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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:20:18 No.40770875 View View Reply Original Report

Why was GO such a massive success while Masters floundered after a week?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:20:58 No.40770901 Report

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>>40770875
Go was fun Masters was not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:21:12 No.40770907 Report

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>>40770875
Evidently the Pokemon are a lot more interesting than the trainers. Also the game doesn't have good enough gameplay to facilitate sticking around for the waifus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:21:38 No.40770920 Report

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GO is a unique game that captures normies and autists alike, Masters is a dime-a-dozen gacha that appeals to an audience that mostly hates it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:21:39 No.40770922 Report

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>>40770875
Pokemon what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:22:24 No.40770951 Report

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>>40770901
FPBP

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:22:48 No.40770972 Report

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I played for about an hour of tutorials and didn't even get to the gatcha part before I got bored and quit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:23:36 No.40770999 Report

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>>40770875
I watched the trailer, saw triple battles and already hated it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:24:25 No.40771027 Report

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Triple battles and dumb duo shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:25:23 No.40771061 Report

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>>40770875
lack of content shitty release, game isnt bad it just got a trash start

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:26:01 No.40771081 Report

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>>40770875
Masters is a boring and greedy game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:26:42 No.40771099 Report

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I can't stand mobile games that split what would be a level or mission in a normal game into five-or-so seperate levels with them mainly being dialouge and the last one is finally actual gameplay. Masters, Kingdom Hearts, that new Digimon one, etc.

Also all the "banner" shit they do and LARGE EXCITING TEXT!! everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:27:51 No.40771154 Report

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GO is a unique game that appealed to boomers and zoomers alike. it's not as strong as it was in 2016 but it's still very active. niantic needed time but eventually they grew comfortable with the pokémon IP, providing regular support and new content to the game

masters is a shitty gacha (because the mobage market definitely has no shortage of those and can absolutely support another one) that banked on appealing to gambling junkies and waifufags, thinking it'd be as easy as giving them a cute rosa trailer. when they didn't bite the game fizzled and evaporated. i expect service termination by june 2020

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:29:34 No.40771232 Report

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>>40771099
there are great mobage out there like brave exvius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:29:38 No.40771233 Report

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Dena should’ve done the game more like record keeper, where the characters are unlocked through gameplay and the pokemon(equipment) is summoned through gacha. So you can pair any pokey with whatever trainer you want rather than this syncpair shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:33:11 No.40771396 Report

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>>40770875
>gameplay is just not that fun
>free gem payouts are incredibly stingy, even hardcore gacha veterans put off
>shit banners, hardly any characters people really want so far
>event, mission and pvp structures are all shit and way too grindy for the average person, and again with shit gem payouts for the effort

The character stories and interactions were neat but the game is so bad in every other aspect it's just not worth anyone's time.

Go is a shit game too but it's still better than Masters and also specifically targeted all the existing Go fans with similar mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:34:30 No.40771439 Report

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>>40770922
Pokemon who

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:47:05 No.40771980 Report

Quoted By: >>40773462

>so dead they can’t keep the general alive
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:48:06 No.40772019 Report

Quoted By: >>40772380

>>40770875
Because one appeals to normies and the other is a cheap money grab waifu gacha simulator with no content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 15:56:31 No.40772380 Report

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>>40772019
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:19:40 No.40773462 Report

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>>40771980
>n-no bro it's only dead cause it's leak season!!
>nobody has bothered to make a new thread for the general after the last one died after less than 200 posts
J U S T
I hope all the whales who kept defending the terrible state of this game can still justify their sunk cost fallacy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:21:43 No.40773575 Report

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Masters is dope but it is not as engaging. you also can't just pick it up and play really quick - the entire game is like a giant cutscene.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:33:32 No.40774161 Report

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>>40770875
>GO pandered to nostalgia faggotry
>Masters pandered to waifu neets
>GO could be played with most phones even if it meant sacrificing AR
>Masters barred at least 60% of the potential playerbase by making the game run only on 64bit phones
>GO has an unique, yet simple gameplay
>Masters is just another gacha
And this is coming from someone that hates GO and wanted Masters to be good.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:35:56 No.40774277 Report

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It's almost a dating sim but isn't. Meaning it scares away the normie fans but doesn't do enough to draw in NEETs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:36:18 No.40774295 Report

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the only good part of masters is the fact that it has good 3D models of a lot of the characters
the rest of it can burn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:37:25 No.40774342 Report

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>>40770875
Go was actually a fun concept, I'd be playing it if it had normal combat.
Masters was just terrible gachashit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:37:28 No.40774346 Report

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>>40770901
basically this

Go had infinite content because the game was about socializing and going places

Masters had no content at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:37:35 No.40774355 Report

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Go was a success because it was focused on capturing Pokemon in the real world with an AR camera. If it was just a static Pokemon gacha it would have died out like all the other Pokemon mobile games.

