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>>40868379
>>40868402
tfw i always defended this design, even when I wished it was the tank concept that was lost from beta gen V, but Fairy type has always cucked this /boi/ to death.
only BS part of it to me was how long it took to evolve ffs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:22:27 No.40868489 Report

Quoted By: >>40868627 >>40868652

>>40868442
>metagross
Not kommo-o

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:24:37 No.40868552 Report

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>>40868379
I am gonna laugh so hard if alcremie has higher speed for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:26:10 No.40868599 Report

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>>40868469
better to keep the period in goodra than out of her NAMMASAYIN?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:27:25 No.40868627 Report

Quoted By: >>40868663

>>40868489
Kommo-O is OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:27:37 No.40868637 Report

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>>40868469
You weren't here for slugfucker, were you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:28:17 No.40868652 Report

Quoted By: >>40868693

>>40868489
You're right, it isn't Kommo-o. Kommo-o is OU without needing its Z move on 2/3 sets.

RUgross can't compete

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:28:35 No.40868663 Report

Quoted By: >>40868716 >>40868790

>>40868627
>implying Z-moves will still be around

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:28:39 No.40868670 Report

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>>40868402
why does gamefreak hate him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:28:57 No.40868679 Report

Quoted By: >>40868696 >>40868721

>>40868379
Nope bomber dragon and killerfish are gonna destroy him. Theres also steel dragon being able to tank almost everything this can throw at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:29:18 No.40868687 Report

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Is Kommo-o in the new one?
I liked him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:29:33 No.40868693 Report

Quoted By: >>40868753

>>40868652
Kommo-o only rose to OU because it can force people out with the threat of its Z-move forcing a sweep

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:29:38 No.40868696 Report

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>>40868679
>earth power

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:30:25 No.40868716 Report

Quoted By: >>40870291

>>40868663
>Z Crystal used on less than half of Kommo-o in the high ladder
ok?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:30:43 No.40868721 Report

Quoted By: >>40870651

>>40868679
>bomber dragon
Good mon, but weak to dark. I'm gonna try and run both in my team for the first week of online.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:31:22 No.40868743 Report

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*blocks you are path*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:31:40 No.40868753 Report

Quoted By: >>40868788 >>40868871 >>40870198

>>40868693
And Metagross dropped to RU because it's shit.

Kommo-o was also doing great in UU for a while where its Z move was banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:32:40 No.40868774 Report

Quoted By: >>40868806 >>40868849

>>40868442
Metagross was top tier OU for 3-4 gens and got his mega banned in SM, what are you on

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:33:07 No.40868788 Report

Quoted By: >>40868847

>>40868753
>>40868442
>all these niggers shitting on based metagross
fucker is in ubers with a megastone, wtf are you on about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:33:12 No.40868790 Report

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>>40868663
Bellydrum has always been the real threatening set.
Z is just good at getting and keeping up rocks against balance teams without fini.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:33:26 No.40868794 Report

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>>40868442
Metagross was good until they cucked explosion and then became great again with its mega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:33:48 No.40868806 Report

Quoted By: >>40869165

>>40868774
>top tier OU for 3-4 gens
It wasn't. Even back in gen 5 it was kind of a meme to use Metagross in OU. Everyone was expecting it to drop because it wasn't doing that great, but shitters kept trying to make it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:35:20 No.40868847 Report

Quoted By: >>40868865 >>40868902

>>40868788
And megas aren't in the game anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:35:36 No.40868849 Report

Quoted By: >>40869165

>>40868774
Metagross got two direct nerfs in a row, first with the explosion nerf and then the steel nerf.
It's been shit since gen 5 but had inflated usage from ladder kiddies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:36:06 No.40868865 Report

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>>40868847
Neither is metagross

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:36:18 No.40868871 Report

Quoted By: >>40868910

>>40868753
i'm not arguing metagross isn't shit, i'm saying your praise of kommo-o in Gen 7 is overexaggerated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:37:37 No.40868902 Report

