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Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:46:11 No.40714242 View View Reply Original Report

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What went wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:47:00 No.40714267 Report

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Pokemon has international popularity while Yokai Watch failed to make a splash outside of Japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:47:01 No.40714268 Report

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Literally everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:47:33 No.40714292 Report

Quoted By: >>40714381

Level-5 neglecting Inazuma Eleven, a series that didn't have to compete with Pokemon and brought profits, just to have their 5 minutes of fame with Yokai Watch.

Now both are almost dead because of their terrible handling. Gee, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:47:34 No.40714293 Report

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doesn't have the cultural phenomenon factor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:47:43 No.40714296 Report

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>>40714242
pokemon got big first game in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:48:06 No.40714306 Report

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>>40714267
It fizzled out in Japan as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:48:46 No.40714319 Report

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>>40714242
It was never good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:48:46 No.40714320 Report

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the simple fact that most yokai aren't cool enough for kids, they all look goofy

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Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:48:46 No.40714322 Report

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>>40714242
It's not...KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:49:10 No.40714333 Report

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>>40714242

You posting this shit on /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:49:18 No.40714343 Report

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>>40714242
Design with poor spirituality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:49:57 No.40714365 Report

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>>40714242
a lot of things, especially recolors and befriending system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:50:15 No.40714380 Report

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>>40714242
Games are shit, it has no real enduring meta game content.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:50:24 No.40714381 Report

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>>40714292
it took forever to localize 3 they're so focus on yokai watch that they had to bring back to the PlayStation because yk4 was selling bad right now only smash ultimate could increase the selling of their game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:51:12 No.40714415 Report

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>>40714242
The fact that catching yokai was rng was pretty stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:52:21 No.40714462 Report

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>>40714242
Hasbo completely misjudged what toys would be popular
Disney tried to retool the anime partway through to make it feel more like 90s Pokémon
Nintendo decided to localize the first game when YW2 was already out and better in almost every way
Every news site tried to bill it as a Pokémon killer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:52:24 No.40714467 Report

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>>40714242
They hitched their IP to Pokemon so hard that it basically became known as "bootleg Pokemon". They should have made it it's own thing and developed their own dedicated fanbase but instead they wanted the big bucks by going directly for the Pokemon fanbase and trying to convert them to Yokai Watch fans.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:52:44 No.40714476 Report

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>>40714242
You.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:52:58 No.40714484 Report

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>>40714242
If I had to take a guess, lame as shit monster designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:53:53 No.40714523 Report

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>>40714242

An identity crisis; it didn't know what it wanted to be. Did it want to be a monster catching game? Did it want to be a parody of monster catching game with weird pop culture references? Did it want to be semi-serious like Digimon sometimes does?

Also the mere fact that it was proudly declaring itself as "The thing that will kill Pokemon" gave it a sour taste in the West as "Off-brand Pokemon", while Digimon despite sharing almost the same name managed to give itself its own identity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:53:55 No.40714525 Report

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>>40714242
Crashed at first hurdle way behind even Digimon let alone Pokemon.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:53:57 No.40714527 Report

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>>40714242

It wasn't that long ago this franchise's shills were claiming "YW2 sold just as well as Pokémon ORAS in Japan!"

Now YW4 has sold 300,000 lifetime in Japan. I'm going to go ahead and guess Sword and Shield will beat that dramatically.

This shit fizzled out fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:54:31 No.40714553 Report

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A lot of the designs were quirky or interesting but the actual core gameplay was just a complete drag compared to Pokémon. Pokémon always succeeded over most similar franchises because it excels at being deceptively simple and accessible while still being an engaging RPG experience. The mechanics of YW in particular just didn't have that same pull or personal punch that Pokémon has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:55:07 No.40714578 Report

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>>40714242
Because it's stupid content without passion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:55:21 No.40714589 Report

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>>40714242
tons of recolors
most of the recolors are of shitty uncreative designs in the first place
tons of heavy handed japanese folklore references
different tone, less fantasy, more real-worldy, more obvious joke shitmons, kinda like digimon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:58:19 No.40714716 Report

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School children design appeal is always hit or miss because their focus can shift all too quick and the goofiness will keep teens and adults away
It's built too steep in a culture it makes no attempt to explain to outsiders. I'm sure poopoo toilet monsters are funny for japanese kids who grow up with them, but nobody knows what these mons are based on outside of that

And most importantly: Games suck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:58:20 No.40714717 Report

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>>40714381
>only smash ultimate could increase the selling of their game
>DQ11 sells on Switch haven't been any better than the PS4 or PC releases
Suuuuurrrrreeeee

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:58:27 No.40714728 Report

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The art direction just couldn't compete considering it's literal ass https://youtu.be/6wn8DwZl9Pc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:59:38 No.40714773 Report

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I think the issue is that Pokemon's core audience in Japan is REALLY young. Like kindergarten and early grade school young. In the west, it was usually targeted at the 9-12 demograph. Pokemon's designs have a wide enough appeal that they could do that. In the west they also tried to directly compete with Pokemon, but it was just too damn childish to have any appeal to the 9-12 crowd.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 17:59:44 No.40714780 Report

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>>40714589
Except joke shitmons in digimon are quarantined to a certain section of the digivolution process and can actually become cool things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 18:00:09 No.40714794 Report

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>>40714476

Why does he keep posting this thread? I feel I've seen this same image and same thread simultaneously cross-posted on /v/ and /vp/ numerous times now.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 18:01:10 No.40714835 Report

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Pokefags SEETHING

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Anonymous Sun 03 Nov 2019 18:01:27 No.40714844 Report

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If they didn’t limit themselves to Asian folklore monsters only, maybe the international market would’ve liked it better.

Anonymous

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