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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:40:16 No.40852181 View View Reply Original Report

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Confirmed ice volcarona

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:40:50 No.40852208 Report

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>>40852181
you don't say

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:41:03 No.40852220 Report

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Ok but can we keep fire Volcarona too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:41:16 No.40852234 Report

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>>40852181
>Can't pair it with regular Volcarona for moth duo
Hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:41:43 No.40852255 Report

Quoted By: >>40852423 >>40852430 >>40856112

Base stats were significantly lower I thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:42:44 No.40852290 Report

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>>40852181
One one hand it's my favorite new Pokemon, on the other why make a whole new moth instead of a regional variant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:43:04 No.40852304 Report

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>>40852181
What were the estimates for its stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:44:06 No.40852354 Report

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>>40852290
Because moths are cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:44:26 No.40852374 Report

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>>40852181
It's cool but it wasn't worth sacrificing literally all the other moths for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:44:28 No.40852377 Report

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>>40852290
Regional variants are and have always been a stupid idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:45:15 No.40852414 Report

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>>40852377
You can argue against the execution but they are easily the best idea they had in Gen 7, by far.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:45:25 No.40852423 Report

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>>40852255
No idea on nature or iv's but leaker's seems strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:45:29 No.40852430 Report

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>>40852255
They are similar, probably had shit iv/evs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:45:50 No.40852445 Report

Quoted By: >>40852504 >>40852543

is it confirmed shield exclusive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:46:02 No.40852457 Report

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Imagine waking up in the middle of the night and seeing this at your window

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:46:30 No.40852480 Report

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>>40852414
No, they're retarded. They use them as an excuse/replacement for new pokemon, which is the only reason I play this series. So from my perspective, they're as cancerous and megas and gigantomaxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:46:54 No.40852494 Report

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>>40852423
Someone please calculate the base stats and tell me it isn't shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:47:05 No.40852504 Report

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>>40852445
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:48:01 No.40852541 Report

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>>40852423
Probably
Hp 100
Atk 70
Def 90
Spa 130
Spd 100
Spd 90

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:48:05 No.40852543 Report

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>>40852445
Leaker confirmed he can catch both fire/bug and ice/bug pokemon in Shield. It isn't exclusive pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:49:17 No.40852598 Report

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>>40852423
> on nature
It's a neutral nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:51:12 No.40852687 Report

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>>40852423
Maybe 110/70/90/110/90/90

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:51:48 No.40852717 Report

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>>40852480
Shut the fuck up retard most of the best designs of this gen have been region variants

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:52:25 No.40852736 Report

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>>40852423
I was hoping it'd get compound eyes for Blizzard shenanigans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:52:45 No.40852744 Report

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>>40852717
No, they're all dogshit, just like they were in Alola. Fuck your stupid Meowth and the godawful memes it's spawned.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:53:14 No.40852760 Report

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>>40852423
>Shield Dust
>not Compound Eyes or even Tinted Lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:56:01 No.40852861 Report

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>>40852760
HA exists
could also have 2nd ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 05:56:04 No.40852863 Report

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>>40852541
580 BST
As always, the 5-point rule holds. It even matches Volcarona's BST after that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:00:09 No.40853017 Report

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>>40852861
Probably will be Swarm and Snow Cloak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:03:31 No.40853142 Report

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>>40852181
I hope it's category is "the Moon Pokémon".
(Volcarona is the Sun Pokémon, and it's not weak ti fire)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:06:24 No.40853241 Report

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>>40852181
Bless this thing if it gets snow warning as it’s HA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:06:55 No.40853255 Report

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>>40852423
Its base stats are

HP: 100
ATK: 60
DEF: 60
SPA: 120
SPD: 50
SPE: 70

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:07:05 No.40853262 Report

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>>40852423
imagine if it gets freeze dry. yep.. im thinkin ice volc is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:07:49 No.40853288 Report

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>>40853255
Oh no...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:08:44 No.40853315 Report

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>>40852181
>ice volcarona except without the good fire typing getting walled by any defensive pokemon

yep, uu material, without fire type you cannot wallbreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:09:19 No.40853348 Report

Quoted By: >>40853481

>>40852541
>>40852687
>>40853255

it cant possibly have higher than 86 base HP even if zero IV and EV in HP that is still the absolute max possible, all you retards suggesting 100 HP have no clue how stat calcs work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:12:02 No.40853457 Report

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>>40853255
God what is even the point of slow Ice types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:12:49 No.40853481 Report

Quoted By: >>40853551 >>40855233 >>40856129 >>40858005

>>40853348
The highest it can have is 88.

