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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:36:48 No.41026520 View View Reply Original Report

Reminder that things could have been worse than you think. Be glad of what you have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:37:30 No.41026537 Report

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>>41026520
Is this a joke about how the new starter evos look like bad sonic OCs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:38:22 No.41026560 Report

Quoted By: >>41026578 >>41031856

But Sonic fans actually shit on Sonic Team instead of eating up whatever they put out. That’s why Mania sold better than Sonic Forces

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:38:30 No.41026561 Report

Quoted By: >>41031856

Sonic team is better and actually listens to criticism

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:38:31 No.41026563 Report

Quoted By: >>41026772

>>41026520
>play sonic forces
>it's a shit game
>have fun anyways
>play pokemon swishieswooshie
>it's a shit game
>don't have fun
I don't see how it could possibly be worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:38:56 No.41026578 Report

Quoted By: >>41026673 >>41027109

>>41026560
This is a joke right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:39:01 No.41026580 Report

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>>41026520
I was already used to not expect much from GF just like Sonic fans are with Sonic team and I'm still disappointed, I bet it could be worse but this is still their biggest fuckup

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:40:17 No.41026617 Report

Quoted By: >>41026662 >>41026985

>>41026520
>people rightfully shit all over the movie design
>backlash so intense they actually go and change it
reminder we're officially below sonic fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:41:58 No.41026662 Report

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>>41026617
They fixed something that shouldn't have happened in the first place, it wasn't hard to just make Sonic
But I guess it's still better than doubling down in their retarded decisions

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:42:33 No.41026673 Report

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>>41026578
Did you never see the endless memes about Sonic 06 being garbage? Or them shitting on Sonic Forces? Hell even the movie got a redesign.
Although Sonic Team isn’t the only one, they’ve shat on a lot of other Sonic games. Even some old favorites, like Sonic adventure, many years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:46:03 No.41026765 Report

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>>41026520
Worse things do not... hey we already have this thread, nitwit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:46:26 No.41026772 Report

Quoted By: >>41027529

>>41026563
How can you already say you won't have fun with swsh when you haven't even played it yet, moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:49:44 No.41026885 Report

Quoted By: >>41026948

>>41026520
Will Pokemon start the equivalent of Sonic Cycle from now on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:49:47 No.41026887 Report

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>>41026520
Should be Mighty No9 logo instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:52:23 No.41026948 Report

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>>41026885
This looks more like the Zelda cycle considering how much better LGPE looks in comparison now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:52:35 No.41026954 Report

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>>41026520
sonic team doesnt dmca everything in thier sight though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:53:08 No.41026971 Report

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>>41026520

Fuck no, at least bad Sonic games are funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:53:37 No.41026985 Report

Quoted By: >>41027108 >>41027201

>>41026617
Neck yourself retard. The design was the least of problems about the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:55:49 No.41027047 Report

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>>41026887
Oh come on. Not even SWSH is THAT bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:57:17 No.41027087 Report

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>>41026887
At least I still can choose not giving GF my money

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:58:21 No.41027108 Report

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>>41026985
Greatest marketing strategy of this decade, people are already guilt tripping everyone into watching this hop shit because they "listened"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:58:21 No.41027109 Report

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>>41026578
There hasn't been any real faith in Sonic Team from the fanbase since the last few game. Generations gave them hope that they might improve in the future, but they all but squandered the goodwill from that game with everything they made afterwards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:58:32 No.41027118 Report

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>>41026520
Sonic and Pokemon are both bad franchises but Sonic is still better. Sonic at least has the decency to change shit up and a bad platformer is more entertaining than a bad RPG. Just look at some of the insane glitches in Sonic 06.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 05:59:48 No.41027149 Report

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>>41026520
Say what you will about Sonic Team, at least they fucking try out new things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:01:50 No.41027199 Report

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>>41026520
Game Freak is starting to remind me of Sonic Team a lot.
>Good ideas, god awful execution
>Long shitty cutscenes that nobody cares about are shoehorned into every game
>Games are charming, music is usually decent, everything else is still shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:01:53 No.41027201 Report

Quoted By: >>41027408

>>41026985
At least Sonic fans changed something.

You know what else they changed? Making Super Sonic Free for sonic forces.
Instead of that, Pokemon fans gladly eat up $50 Mews (twice)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:10:27 No.41027408 Report

Quoted By: >>41027507 >>41027648 >>41027767

>>41027201
We also changed Pokemon Masters and made skippable cutscenes. What's your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:15:08 No.41027507 Report

Quoted By: >>41027642

>>41027408
Masters isn't GF, it had one of the worst mobage launches I ever seen but DeNA seems truly interested in making the game better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:16:02 No.41027522 Report

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>>41026520
I'm confident at this point that Sonic Team could make a better Pokémon game than GF itself. Or, at the very least, the best OST of the whole franchise.

Also they probably wouldn't charge $60 for a subpar product (Sonic Forces cost $40).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:16:21 No.41027529 Report

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>>41026772
>when you haven't even played it yet
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:20:59 No.41027642 Report

Quoted By: >>41027687 >>41027698

>>41027507
You're also forgetting that Sonic fans want simple changes (or didn't ask at all for the new sonic).

