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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:46:24 No.40850017 View View Reply Original Report

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I estimate his BST to be:
85 HP
125 Attack
75 Defence
95 Special Attack
75 Special Defense
145 Speed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:47:48 No.40850071 Report

Quoted By: >>40855615

>>40850017
>125 Attack
>145 Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:48:53 No.40850109 Report

Quoted By: >>40850138 >>40850150 >>40851141

>>40850017
>above 100 speed
Lol u wish

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:49:34 No.40850138 Report

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>>40850109
U can see the other thread, he has more than 100

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:49:39 No.40850145 Report

Quoted By: >>40850210 >>40850238

>>40850017
Special defense is probably closer to 85 and speed to 135

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:49:46 No.40850150 Report

Quoted By: >>40850220 >>40850247 >>40850302 >>40850517 >>40850720 >>40850878

>>40850109
Read 'em and weep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:50:58 No.40850210 Report

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>>40850145
>speed to 135
Still really good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:51:05 No.40850220 Report

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>>40850150
Look at that speed! That's with a Sassy nature too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:51:25 No.40850238 Report

Quoted By: >>40850289 >>40850378

>>40850145
Doubt it. For a level 60 Chandelure to have 201 speed, he needs 30 EV, and that's for 31IV

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:51:40 No.40850247 Report

Quoted By: >>40850289 >>40850932 >>40858083

>>40850150
>level 60
>with EVs
Try again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:52:47 No.40850289 Report

Quoted By: >>40853677

>>40850247
>>40850238
145 Speed sounds perfectly reasonably. 100 is the stupidly low number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:53:03 No.40850302 Report

Quoted By: >>40850411 >>40850559 >>40850935 >>40851204

>>40850150
>clear body

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:55:01 No.40850378 Report

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>>40850238
* Special Attack. Fuck I messed up that one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:55:37 No.40850411 Report

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>>40850302
>intimidate ain't shit
>webs ain't shit
pretty nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:56:14 No.40850451 Report

Quoted By: >>40850884

>>40850017
So this one is a speed pseudo. All the pseudo ever since gen 5 had one primary stat higher than others.
Dragonite, Tyrantitar, Salamance, Metagross, and Garchomp: Attack
Hydreigon: Special attack
Goodra: Special Defense
Kommo-o: Defense
Now Dragapult: Speed

That mean the next one is going to be HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:57:14 No.40850494 Report

Quoted By: >>40850595

actually clear body is nice as fuck ..

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:57:36 No.40850517 Report

Quoted By: >>40850801 >>40855338

>>40850150
Damn. Is this thing faster than weavile?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:58:45 No.40850559 Report

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>>40850302
Cringe retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:59:02 No.40850573 Report

Quoted By: >>40850711 >>40850729

Physical is kinda shitty for that typing. Hope ghost gets a good physical move otherwise lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:59:28 No.40850595 Report

Quoted By: >>40850674

>>40850494
Exactly.

Sticky web fags btfo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 04:59:34 No.40850600 Report

Quoted By: >>40850618

>>40850017
as a planefag that's kind of lame, stealth is about going slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:00:04 No.40850618 Report

Quoted By: >>40850724

>>40850600
a slow plane is still pretty fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:01:08 No.40850674 Report

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>>40850595
intimidate really.. especially since im thinkin arcanine is actually gonna be a decent wall

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:01:42 No.40850711 Report

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>>40850573
Has a unique move. Wouldn't doubt she would have Shadow Sneak and Shadow Claw either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:01:59 No.40850720 Report

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>>40850150
Can you show moves he learnt? I hope there's a new good ghost physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:01:59 No.40850721 Report

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>>40850017
Uber with Aegislash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:02:01 No.40850724 Report

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>>40850618
still outspeeds all the other planemons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:02:07 No.40850729 Report

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>>40850573
It can be a mixed fighter. Look at the special attack, can be decent and put a dent into pokemon that are weak to ghost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:02:51 No.40850762 Report

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>>40850711
Shadow Claw is pretty shit though. Maybe Ghost Max Moves could carry it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:03:25 No.40850781 Report

Quoted By: >>40858052

THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING CHOMPBROS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:03:36 No.40850784 Report