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>>40868847
>implying they'll get rid of mega shillzard x and y

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:37:59 No.40868909 Report

Quoted By: >>40869373

>>40868379
I love hydreigon but it feels like a Monday that is "almost" good. If you run timid you're too weak to get the ohkos you need, if you run modest then you get out-speed by other dragons and killed. Dark dragon is a cool type but very shitty defensively with ice coverage being everywhere and it dies to a fairy wind. Obnoxious speed tier that is just shy of being great with no way of reliably boosting. Seriously why the fuck is this pokemon the b- of pseudos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:38:01 No.40868910 Report

Quoted By: >>40871407

>>40868871
It's not really that overexaggrated in comparison to Metagross, which anon was trying to argue is less shut for some reason.

One is UU without its special gimmick toy and the other is RU without its special gimmick toy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:38:08 No.40868915 Report

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>>40868379
> his

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:39:57 No.40868964 Report

Quoted By: >>40869050 >>40869117 >>40869323

*dynamic punches you back to the shitty gen you came from*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:43:00 No.40869041 Report

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>>40868379
Dynamax Dark Pulse lowers Spdef so it can spam it and if someone sends a fairy in right after you hit them with the dynamax flash cannon for the ko at -1 spdef.
It's looking good for it.

Haxorus is another mon that looks good, Dynamax Superpower raises attack and Iron Tail raises defense meaning depending on the damage dealt it may cuck corviknight and other fairies with ease. It can always run Earthquake for the inevitable Doublade too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:43:07 No.40869050 Report

Quoted By: >>40869080

>>40868964
At least post conkeldurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:43:53 No.40869080 Report

Quoted By: >>40869323

>>40869050
conkeldurr doesn't run dynamic punch and comes from the exact same shitty gen. none of that would make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:45:21 No.40869117 Report

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>>40868964
>gets outsped by a fucking venipede
get your trashmon outta here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:47:07 No.40869165 Report

Quoted By: >>40869247

>>40868849
>>40868806
>Adv staple
>great in DP
>cucked in BW, yes
>top tier mega in XY
>banned mega in SM

Metabro is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:50:23 No.40869247 Report

Quoted By: >>40869286

>>40869165
>Mega
wow who cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:51:34 No.40869286 Report

Quoted By: >>40870150

>>40869247
Can't argue against facts, I know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:52:32 No.40869323 Report

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>>40869080
>>40868964
>Ralts sneezed!
>Machamp fucking died!
Eat shit Kantotrash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 17:54:32 No.40869373 Report

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>>40868909
fairy just completely annihilates this thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:16:04 No.40869980 Report

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>>40868379
>oops, most of the trope bulky special side fairies are still in
good luck with weak flash cannon and iron tail without z crystals and dmax competition

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:17:55 No.40870030 Report

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At least Scrafty is back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:22:21 No.40870150 Report

Quoted By: >>40870259

>>40869286
fact is metagross and megagross are tiered separately.
Metagross is a shitmon.
Megagross is a different matter entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:23:48 No.40870198 Report

Quoted By: >>40870406 >>40870435

>>40868442
>>40868753
Metagross is in Ubers you retards, base Metagross is in RU because his mega got banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:25:52 No.40870259 Report

Quoted By: >>40870385

>>40870150
>Mega Metagross doesn't count as Metagross
>Z-move specific Kommo-O does thi

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:27:11 No.40870291 Report

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>>40868716
Still without the fear of z move sweep shitmon with shitstats and shittyping wouldn't even get past high uu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:27:54 No.40870309 Report

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>>40868402
hydreigon was so good in gen 5 they had to invent a brand new type just to stop him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:30:26 No.40870385 Report

Quoted By: >>40870414

>>40870259
>2/3 of Kommo-O in OU don't use Z
>even with the Z move banned it was top tier UU before rising to OU vs Metagross's mid tier RU placement