Meanwhile Masters is built around a portion of the franchise that TPC has all but ignored until more recently. Do you really expect normies to crowd to a game featuring trainers? Especially trainers they've never heard of like Thornton?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:37:52 No.40774369 Report

Quoted By: >>40774478

Masters flopping is the best thing that could happen to the series. I'm glad it bombed Because now we'll see other spinoffs again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:38:02 No.40774373 Report

Quoted By: >>40775848

>>40770875
Waifufags don't play games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:40:15 No.40774478 Report

Quoted By: >>40776133

>>40774369
It's not the first Pokemon mobile game to bomb. I'm upset it bombed though because it might give TPC the idea that fans don't want to see key characters outside of their introductory games. I really want to see these characters more often in things.

FoidFag

FoidFag Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:40:35 No.40774496 Report

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>>40770875
It runs like shit, pay to play, and is really boring. At least with PoGo when you’re out with friends you can go hunting or just pop it open ever once and awhile to catch something.

There doin a great job adding features and trying to maintain it. I can’t wait to see more things added to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:44:15 No.40774654 Report

Quoted By: >>40775337

>>40770875
>shit drop rates even for a gacha game
>poor in-game currency pricing even for a gacha game
>bare bones game

VS

>HEY GUYS, REMEMBER POKEMON?
>POKEMON IS BACK, YOU GUYS!
>GOTTA CATCH EM ALL

How is this even a question? Go is a much better game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 16:59:55 No.40775337 Report

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>>40774654
the "pricing" is pretty industry standard, the problem comes from fact that they barely give you shit ingame. not counting the apologems and the current 300 gems every day limited login bonus, after doing the story content, you get enough gems from dailies for one roll every 3.5 days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:03:50 No.40775493 Report

Quoted By: >>40775813

>>40770875
Masters has no content and the writing is insufferable. Nearly every character has the same personality and talks to you like you are watching Blue's Clues. Barebones repetitive events, not even Halloween special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:05:59 No.40775571 Report

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>>40770875
This is what happens when you make pokemon games that focus less on pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:10:12 No.40775738 Report

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>>40770875
idk if the people calling it a waifu game played it, but the game doesn't even try to be that. The moment they showed your character was a kid and every single character talks to you as talking with a child it was clear it wasn't and dead on arrival. It doesn't even have some kind fo private conversations or meetings with your faves like Fire Emblem 3H.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:11:24 No.40775786 Report

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>>40770875
The social aspect of go was pretty important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:12:09 No.40775813 Report

Quoted By: >>40778143

>>40775493
>Nearly every character has the same personality and talks to you like you are watching Blue's Clues.
welcome to character collecting gacha

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:12:14 No.40775823 Report

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>>40770875
>Kotaku
>Polygon
kys
But that aside, Masters might have soul but being gachashit means it has a lot of pitfalls. Go on the other hand not only targets a much larger playerbase but is also "unique" and fun to play casually even if it doesn't have much of a point

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:12:27 No.40775835 Report

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Cause masters is pay to win

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:12:49 No.40775848 Report

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>>40774373
How does Fate do it then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:14:43 No.40775936 Report

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>>40770875
It‘s a Pokémon game. I wanna battle and not tap through hours of boring dialogue before I can start a new chapter with even more dialogue and finally 1-3 battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:18:49 No.40776133 Report

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>>40774478
This

The only reason masters flopping is bad is because Gamefreak/Pokemon Company are going to learn the wrong lessons.

It's like fucking clockwork, and it's tiring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:31:54 No.40776752 Report

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1. Every human character in pokemon is the same one note cheerful archetype, the only thing that ever distinguished one gym leader from the next were surface level shit like appearance and their team, but half the gym leaders in Masters aren't even using their ace

2. Most of the characters are between 10-16 years old and they have to appeal to murricans so they can't do the usual gachashit tactic of putting out a bunch of microbikini waifu alts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:58:24 No.40778143 Report

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>>40775813
Fate and GBF says hi

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 17:59:58 No.40778223 Report

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masters was absolute trash, the worst gameplay I've seen in an rpg gatcha, the least exciting pulls, and basically no reason to keep playing beyond the first chapter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 18:01:39 No.40778292 Report

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>>40770875
Masters is a shitty waifu sim in addition to just being a bad game

Go's core gameplay is very similar to the main games with AR features to boot, and at this point you could actually argue it's surpassed the main games in some ways

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 18:02:29 No.40778327 Report

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>>40770875
Masters is a cash grab and everyone who downloaded it is a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 18:03:00 No.40778356 Report

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>>40770875
Mastera doesn't work in half of the phones in the market for some reasonm I still haven't played it and I want to

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 18:04:07 No.40778417 Report

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I really like Masters battle, its a fun new take on basic battling, but its just another gacha game. The game looks fun, but most of the characters are basically p2w

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2019 18:09:18 No.40778711 Report

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