice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:35:38 No.40571142 Report

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>>40570237
i just won't buy it, that will show the fucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:36:06 No.40571152 Report

Quoted By: >>40571878

>>40571132
So $20 a year

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 02:37:17 No.40571164 Report

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i didn't pay for bank and i wont pay for this Jewish shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:34:58 No.40571878 Report

Quoted By: >>40571901 >>40572876

>>40571152
>20$ a year for free games, 1 year of online play + home for up to 8 (EIGHT) people.
you get that from sony for a month for 1 person. how poor can someone be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:35:22 No.40571882 Report

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>>40570237
sticky this shit mootykins!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:37:11 No.40571901 Report

Quoted By: >>40572128

>>40571878
I don't pay for any gaming online, that console cuck behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:50:14 No.40572046 Report

Quoted By: >>40572090 >>40572099 >>40572306 >>40572760

>>40570858
I'd honestly be happy if IVs were gone. Natures being passed with Everstone/Synchronize, EVs being visible in the status window, and having access to Ability Capsule are amazing features. Having to level up to 100 and use extremely limited items just to boost a hidden value is extremely annoying. I would also appreciate a "Hidden Ability Capsule" or something like that to get Hidden Abilities, but those being extremely rare or easier to breed would make thing quite better. Besides, the value people always look for is either 0, 30 or 31 for Hidden Power or stuff like Gyro Ball.
They could also rework the Hidden Power formula to make Hidden Power Fairy a thing, and make it passable trough breeding with a Plate, Berry, Z-Crystal or something like that.
Breeding would still be used to get baby forms, egg moves, custom Pokeballs, nicknames, and shiny hunting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:50:25 No.40572050 Report

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>>40570237
It's unfortunate that this is surrounded by all of the SwSh bullshit. I really liked the idea of being able to trade Pokémon through my phone. Hopefully things will change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:53:29 No.40572090 Report

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>>40572046
>HP type passed through Plates
Holy fucking based
Iwao, hire this man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:54:20 No.40572099 Report

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>>40572046
I hated IVs initially, but once I have a 6 IV ditto it became almost trivial. That being said, they don't really add much "gameplay" that isn't already there rolling for other aspects of breeding. If they made hidden power based on most recent berry eaten or some shit it would be alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:55:35 No.40572112 Report

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>>40570803
>Is ditto even confirmed?
yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 03:56:59 No.40572128 Report

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>>40571901
Then keep playing on pc and stop complaining?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 04:12:18 No.40572274 Report

Quoted By: >>40573932

>>40570359
by the time wifi is discontinued there will already be offline alternatives

see: pksm, pkhex

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 04:13:37 No.40572291 Report

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>>40570237
inb4 pokemon home is free
>>40570992
bro just have nintendo buy showdown lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 04:15:18 No.40572306 Report

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>>40572046
>not listing 29 for optimal life orb recoil
cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 04:51:05 No.40572617 Report

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>>40570944
Home isn't bank though. It seems to also be combined with dream world

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 04:51:40 No.40572624 Report

Quoted By:

>>40570237
Idc I never caught them all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 05:08:09 No.40572760 Report

Quoted By: >>40572805

>>40572046
EVs, IVs and natures are all just a failed experiment that has lasted too long. I hope they scrap it all and either make a completely new system or nothing at all. 95 percent of pokemon are only viable and used with one combination of the above mechanics; this is not my idea of customization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 05:14:05 No.40572805 Report

Quoted By: >>40572851

>>40572760

I get the reasoning behind IV being the Pokémon "genes", i.e. what makes one different than the other. It was Tajiri's idea after all, to make every critter feel unique. But as soon as breeding came along and everyone and their mom knew about these values, they lost their point since everyone aims for 0 or 31 anyway.
They should just remove IV and natures altogether, rework the system so you only have EVs, that's enough customization already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 05:18:29 No.40572834 Report

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Online play should give the option to temporarily max out IVs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 05:20:31 No.40572851 Report

Quoted By: >>40573914

>>40572805
I agree but I think EVs need reworking too. For example the mechanic pigeonholes most offensive pokemon into becoming a pure physical or special attacker (with the rest of the EVs in speed). It's boring imo. Very rarely are EVs not a case of speed/choice of offense and HP/choice of defense. I love customization in RPGs above anything else and I just think theres more potential for the stat system in something like pokemon than this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 05:22:36 No.40572869 Report

Quoted By: >>40572883

>>40571120
seems plausible, imagine having to pay for both bank and home just to transfer from bank to home

but it's gamefreak so...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 05:23:39 No.40572876 Report

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>>40571878
yeah but do pokemon still disappear if your subscription runs out lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 05:24:42 No.40572883 Report

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>>40572869
>but it's gamefreak so...
Exactly.
If they're forcing you to cough up sixty bucks for a single Gigantamax, who says they won't make you do what you said?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 05:35:53 No.40572949 Report

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>>40570237
This should be obvious, especially since two of the Gigantamax forms in SwSh are locked behind separate software. GameFreak and TPC are just greedy.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 07:49:13 No.40573775 Report

Quoted By: >>40573847

>>40570237
Hello

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 07:59:42 No.40573826 Report

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>>40570990
So you're doomposting off total speculation? I hate this board so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 08:03:18 No.40573847 Report

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>>40573775
>Let's Go Johto
Doesn't exist. Anon was just a sonyshill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 08:15:43 No.40573914 Report

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>>40572851
They could do skill trees for learning moves and getting bonuses for stats. Maybe make it so breeding can unlock additional or alternative branches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 08:22:19 No.40573932 Report

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>>40572274
There already is an offline alternative pkhex already works with switch games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 12:29:59 No.40575199 Report

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>>40570237
GF can redeem itself if it makes a wide variety of fun party games which allow you to use your Pokemon from Home. Their stats/moveset could determine their usefulness in the various games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 12:37:35 No.40575256 Report

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>>40570858
>They put out a game without breeding, abilities, wild encounters, held items, etc
yeah and it was still and fun game, but besides that, they don't have plans to make any more, and all of the things that weren't in that game are in the new games. It's a complete nonissue

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 14:47:04 No.40576381 Report

Quoted By: >>40577223

>>40570912
>stands in the road in front of a semi truck
>"IT HASNT HIT ME YET, NOBODY KNOWS IF IT WILL ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING HARMFUL"

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 15:33:05 No.40576808 Report

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>>40570982
>free if you have nintendo online sub.
Good gullible goy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 16:06:34 No.40577188 Report

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>>40570912
>stands in the road in front of a semi truck
>"IT HASNT HIT ME YET, NOBODY KNOWS IF IT WILL ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING HARMFUL"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 16:07:50 No.40577206 Report

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>semi truck analogies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 16:09:26 No.40577223 Report

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>>40576381
what a shitty fucking comparison, holy shit

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