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:31:28 No.40870406 Report

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>>40870198
That's not how the tiering works.
Metagross was RU before it's mega got banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:31:37 No.40870414 Report

Quoted By: >>40870575 >>40871540

>>40870385
>Top tier in UU
Wow, amazing it's almost as if it needs its toy to compete with the big boys

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:31:48 No.40870418 Report

Quoted By: >>40870945

I don't like that Megas are gone, since some of them were genuinely upgraded version of Pokemon who needed them, but I'm fucking glad that those cancer Z crystals are gone.

That being said, we got new evolutions to old monsters for the first time since Megas were introduced, so maybe it's a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:32:41 No.40870435 Report

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>>40870198
So metagross is shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:33:18 No.40870451 Report

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>>40868402
>the eternal shit pseudo
you must be a newfag who wasn't old enough to play Pokemon during gen 5, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:37:43 No.40870575 Report

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>>40870414
Just like Metagross eh.
'cept metagross is a bigger dead weight without it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:40:54 No.40870651 Report

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>>40868721
>Good mon, but weak to dark
Gets outspeed and OHKO'd by the bomber dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:43:31 No.40870718 Report

Quoted By: >>40870767 >>40870781 >>40870808 >>40871234

>>40868442
>metagross
WHAT
Kommo-o is EASILY the shittiest pseudo. And I hate that. Dragon/Fighting is such an interesting combination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:44:59 No.40870767 Report

Quoted By: >>40870856

>>40870718
How is goodra not worse? It doesn't even have a second type, while kommo-o can at least hold its own in ou and vgc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:45:31 No.40870781 Report

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>>40870718
>Short
>Shitty stat spread
>Shitty movepool
I agree

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:46:27 No.40870808 Report

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>>40870718
Clangorous is broke tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:48:36 No.40870856 Report

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>>40870767
>cute
>great movepool
>tall

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:52:22 No.40870945 Report

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>>40870418
What's wrong toxapex boi, couldn't handle a little sparkle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 18:55:00 No.40871027 Report

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The retards here don't seem to understand that mega metagross is the same as metagross, even though the item is tiered differently. It counts as the same pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:02:29 No.40871234 Report

Quoted By: >>40871656

>>40870718
Kommo-O is the third best psuedo.
It's standing up top in OU alongside Garchomp and Tyranitar.
Meanwhile Salamence and Dragonite are rotting in BL hell while Goodra and Metagross are stuck in some irrelevant lower tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:08:20 No.40871407 Report

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>>40868910
Kommo-o is ou tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:09:04 No.40871442 Report

Quoted By:

>>40868379
he has to compete with the new better pseudo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:12:46 No.40871540 Report

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>>40870414
Kommo-o is still useful without the z lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:16:53 No.40871651 Report

Quoted By: >>40871735

Best pseudos:
Mega Mence
Mega Gross

Top tier peseudos:
(Mega) Garchomp
Kommo-o
(Mega) Tyranitar

shit:
all others

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:17:01 No.40871656 Report

Quoted By: >>40871671

>>40871234
And Hydreigon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:17:26 No.40871671 Report

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>>40871656
Uu but its not bad in ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:19:23 No.40871735 Report

Quoted By: >>40871784 >>40871927

>>40871651
Mega Garchomp and Mega Tyranitar are worse than the base forms

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:20:39 No.40871775 Report

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>>40868379
He will get tranny fairy cocks rammed up his ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:21:06 No.40871784 Report

Quoted By: >>40871904

>>40871735
Mega T-tar is absolutely not worse than Base Tyranitar and it's absurd you'd even post that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:25:29 No.40871904 Report

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>>40871784
>A versus A- rank
c'mon nigga it's better but not by much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Nov 2019 19:26:06 No.40871927 Report

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>>40871735
Mega ttar is objectively better than the base form. True about garchomp though

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