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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 18:50:02 No.41003762 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41003953 >>41004492 >>41004543 >>41004549 >>41004794

Will it just be a meme in competitive? It's not like Charizard is going to rise 2 tiers with it on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 18:54:04 No.41003895 Report

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Charizard is a meme but they'll be decent on 4x weak mons that you might actually want to run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 18:55:49 No.41003953 Report

Quoted By: >>41004296

>>41003762
Meme, why use a Pokemon who need an item just to not die in the switch when you could run a mon who dont care and has a better item?
Also, Rapid spin is better now so whatever.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:05:42 No.41004296 Report

Quoted By: >>41004777

>>41003953
>Meme, why use a Pokemon who need an item just to not die in the switch when you could run a mon who dont care and has a better item?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:11:18 No.41004492 Report

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>>41003762
Why would you even use these things on Charizard, who doesn't even hit that hard

Mr. Rime would definitely appreciate these things though, if its ability actually gets rid of screens
>remove screens
>immune to hazards with boots
>gets a speed boost with rapid spin now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:12:41 No.41004543 Report

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>>41003762
this is basically only good for volcarona (not even in the game lmao) and defoggers who are weak to rocks
gonna be the new assvest, expect every retard to have it on everything

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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:12:49 No.41004549 Report

Quoted By: >>41004650 >>41004657 >>41004875 >>41004947

>>41003762
Why not just remove Stealth Rock

It's not as if they're not in the habit of removing shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:13:17 No.41004562 Report

Quoted By: >>41004640 >>41004760

>>41004543
What about Frosmoth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:14:40 No.41004606 Report

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They'll help some Pokemon and inadvertently reduce entry hazard usage by making them less important.

Pokemon with regenerator who don't like rocks/spikes will love these too.

The best way of "nerfing" rocks is by making them less important and buffing counterplay.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:15:18 No.41004634 Report

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Imagine Charizard's feet after being in boots for hours haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:15:26 No.41004640 Report

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>>41004562
It'll be good on Frosmoth but we don't know how good Frosmoth itself will be. Honestly seems like they knew how retarded hazard-immune matchup moth would be so they removed it and added matchup moth lite to replace it.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:15:42 No.41004650 Report

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>>41004549
Flying types would be too strong.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:15:58 No.41004657 Report

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>>41004549
Moves are the one thing they won't remove. Incineroar isn't in the game, but his signature move is now a TR. As is Mystic Fire.

So I'm pretty sure most if not all signatures moves of Pokemon that aren't in Sword/Shield will becomes TRs so that the moves don't become inaccessible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:18:50 No.41004760 Report

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>>41004562
frosmoth probably gonna be shit since ice/bug is a lot worse than fire/bug, both offensively and defensively
time will tell where it ends up, but it's got absolutely no chance of being as good as volc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:19:14 No.41004777 Report

Quoted By: >>41004917 >>41005263

>>41004296
Not in the game though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:19:57 No.41004794 Report

Quoted By: >>41005003

>>41003762
Charizard will have 600 BST this gen to become galar’s 2nd pseudo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:22:21 No.41004875 Report

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>>41004549
Actually just need works like spikes and other hazards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:23:22 No.41004917 Report

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>>41004777
It'll still be on Showdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:24:09 No.41004947 Report

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>>41004549
>giving the opponent switches for free

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:25:35 No.41005003 Report

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>>41004794
Someone get Leakerchad to check on his Charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Nov 2019 19:32:20 No.41005263 Report

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>>41004777
Yeah I know. Point is, you wouldn't write off a Volcarona that trades its item for hazard immunity because Volcarona is already worth running despite the 4x Rock weakness. Same idea applies to any other 4x weak mon, boots don't make them magically good but if they're already good you're going to be fine with giving up their item to fit them on more teams.

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