Likely stats are are probably.

HP: 80
ATK: 50
DEF: 55-60
SPA: 90
SPD: 65-70
SPE: 65-70

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:14:54 No.40853551 Report

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>>40853481
S-still cute af

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:15:02 No.40853557 Report

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>>40853315
Just give it HP ground, it deals with all the pokemon that could wall it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:20:04 No.40853737 Report

Quoted By: >>40860699

>>40853557
that shit is bouncing off toxapex and any qds the moth got are getting hazed
it's a lovely design but I can't see it being very good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:23:10 No.40853860 Report

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>>40853142
it's just frost moth pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:34:39 No.40854205 Report

Quoted By: >>40854398 >>40854412 >>40862583

>>40852423
Ok, we know it has a neutral nature so if we assume 0IV/EV to get those stat at level 65 the base stats are
HP: 86
Attack: 80
Defense: 81
Sp attack: 139
Sp. def 110
Speed: 110

You can probably remove 10 to 20 point on those stat to have a decent estimation of its base stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:35:33 No.40854231 Report

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>>40852541
I'm pretty sure you're the closest but with defense and HP toned down by about 20 each and Special attack about 10

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:37:41 No.40854310 Report

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>>40852480
They're cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:37:49 No.40854318 Report

Quoted By: >>40854350

so despite being a bug/ice type it isn't hilariously frail?
Thank god

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:38:43 No.40854350 Report

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>>40854318
No it is hilariously frail, it's bug/ice type, it's stats don't even matter when your typing is that horrendous defensively

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:39:21 No.40854366 Report

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>>40853457
GAmefreak thinks ice is defensive because ice is hard. Not realizing what the weaknesses it has mean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:40:02 No.40854398 Report

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>>40854205
wait a minute
that's a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:40:26 No.40854412 Report

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>>40854205
This looks too good to be true desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:40:34 No.40854416 Report

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>>40852423
I really, really hope it gets a good ability. Even if it has just a high speed stat, mediocre everything else and tinted lens, I'd play it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:41:03 No.40854438 Report

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>>40854398
Most likely it's about ten points off on each

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:41:31 No.40854454 Report

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It could have the same base stats as Volcarona
According to this thread >>40852898

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:41:47 No.40854467 Report

Quoted By: >>40854556 >>40854706

>>40854416
Compound eyes or Tinted lens would be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:42:18 No.40854493 Report

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>>40854412
It's an absolute best case scenario, that's what its base stats would be with no investment of any kind in anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:43:03 No.40854525 Report

Quoted By: >>40854860

>its not focused on speed
>its only available on one of the last routes
God, why did a beautiful ice type have to be my favorite this gen?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:43:54 No.40854556 Report

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>>40854467
>Compound Eyes AND Tinted Lens

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:44:54 No.40854584 Report

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>>40852423
I tried making a similar volcarona with mediocre iv ev

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:45:03 No.40854589 Report

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>>40854493
Keep in mind that the leaker used it on his team, so it likely has some EV investment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:46:42 No.40854648 Report

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I expect a sub-100 speed, because GF still has a raging hateboner for the ice type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:47:12 No.40854674 Report

Quoted By: >>40854782

Correct stats:

HP: 75
Atk: 65
Def: 70
Spa: 135
SpD: 105
Spe: 100

BST: 550

These are calculated taking into account Smogon's estimates (which were calculated as if this had 31 IVs in all stats) and making them more realistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:48:17 No.40854706 Report

Quoted By: >>40854864

>>40854467
compoundeyes on a Pokemon with access to blizzard would be great

But it will probably get snow cloak or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:50:37 No.40854782 Report

Quoted By: >>40854851 >>40854889 >>40860862

>>40854674
Speed is still bad with its terrible type, so I don't expect much from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:51:28 No.40854819 Report

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>>40852423
yummy spe attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:52:26 No.40854851 Report

Quoted By: >>40855041

>>40854782
Volcarona has the "same issues" and its among the best mons in the game. A good movepool and quiver dance sets this up to be at least above average.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:52:46 No.40854860 Report

Quoted By: >>40854873

>>40854525
Wait what route is it on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:52:52 No.40854864 Report

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>>40854706
If the trend from gen 7 continues it will have a signature move or ability.

Also doesn't Volcaroba learn Fiery Dance at lv. 100?

