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Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:04:53 No.40950186 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>40950202 >>40950279 >>40950294 >>40950747 >>40950883 >>40951411 >>40951612

>Counters your Dragapult

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:05:32 No.40950202 Report

Quoted By: >>40950301 >>40950409 >>40951333

>>40950186
>U-TURN

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:07:13 No.40950256 Report

Quoted By: >>40950305 >>40950480 >>40951378

Think he can tank a u-turn mathchads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:08:22 No.40950279 Report

Quoted By: >>40950329 >>40950362

>>40950186
I don’t see how people think it’s ugly. It’s unique and actually a good design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:08:43 No.40950294 Report

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>>40950186
>U-turns as you switch in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:08:49 No.40950301 Report

Quoted By: >>40950386

>>40950202
Neutral

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:09:04 No.40950305 Report

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>>40950256
it probably can tank it but then its just hitting a resisted move into whatever you pull with u turn so he ends doing nothing regardless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:10:00 No.40950329 Report

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>>40950279
it IS ugly.
But the good kind of ugly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:11:44 No.40950362 Report

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>>40950279
He is ugly, but it's very ugly-cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:12:33 No.40950386 Report

Quoted By: >>40950510 >>40950714 >>40951333

>>40950301
with those defenses? you cant tank shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:13:25 No.40950409 Report

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>>40950202
>SUCKER PUNCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:16:30 No.40950480 Report

Quoted By: >>40950546 >>40950639 >>40950682 >>40950696 >>40950796 >>40951835

>>40950256
Possible Grimmsnarl stats: 95/120/65/95/75/60

Possible Dragapult stats: 88/120/75/100/75/142

>252 Atk Choice Band Dragapult U-turn vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Grimmsnarl: 153-180 (38.8 - 45.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>252 Atk Choice Band Dragapult U-turn vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Grimmsnarl: 153-181 (46 - 54.5%) -- 59% chance to 2HKO

Grimmsnarl has to go bulky to even switch into it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:18:01 No.40950510 Report

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>>40950386
We know stats now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:19:39 No.40950546 Report

Quoted By: >>40950669

>>40950480
Man they wasted so much stats on Grimmsnarl' SpA for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:23:43 No.40950639 Report

Quoted By: >>40950798

>>40950480
Why would you not go bulky grimm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:25:08 No.40950669 Report

Quoted By: >>40950726

>>40950546
Same thing happened to hattrene except atk instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:25:44 No.40950682 Report

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>>40950480
To be fair, with Prankster and Sucker Punch along with such middling Speed, bulky Grimmsnarl is definitely the way to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:26:17 No.40950696 Report

Quoted By: >>40950767 >>40950785

>>40950480
How fucking dumb are you? The obvious ideal EV spread for Grim is 252/252/4/0/0/0.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:27:05 No.40950714 Report

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>>40950386
and great HP, it balances out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:27:31 No.40950726 Report

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>>40950669
What are hatterene's stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:28:26 No.40950747 Report

Quoted By: >>40950922

>>40950186
So... what would a Grimmsnarl do if it had to face off against another Grimmsnarl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:29:10 No.40950767 Report

Quoted By: >>40950808

>>40950696
But he does have a 252 HP 4 def Grimmsnarl in the calc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:29:48 No.40950785 Report

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>>40950696
then you calc it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:30:15 No.40950793 Report

Quoted By: >>40950832 >>40950864 >>40950914

>>40950726
61
90
96
136
103
44

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:30:21 No.40950796 Report

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>>40950480
i wanna try bulky. prankster bulk up will be nice when this thing forces switches. seems to have a lot of options

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:30:24 No.40950798 Report

Quoted By: >>40950971

>>40950639
Speed maybe? outspeeding other slow mons like tyranitar could be relevant depending on the meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:30:36 No.40950806 Report

Quoted By: >>40950864

>>40950726
57 hp, 90 atk, forgot defense, 136 sp att, 90ish sp def, 44 spe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:30:36 No.40950808 Report

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>>40950767
Yes and in that calc it can switch into U-Turn just fucking fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:30:46 No.40950814 Report

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>>40950726
57/90/96/136/102/44

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:31:25 No.40950832 Report

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>>40950793
Because lore, about KO profissional pugilists and tear apart with claws.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:32:38 No.40950864 Report

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>>40950793
>>40950806
>90 attack
For what fucking reason

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:33:27 No.40950883 Report

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>>40950186
really cool design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:34:47 No.40950914 Report

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>>40950793
Swap HP and Attack and it'd be good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:34:58 No.40950918 Report

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Anyone who hypes up this UU bait just because they like the design is exposing themselves as a huge shitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:35:00 No.40950922 Report

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>>40950747
Both Grimmsnarl use Prankster Substitute and duel it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:36:31 No.40950971 Report

Quoted By: >>40951071

>>40950798
But why? It already has prankster, you just click bulk up and kill it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:40:57 No.40951071 Report

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>>40950971
Again, it depends on the meta. Tyranitar was just an example, it could be something else, like another grimmsnarl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:42:45 No.40951117 Report

Quoted By: >>40951294

SubSalac Grimmsnarl anyone?

Grimmsnarl @ Salac Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Substitute
- Bulk Up
- Play Rough
- Knock Off

No one would see it coming

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:50:04 No.40951294 Report

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>>40951117
sub toxic proect bulk up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:51:50 No.40951333 Report

Quoted By: >>40951570

>>40950202
>>40950386
>>40950386
>prankster bulk up
>sucker punch

Did you even think this through?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:53:07 No.40951378 Report

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>>40950256
Please anon, I need more images of tank
Please

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:54:20 No.40951411 Report

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>>40950186
>HUFF PUFF
>SLOW DOWN HUFF I'M SUPPOSED TO WHEEZE COUNTER YOU
>GIVE ME A BREAK MAN I GOT LIKE 50 SPEED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 01:55:49 No.40951452 Report

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Grimsnarl probably gets pursuit though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:00:58 No.40951570 Report

Quoted By: >>40951608

>>40951333
Did you?
>bulk up
>u turn
>dragapult is no longer there to be punched
>other pokemon breathes and grimmsnarl crumbles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:02:25 No.40951608 Report

Quoted By: >>40951645

>>40951570
why do u ignore its high hp stat as if it doesnt matter

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:02:39 No.40951612 Report

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>>40950186
I Must Destroy You.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:04:28 No.40951645 Report

Quoted By: >>40951654

>>40951608
Because even Dragapult eq is enough to 2hko it after leftovers
Please forgive me for not having the numbers ready right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:04:57 No.40951654 Report

Quoted By: >>40951690

>>40951645
can dragapult learn eq

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:06:16 No.40951690 Report

Quoted By: >>40951791

>>40951654
Every pseudo can so far, so muh patterns
But even if it can't it learns other shit like flare blitz that's even stronger but still neutral

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:10:46 No.40951791 Report

Quoted By: >>40951881

>>40951690
flare blitz? wtf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:12:44 No.40951835 Report

Quoted By: >>40952420

>>40950480
couldnt u go really bulky route like
252 hp/252 def (assuming ur main thing is switching into dragapult and taking banded EQ or whatever) and then bulk up from there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:14:15 No.40951881 Report

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>>40951791
It's a confirmed TR
Extreme Speed and Brave Bird too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Nov 2019 02:33:24 No.40952420 Report

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>>40951835
That might actually work
However, is this any useful aside from dealing with Dragapult? A max attack set would pull off more weight

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