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>>40850711
The move will be good in singles but absolutely abysmal in doubles. Sure it bypasses wide guard but the power is so low its almost a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:03:45 No.40850787 Report

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>>40850711
>Shadow Claw
>It have littles claws
I don't know it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:04:16 No.40850801 Report

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>>40850517
Yes by a significant margin lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:04:59 No.40850831 Report

Quoted By: >>40850876 >>40850933 >>40850958 >>40851038 >>40851052

>>40850711
>instead of just giving it a 100 bp spread attack they made up a shitty gimmick so that the move has horrendously low bp in double battles
gamefreak why

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:06:04 No.40850876 Report

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>>40850831
VGC BABY!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:06:14 No.40850878 Report

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>>40850150
>clear body
[nauseated face emoji here]

God! I hope they give him a good hidden ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:06:22 No.40850884 Report

Quoted By: >>40851105

>>40850451
Goodra should've been HP and Special Defense could've been a more majestic pseudo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:07:33 No.40850932 Report

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>>40850247
We know it totals 600, so that puts a limit on how low it can get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:07:34 No.40850933 Report

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>>40850831
Because this way it breaks sash and substitute. Have you never heard of bonemerang and dual chop? This is literally those but better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:07:36 No.40850935 Report

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>>40850302
>Forgetting about Metagross

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:07:57 No.40850946 Report

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>>40850878
clear body is crazy good, can't be webbed or intimidated. basically you need

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:08:04 No.40850952 Report

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>>40850878
Clear body is one of the best abilities you can give a pokemon how low iq are you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:08:12 No.40850958 Report

Quoted By: >>40850995 >>40850997

>>40850831
Would this sound better?
BP: 70
"User fires Dreepy at opponent twice, with the second hit dealing half the damage. If there are two targets, this move attacks each target once."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:08:45 No.40850979 Report

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>>40850878
Clearbody is a perfectly good ability, it counters intimidate and memeweb, both of which would be really bad for dragapult otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:09:21 No.40850995 Report

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>>40850958
yeah that's miles better
congrats in about 5 seconds you came up with a better move concept than gamefreak could

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:09:22 No.40850997 Report

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>>40850958
U somehow made it worse lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:10:21 No.40851038 Report

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>>40850831
yeah but in singles it breaks substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:10:38 No.40851052 Report

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>>40850831
as a dubs player, just don't put use darts then
i'm a little curious how it interacts with redirection though

>>40850878
everyone else already made fun of you, but yeesh
it's not even about good in one context but not another, it literally makes you more reliable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:12:05 No.40851097 Report

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Another Pokemon that shouldn't get hit by Ground attacks but will be.
Not that I would prefer it to be Flying or to have Levitate, but I wish GF would just rework the entire flying type already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:12:13 No.40851105 Report

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>>40850884
That's going to be after gen 9(if we get that far). Gen 9 is going to be HP and after that, we might start having a loop or different stats are equally high.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:12:43 No.40851124 Report

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>>40850878
the second ability is Cursed Body

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:13:02 No.40851141 Report

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>>40850109
I checked with smogon. Mega Sceptile with a speed-reducing nature like the pictured Dragapult needed +12 to match 181 speed.

That's fucking fast, so you shush.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:13:44 No.40851160 Report

Quoted By: >>40851221

Wow what an amazing mon. You can even go adamant with it and it will outspeed everything after a DD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:14:33 No.40851204 Report

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>>40850302
>can freely set up DD
>intimidate doesn't work
>silly strings offer no effect

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:15:01 No.40851221 Report

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>>40851160
And Darts breaks Sash, too

It's objectively better than Dragon Claw and Dragon Rush in Singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:18:44 No.40851356 Report

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>>40850711
Won't it be useful at times if your opponent use dynamax/gigantamax? When it happen, Dragon Darts can still attack twice on either small or large target.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:20:29 No.40851417 Report

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bruh give this thing technician w dragon darts and shadow sneak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:21:53 No.40851460 Report

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>>40850878
You're crazy if you don't think clear body is insane on this thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:24:04 No.40851521 Report

Quoted By: >>40851795 >>40851912 >>40852594

>>40850017
great, goblin bro gets mediocre stats at best and this thing gets god tier distribution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:31:11 No.40851795 Report