Icy Dance maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:53:07 No.40854873 Report

Quoted By: >>40855121

>>40854860
Route 9

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:53:56 No.40854889 Report

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>>40854782
2/3 of the dex was cut, making base 100 speed pretty fast in comparison to what's left.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:57:29 No.40855004 Report

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Now with 15 IV and 85 EV, so average in everything.
So the stat are probably something like
HP 65-75
Attack 60-70
Defense 60-70
Sp attack: 120-130
Sp def 90-100
Speed 90-100
So yes something pretty similar to Volcarona but with probably a lower BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 06:58:27 No.40855041 Report

Quoted By: >>40855198 >>40855238 >>40855546 >>40856513

>>40854851
Volcarona's STABs don't get walled by two types and it also doesn't have two quadra weaknesses.
It absolutely needs tinted lens to be remotely viable, not even compoundeyes can save it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:01:15 No.40855121 Report

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>>40854873
Where did they reveal the route it’s on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:04:33 No.40855198 Report

Quoted By: >>40855655

>>40855041
H P G R O U N D
P
G
R
O
U
N
D

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:05:31 No.40855233 Report

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>>40853481
No way that's right, that's gen 1 shitmon tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:05:42 No.40855238 Report

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>>40855041
Or it could just have a broader movepool

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:16:03 No.40855546 Report

Quoted By: >>40855655 >>40856253

>>40855041
Moot point now because of the cut but Volc's STABs got walled by a shit-ton of common dual types, forcing it to run weird coverage moves like Psychic to get past them.

Examples include:

Toxapex
Dragonite
Tapu Fini
Pelipper
Blacephalon
Charizard
Heatran
Keldeo

So let's not act like Volc's offensive type is all that amazing.
Unlike Bug/Ice, which can solve all its coverage issues in ONE MOVE (HP Ground), Volc was never able to get past most of its STAB resists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:19:26 No.40855655 Report

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>>40855546
>>40855198
hp ground has 60 bp, it's far from a fix to it
if it gets earth power though, it may have a shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:21:48 No.40855729 Report

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>>40852480
Regional variants are the only things saving gen 7 and gen 8, get fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:36:10 No.40856112 Report

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>>40852255
Smogon assumes worst case scenario of 31 ivs and decent EVs, which is simply unrealistic to assume. a more middling calculation got basically the same stats as Volcarona.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:36:37 No.40856129 Report

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>>40853481
>shit stats

:(

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:41:27 No.40856253 Report

Quoted By: >>40856306

>>40855546
The dual type walling is directly caused by Vocarona
You can run a Steel incidentally and wall Frosmoth to kingdom come.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:43:23 No.40856306 Report

Quoted By: >>40856383 >>40856477

>>40856253
Steels won't enjoy eating +1 HP Ground coming from 130 base SpA.

Also, what steels lol. All the good ones (Scizor, Heatran, Zone) are gone.

Ferro? Could still run surprise HP Fire so not a safe switch-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:46:31 No.40856383 Report

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>>40856306
Hp fire gets you hard walled by fire types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:50:37 No.40856477 Report

Quoted By: >>40856545

>>40856306
>ferrothorn fears non-stab HP fire
lmao have you ever actually played pokemon in your life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:52:12 No.40856513 Report

Quoted By: >>40856545

>>40855041
What if it got sheer force?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:53:46 No.40856545 Report

Quoted By: >>40856618

>>40856477
I mean
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Volcarona Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 232+ SpD Ferrothorn: 348-411 (98.8 - 116.7%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery

Converted to ice type of course. But HP fire gets it walled by Toxapex and Fire types so.
>>40856513
Not as good as Tinted Lens on it but yeah I guess it'd be better than shield dust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:54:06 No.40856551 Report

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>135 SpA
>105 SpD
>100 Spe
I want to believe, stat estimates are fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:57:18 No.40856618 Report

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>>40856545
If it gets Freeze Dry Toxapex is not a concern.

Then again, that move has ridiculously low distribution even among ice types so not holding my breath on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 07:59:38 No.40856667 Report

Quoted By: >>40856922 >>40857279 >>40857330

Can you people stop acting like this thing has to sweep the entire metagame on its own? Newsflash everything has checks and counters. That's what team mates are for.

Just appreciate for a moment that we're FINALLY getting a fast, specially offensive ice types with an amazing setup move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:00:41 No.40856686 Report

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Thread theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa_cK9B8Yqk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:10:51 No.40856844 Report

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Its Dex entry mentions that it creates blizzards by flapping its wings. It could have Snow Warning as HA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:13:48 No.40856902 Report

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its going to be stomped on by sneaky pebbles again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:14:59 No.40856922 Report

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>>40856667
It's really dumb. I also like people trying to say one thing possibly walking it means it's dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:16:27 No.40856942 Report

Quoted By: >>40857058

>>40852181
Can someone fill me in on the dex entry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:23:55 No.40857058 Report

Quoted By: >>40857531

>>40856942
snom
Worm Pokemon
1'
8.4 lbs
It eats snow that piles up on the ground. The more snow it eats, the bigger and more impressive the spikes on its back grow.