Meanwhile Pokemon fans ask for 1000 models and postgame that takes a year to make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:21:04 No.41027648 Report

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>>41027408
>skippable cutscenes
yeah, the 2 FMV ones, while every boring dialogue is still unskippable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:22:51 No.41027687 Report

Quoted By: >>41027725 >>41027758

>>41027642
>Meanwhile Pokemon fans ask for 1000 models and postgame that takes a year to make.

I'm so tired of shills using this as the crux of their argument, when there is already substantial evidence that merely importing the models FROM THE FUCKING 2013 X AND Y FUTUREPROOFED ONES takes ZERO EFFORT WHATSOEVER.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:23:28 No.41027694 Report

Quoted By: >>41027820 >>41027831

>>41026520
Sonic general here. You faggots and your rat are far below us, lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:23:34 No.41027698 Report

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>>41027642
Good thing they've already made the models 6 years ago and even compromised on fucking up the game's performance in order to futureproof with high res models

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:25:00 No.41027725 Report

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>>41027687
It doesn't matter whether or not the models are imported. It takes way more work than you're implying. Stop being such an armchair dev

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:26:47 No.41027758 Report

Quoted By: >>41027838 >>41027951 >>41028026

>>41027687
The "future proof" models won't be future proof forever. There will eventually come a time when they need to upgrade and it's going to be a task once the series reaches 1000+ models. They're biting the bullet now to avoid that future. Yes they did it in the shittiest way possible and it should have been done sooner, but it was inevitable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:26:59 No.41027761 Report

Quoted By: >>41028094

ST is really good at anything that isn't Sonic games, look at Super Monkey Ball or Puyo Puyo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:27:21 No.41027767 Report

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>>41027408
But GameFreak made skipping the tutorial so long that its not worth skipping it.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:30:06 No.41027812 Report

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>>41026520
Gamefreak definitely created a war with it's fanbase. A complete fucking divide
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:30:50 No.41027820 Report

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>>41027694
Your games are literally worse than nu-pokemon as 85% of them can be beaten within a day. I'd say only Unleashed and the Black Knight are worth buying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:31:28 No.41027831 Report

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>>41027694
He's right you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:31:52 No.41027838 Report

Quoted By: >>41028199

>>41027758
So you're saying they fucked up 8 games just so they could threw all that effort in the trash when the time to finally put that compromise in use came? That's even worse than laziness

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:32:28 No.41027851 Report

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>>41026520
Sonic team had the balls to let the fans make a game. Game Freak's pride is their downfall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:36:17 No.41027918 Report

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>>41026520
The difference is that Sonic Team at their lowest point had no time and endless ambition. And now they're doing half-baked games because the main line game fanbase is fractured in no less than four different ways and they're trying to either maintain what little goodwill they can or try to reinvent the wheel to revive themselves.

Pokemon has pure stagnation and shows no effort to reinvent itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:37:53 No.41027951 Report

Quoted By: >>41028199

>>41027758
So, when they had to make 700+ completely new models, they not only did it all, but also went the extra mile to futureproof by making them higher res than needed, but when they only had to make the models for the few new pokemon and forms is when they decided to cut half the roster?
Sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:41:05 No.41028026 Report

Quoted By: >>41028199

>>41027758
You're talking about the company that used N64 models until the Wii, stop trying to defend this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:44:28 No.41028094 Report

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>>41027761
Sonic Team doesn't really exist anymore like it did from the 90s to 2006. It's basically just a brand name at this point for familiaritys sake. After becoming an internal dev team again a lot of the veterans were put on other projects and whenever there is young talent they get poached. So Sonic tends to end up with relatively untrained newbies working on the games and just plain incompetent fucks like Kishimoto in charge. Recently though Sonic Pillar has been set up in L.A. we don't really know much about it but Iizuka and the new head art director are there so it could basically be a new version of Sonic Team USA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:49:21 No.41028199 Report

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>>41027838
>>41027951
>>41028026
They're thinking about the future. The longer they wait to make this move the worse it gets. You really think a company wouldn't jump at the chance to reuse assets if they could? This isn't about defending anyone it's about explaining why it was going to happen eventually. Hell I even agreed it was done poorly, and just shows how little foresight they had about this situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 06:50:43 No.41028234 Report

Quoted By: >>41028555

>>41026520
Sonic '06 is unironically more entertaining to play through than Gens 6, 7 and seemingly 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 07:06:10 No.41028555 Report

Quoted By: >>41031213

>>41028234
>Unironically thinking this
Get the fuck out of here with that kind of shit, Gen 6 and 7 was fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 09:15:38 No.41031213 Report

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>>41028555
Fucking tourist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 09:42:30 No.41031817 Report

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>>41026520
at least sonic games are so broken it makes it hilarious how broken they are. Especially when people speed run it.
With pokemon we don't even get interesting glitches anymore. just boring slow cut scenes and npcs preventing us from exploring until we're over an hour in and finally done with the tutorial area.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 09:45:12 No.41031856 Report

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>>41026561
>Sonic team is better and actually listens to criticism
This

>>41026560
Also this
This.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 09:55:28 No.41032131 Report

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>>41026520
Actually, there’s much worse.

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