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Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:16:35 No.40617621 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>40617884 >>40617925 >>40619483 >>40619627 >>40619734 >>40620092 >>40621810

Why is everything remotely mature "edgy" to you?
The games are aimed at kids, is ok for an adult who likes the concept of pokémon to wish for something more akin to the manga
If you're ok with the power of friendship and the joy of sharing a malasada kind of bullshit that means you're a manchild

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:18:03 No.40617632 Report

Quoted By: >>40617852 >>40621812

then read the manga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:38:45 No.40617844 Report

Quoted By: >>40617867

It's a franchise aimed at children, you are a manchild if you expect it to be mature. Read a book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:39:18 No.40617852 Report

Quoted By: >>40621812

>>40617632
Not OP but fuck the manga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:40:22 No.40617867 Report

Quoted By: >>40618325

>>40617844
Kids like more mature shit. Makes it cooler. Making the games as babyish as the nu-gens have been is just patronizing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:42:20 No.40617884 Report

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>>40617621
What are you even talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:47:21 No.40617925 Report

Quoted By: >>40618005

>>40617621
Are you talking about wanting serious rivals (assuming you were referring to Hau)? I agree, and we've got Bede and Marnie.

Otherwise there's nothing wrong or immature with "the power of friendship" being a theme. Hell, look at fucking Lord of the Rings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:48:42 No.40617938 Report

Quoted By: >>40617944

If you think something written for teenagers is mature, there really is no hope for you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:49:54 No.40617944 Report

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>>40617938
no u

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 10:56:10 No.40618005 Report

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>>40617925
Like... recent Pokemon games have a man trying to genocide a region, and an abusive mother fusing with a space jellyfish. If you look at the Gen 7 manga, its a clusterfuck because Gen 7 has so many characters and plot elements that trying to give it 'the manga treatment' no longer works.

Besides, true maturity is different from what most of vp seems to think it means

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 11:01:47 No.40618068 Report

Quoted By: >>40618080

That's what makes Kanto better in this regard. Asshole trainer, nothing Is handed to you, you are left there alone exploring by yourself and taking down a criminal organization while the rival Is there to battle you at the most inconvenient of times and doesnt heal you after.
Plus the whole story of Lavender Tower being infested by ghost Marowak cause she got murdered by TeamRocket. Its mature enough without being "inappropriate" or unnecessarily edgy.
There are other games when the bad guys intentions are even worse but theres this whole shonen vibe where everyone around you sucks your dick for being the chosen one and its just unrealistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 11:02:50 No.40618080 Report

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>>40618068
I meant asshole rival

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 11:37:22 No.40618325 Report

Quoted By: >>40618510

>>40617867
This is what I don't understand:
Kids today think everything in black and red is "cool" only retard there are shocked by this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 12:06:01 No.40618510 Report

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>>40618325
In their minds the primary target for the games are kids who barely learnt how to read. And It makes sense since they have to push merchandise. Veteran fans are just a surplus.They even said in an interview they refrained to give LGPE a more mature look cause they wanted to make sure parents looking at their kids playing at the TV immediately recognized the game as Kids friendly. People with this mindset will never take the risk of developing a "mature" game. Im not even sure they would be capable of doing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 14:00:24 No.40619483 Report

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>>40617621
The manga just doesn't capture the same spirit the games have always had.

It's about not screwing with shit people like the way it is.

As someone who works for a company who went through that kind of growing pain (started with mostly kids but now many of us are early 30s at best) it just makes them shit to do that.

There is generally more that can be done, don't get me wrong. People think really low on the totem pole when making games primarily for kids, but as a writer for them, I know for a fact you can actually get away with a fair amount of shit and get no higher than an E10+ (though Pokémon does aim for a straight E so some of that is cut) but you have to toe the line and not screw with what exists that people like either.

Again, just like with actionfags if you want a heavily serious game then your only proper options are to request a side series for it or to just play something else.

You don't try to ruin shit for people who do like it since you are the one with the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 14:14:04 No.40619627 Report

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>>40617621
That’s the problem OP you are asking Gamefreak to do more when they can and will do less and shills will defend them no matter what.
Remember Az? Mewtwo the movie? The first Charmander episode?
None of them do…

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Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 14:23:55 No.40619734 Report

Quoted By: >>40621812

>>40617621
>akin to the manga
the manga is generic edgy as fuck, with boring storylines only good for 12-13 year olds, people older than that find it extremely cringy
I much more prefer an overall childish experience like mario which is aimed at kids but can also be enjoyed by adults than if they try to have the same sonic-level mature appeal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 14:55:40 No.40620092 Report

Quoted By: >>40621812

>>40617621
>"The" manga
>Mature

Anon, there are probably 100+ different manga in the history of Pokémon, from 4koma strips in guidebooks to movie tie-ins to those ones that promote spin-offs. And none of them are "mature". Every last one is written for kids. Just because Special has an Arbok being cut in half or frozen Magmar being shattered, that doesn't make it mature.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 16:59:40 No.40621810 Report

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>>40617621
> why does my children's game have content for children?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 16:59:50 No.40621812 Report

Quoted By: >>40622080

>>40617632
>>40617852
>>40619734
>>40620092
>Still seethe over the edge shit in the first fucking arc
>Ignore the massive improvements in the arc after along with several of the arcs that came after
The GSC, FRLG, Emerald, and Platinum arcs>Anything within the anime after Gen 2.
I rather have actual developing character over SOL bullcrap.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 17:16:24 No.40622080 Report

Quoted By: >>40622365

>>40621812
i don't see what twisted world you live it that doesn't see gym leaders being hanged by crosses as not being edgy but okay
point is, its not mature nor thought provocative, it's just like any other battle shonen, infested with strategic battle junk food and shock value to keep teenagers interested

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 17:31:10 No.40622365 Report

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>>40622080
Whatever Anon. I'm not claiming it's a masterpiece or should be the lead Pokemon material or whatever, but i'm just saying that people that criticize it's narrative never provide a better example within the Pokemon media or people like you who just take a few bad panels meme'd across /vp/ and /a/ and think that represents the entire series. It still has battles that actually stay true the the game's mechanics and some fun characters/pokemon.

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