Frosmoth
Frost Moth Pokemon
4'3"
92.6 lbs
It shows no mercy to any who desecrate fields and mountains. It will fly around on its icy wings, causing a blizzard to chase offenders away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:26:19 No.40857097 Report

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what level does it evolve though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:32:23 No.40857208 Report

Quoted By: >>40857251

>>40852423
>Very high Sp. Atk
>Ice Stab
What a sweeper, I like it even more now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:33:54 No.40857235 Report

Quoted By: >>40857252

I hope it doesn't get snow warning. Such a lazy "fix" for ice types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:35:07 No.40857251 Report

Quoted By: >>40860923

>>40857208
>insert any bulky water, fire or steel type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:35:09 No.40857252 Report

Quoted By: >>40857328

>>40857235
Imagine Slush Rush in this meta where you can set weather super easily. Or Tinted Lens so it can just keep momentum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:36:44 No.40857279 Report

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>>40856667
Its like Volcarona all over again
>UM LMAO 4X WEAK TO ROCK ITS OVER BROS OH NO NO NO NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:39:11 No.40857328 Report

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>>40857252
I'd take tinted lens or compound eyes, just cause I'm sick of ice types needing to build themselves around weather. Not even sand is so limited

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:39:17 No.40857330 Report

Quoted By: >>40858491

>>40856667
Anon each pokemon exists in a vacuum.
If it can't beat EVERY pokemon, including legendaries, it is literally useless.
And is can it is extra useless because only Smogon exists and if smogon bans it it may as well not exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:46:54 No.40857478 Report

Quoted By: >>40857549 >>40857719

>Volcarona is one of the most realistically detailed designs in the series
>Its counterpart gets to debut in the "lol cartoon blob" generation and looks like a toy
Fuck this

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:49:41 No.40857531 Report

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>>40857058
Awesome, thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:50:43 No.40857549 Report

Quoted By: >>40857562 >>40857723 >>40857759

>>40857478
Shit taste. It's easily the second best butterfly/moth type mon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:51:29 No.40857562 Report

Quoted By: >>40857759

>>40857549
Agreed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:59:48 No.40857719 Report

Quoted By: >>40857808 >>40857933

>>40857478
Frosmoth is based on a luna moth and they actually look like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 08:59:55 No.40857723 Report

Quoted By: >>40857772 >>40857857

>>40857549
That's not really a high bar considering most of them are crap, but I'd personally put both Venomoth and Volcarona above it.
It's a shame because I'd probably really love it if it had been designed with more detail, I just fucking hate this gen's ridiculously simplified art style overall and it drags down so many of its designs for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:02:00 No.40857759 Report

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>>40857549
>>40857562
It's my favorite moth/butterfly so far. None of this second place shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:02:40 No.40857772 Report

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>>40857723
I like venomoth too actually, though I despise venonat and to this day believe it was swapped with caterpie/metapod and the god awful Butterfree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:04:33 No.40857808 Report

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>>40857719
>Frosmoth's shape is like a lunar moth
>Volcarona's shiny is colored after a lunar moth
Maybe Frosmoth's shiny will be based on the Atlas Moth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:06:12 No.40857846 Report

Quoted By: >>40857885

So it seems safe to say the stat's are similar to volc, possibly exactly the same, and it's probably safe to assume it gets quiver dance since every moth/butterfly does.

This thing certainly has a chance. It's weaker than volc for sure even with the same stats but it still has a chance to be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:06:37 No.40857857 Report

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>>40857723
>putting Venomoth above it
no. And I don't see what's toy like about it. Because it looks under-designed or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:07:55 No.40857885 Report

Quoted By: >>40857907

>>40857846
>probably safe to assume it gets quiver dance
It 100% does, leaker had it on his.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:09:16 No.40857907 Report

Quoted By: >>40857929

>>40857885
where's the pic of his moves?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:10:28 No.40857929 Report

Quoted By: >>40857950 >>40858038 >>40858069

>>40857907

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:10:45 No.40857933 Report

Quoted By: >>40858074 >>40858082 >>40858118

>>40857719
It's an extremely simplified Luna Moth, and for me that's the problem with it. When you're trying to translate something as impressive as this into a Pokémon design, simplifying it isn't the way to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:11:35 No.40857950 Report