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>>40851521
I hope it gets a good steel or poison move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:34:17 No.40851912 Report

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>>40851521
Yeah, but GainsGoblin can literally just Sucker Punch Dragapult and kill it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:34:55 No.40851936 Report

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>>40850017
150 speed confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:49:09 No.40852594 Report

Quoted By: >>40852751 >>40852764

>>40851521
Gains Goblin still has an unresisted STAB combination, STAB Sucker Punch, Prankster, and a Gigantamax. If it gets even one good boosting move, it's going to be a monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:52:57 No.40852751 Report

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>>40852594
Galar weezing resists it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:53:18 No.40852764 Report

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>>40852594
Its resisted by G-Weezing, and Weezing is capable of neutralizing its Prankster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:18:13 No.40853677 Report

Quoted By:

>>40850289
100 is not low, you're a player of U... U... UNOVAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:23:28 No.40853870 Report

Quoted By: >>40854005

>>40850017
That's not funny. If the stats are approximate, it will be an extremely annoying pokemon to face. Only what can limit he is the moveset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:28:01 No.40854005 Report

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>>40853870
At the very least it has a 2x50BP STAB move, DD, and Shadow Force.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:37:53 No.40854320 Report

Quoted By: >>40854658

>>40850017
god, i love this guy. but idk i find his design so endearing but also so intellectually bankrupt.
>what if... a lizard... but his head is a stealth bomber....
but hes so fucking cute. his hands look so stupid. i think its because its badly modeled/animated probably, but idk sometimes bad stuff looks cute.
someone talk me through it please!

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:46:51 No.40854658 Report

Quoted By: >>40854696

Definitely my favorite design this gen and probably in my all time top 10. I love it so much. The concept is really well thought out (Diplocaulus looks like a B2, B2 is named "Spirit" so its a ghost type) and as someone studying to be a pilot this design just speaks to me
>>40854320
It's based on pic related too, not just any lizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:47:54 No.40854696 Report

Quoted By: >>40854751

>>40854658
i forgot those existed but it doesnt really help he just doesnt even really look like a pokemon. like we're encroaching upon digimon tier designs here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:49:29 No.40854746 Report

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>>40850017
he fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:49:39 No.40854751 Report

Quoted By: >>40854850

>>40854696
Yeah bro i feel you you're allowed to dislike it, it is admittedly a bit over the top but aircraft are my weakness

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:52:24 No.40854850 Report

Quoted By: >>40859003

>>40854751
thats the thing. i love it but it just feels so.... idk... lame. like whichever company, gamefreak, tpc, whoever, ran out of ideas. i showed my friend some pics of the leaked pokemon and his only comment really was that this gen doesn't look like pokemon. he actually said it looks like steven universe which i haven't watched but yeah...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:09:07 No.40855338 Report

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>>40850517
Its fucking Mega Sceptile and Mega Beedrill tier.
Counting forms as separate Pokemon, there's only 8-10 pokemon faster than it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:17:58 No.40855615 Report

Quoted By: >>40857610

>>40850071
And fuck, that 95 special attack is good enough to run some sort of coverage to deal with physical walls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:53:40 No.40857610 Report

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>>40855615
>dragon psuedo

Flamethrower/fire blast and earthquake are practically guaranteed. Shame it can't switch in unless fighting types are around. Let's face it - they suck now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:09:17 No.40857908 Report

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>>40850711
I'm a little worried about this thing's movepool. Most Ghost moves are trash especially on the physical side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:17:24 No.40858052 Report

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>>40850781
the thing’s signature attack is a dragon move which doesn’t mean jack shit when there’s tons of fairy types and it probably has low BP viable ghost moves on the physical side. we already won.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:18:58 No.40858083 Report

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>>40850247

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:42:54 No.40858419 Report

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GHOSTBROS ALWAYS WIN
GHOSTBROS ALWAYS WIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 10:12:19 No.40858919 Report

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>>40850878
Clear Body is great on offensive pokemon. It's mediocre on more slow, tanky pokemon.
Your perception of Clear Body is most likely distorted by the Regis, who are bad, but prominent users of it, and Metagross, who used it well, but the mega got Tough Claws which was flat out broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 10:15:54 No.40859003 Report

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>>40854850
Not gonna lie, that's 100% a Yokai Watch monster

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