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>>40857929
IMAGINE if this thing doesn't get moon blast haha wouldn't that be funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:11:58 No.40857957 Report

Quoted By: >>40858004

Where is the "general" of leaker dude? All this fucking information is all scattered

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:14:22 No.40858004 Report

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>>40857957
>>>40849459
It was stickied yesterday but then a mod undid when leaker took a break and now some of his images are gone and it's falling down the pages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:14:24 No.40858005 Report

Quoted By: >>40858038

>>40853481
>90 sp. atk
>70 speed
Nope you're actually retarded.
That thing has no less of 130 base sp. attack and definitely not less than 85 base speed. 100% guaranteed with those stats. If this Ice mothra learns quiver dance as well, oh boy, definitely gonna have it on my competitive team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:16:46 No.40858038 Report

Quoted By: >>40858221

>>40858005
>if
>>40857929

Tailwind too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:18:16 No.40858069 Report

Quoted By: >>40858141 >>40858157

>>40857929
this dude gets quiver dance. GG one of my favorite mons from this gen gets to be viable fuck yes!

Did Anonymous leaker said where he caught it (early game mid game) or at what level he got the bugger?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:18:29 No.40858074 Report

Quoted By: >>40858534

>>40857933
Wouldn't make more sense to be based on this type of moth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:18:50 No.40858082 Report

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>>40857933
It looks more like a peppered moth to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:20:48 No.40858118 Report

Quoted By: >>40858159

>>40857933
It also is an ice type. The subdued color scheme suits it. I don't get your shitty problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:22:39 No.40858141 Report

Quoted By: >>40858503

If it does get a 100 signiture, would you want it to be set up move (something like raise spd and spA and cause blizzard) or just an ice copy of fiery dance?
>>40858069
>Did Anonymous leaker said where he caught it
I don't recall exactly but it was definitely later, around elite 4 I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:23:44 No.40858157 Report

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>>40858069
Route 9. There's only 10 routes in Galar

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:23:51 No.40858159 Report

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>>40858118
Who said anything about the colour scheme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:28:02 No.40858221 Report

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>>40858038
haha yes

And I'm also a bit surprised with Rilaboom's stats, thought it was gonna be slow and mixed everything, but that dude is surprisingly very decent with the stats the leaker showed.

Thinking of having my team be:

- Rilaboom
- Grimmsnarl
- Centiskorc/Toxtricity (whichever shows up first, although I'm inclined to go with the fiery bug)
- Hatterene
- Frosmoth
- Dragapult

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:48:55 No.40858491 Report

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>>40857330
Mini Ice Lavos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:50:00 No.40858503 Report

Quoted By: >>40858546

>>40858141
There is no elite 4

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:51:25 No.40858524 Report

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>>40852181
At first glance that thing looked like an Albino Cacodemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:52:16 No.40858534 Report

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>>40858074
Iont care what is based on, what I care is that he's BASED

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:53:11 No.40858546 Report

Quoted By: >>40858565 >>40858952

>>40858503
learn to spoiler your comments asshole

Some of us don't want story spoilers!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:54:22 No.40858565 Report

Quoted By:

>>40858546
no elite 4 is early september news and not tied to game leaks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 09:57:03 No.40858609 Report

Quoted By:

>>40853255
That special defense is significantly higher than its defense so I think otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 10:14:01 No.40858952 Report

Quoted By:

>>40858546
We've known theres no Elite 4 since September m8. Not my fault you're out of the loop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 11:30:38 No.40860611 Report

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>>40852290
Why does everything have to be a regional variant? God I hate gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 11:35:20 No.40860699 Report

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>>40853737
>Freeze Dry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 11:37:38 No.40860749 Report

Quoted By: >>40860852

>>40854416
Shield Dust is a good ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 11:42:04 No.40860852 Report

Quoted By:

>>40860749
Yeah, but it's not going to do much for a frail fast attacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 11:42:38 No.40860862 Report

Quoted By:

>>40854782
It has Quiver Dance. Not every ice type doesn’t need blistering speed. Why is /vp/ so bad at competitive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 11:45:09 No.40860923 Report

Quoted By:

>>40857251
>Pokémon has checks
WOAH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 13:01:10 No.40862583 Report

Quoted By:

>>40854205
do it with full IV's

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 13:09:06 No.40862735 Report

Quoted By:

>>40852181
I want to cuddle this thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 14:00:48 No.40863733 Report

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I did the calcs on a spreadsheet. Here is a estimate values (considering neutral nature and average ivs and evs):
HP/ATK/DEF/SPA/SPD/SPE
70/65/65/125/95/95

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