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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:10:03 No.41035949 View View Reply Original Report

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Tell me what's actually wrong with SwSh outside of "muh grafix" and "muh dex"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:11:29 No.41035991 Report

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>>41035949
>Tell me what's wrong with it except these specific things wrong with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:11:55 No.41036005 Report

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>what's wrong with being a pederast outside of "muh sexual abuse of toddlers"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:11:56 No.41036006 Report

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they removed “muh dex” to improve “muh graphics” and lied about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:13:00 No.41036033 Report

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>>41035949
The fact that it sets a presendent in cutting more and more features. The fact that if it's successful (which sadly will certainly be) it gives gamefreak a greencard to be even more lazy. Maybe in the next game we get only 300 mons and barebones areas/cities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:13:32 No.41036045 Report

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>>41035949
GameFreak told us both of those decisions had to be made to improve the game. I still have yet to see anything that has overall "improved" the game objectively.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:13:58 No.41036053 Report

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>>41035949

LQ bait, get out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:14:37 No.41036065 Report

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>>41035949
Muh graphics
Muh Dex
Muh difficulty level
Muh lack of battle variation
Muh post game
Muh cut scenes
Muh EVERYTHING

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:15:15 No.41036089 Report

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Lied about how they're meant for longtime fans of the series when the gameplay progression through the main story is even more braindead than SM and LGPE combined. The gym leaders don't even use items during your first match with each of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:15:44 No.41036098 Report

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The fact that none of you literally won't tell me anything's that actually wrong proves to me that swsh isn't a bad game you tards are making it out to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:15:50 No.41036101 Report

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>>41035949
You're a cocksucking cum swallower.
Also, the always on exp. share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:16:10 No.41036114 Report

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>what's 2+2 outside of 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:16:31 No.41036128 Report

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>trying to reason with involuntarily celibate retards
don't do it kid, you can't win

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:16:39 No.41036131 Report

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>>41035949
>pathetically easy
>postgame is basically nonexistent
>game structure hasn't meaningfully changed enough to warrant playing for the umpteenth time
If I were to buy it, I'd take a grand total of about 12-13 hours to experience everything the game has to offer, and I'd be bored out of my skull the entire time because this franchise refuses to try anything new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:17:00 No.41036143 Report

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Lack of content.
Lack of story.
Incredibly linear.
Incredibly short.
Overuse of cutscenes.
Overuse of character interactions.
Poor characters.
Poor level balancing.
Beyond easy.
No attention given to minor details whatsoever.
Framerate issues.
Very few high quality animations.
Wild Area has pretty much nothing to do in it.

Is essentially SM 2.0 despite GameFreak themswlves saying it would be a game for longtime fans, and would make us think "This is what I've been waiting for"
These games suck even worse than expected, yet people are still defending them cause it's Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:17:55 No.41036176 Report

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>>41035949
From the 4th gym to the Elite 4 replacement, there is only an 11 level gap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:18:08 No.41036183 Report

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>>41035949
lack of content, lack of excuses for why there is less content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:19:14 No.41036220 Report

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>>41035949
Dexit
No plot
Soccer theme region
Shitty rivals
Horrible battle music
Primitive graphics
Wild Area
Barely any new pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:19:16 No.41036221 Report

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>>41036131
>refuses to try anything new
yeah it's not like they have a new battle mechanic with new forms, or an open area wilderness, or a new multiplayer pve mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:19:37 No.41036230 Report

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>>41035949
Would be simpler if you just watched the streams when they were up to see that the question you need to ask is what isn't wrong with it.

That's an answerable question in 2K characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:19:37 No.41036231 Report

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>>41035949
It's got less content than the 3ds games on a console.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:20:17 No.41036251 Report

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>>41036143
SM was more fun than this colossal piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:21:19 No.41036283 Report

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>>41036221
Dyna is shit compared to Megas.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:21:47 No.41036303 Report

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>>41035949
Victory road is literally this image

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:22:39 No.41036323 Report

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>Elite Two

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:24:17 No.41036368 Report

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>>41036131
>pathetically easy
Pokémon games were always easy. Argument invalid.

>postgame is basically nonexistent
The post game is online battling as cab be seen with the QoL additions, as well as raid battles and a new episode. Emerald and B/W2 has poisoned your minds on what a post game ought to be. If you're treating every release like some infinite goldmine of content to be endlessly farmed then you are better off playing some other kind of RPG that caters to your autism. You are not the target demographic, its been stated already that kids do not appreciate the Frontier type post game, therefore it would be just a waste of time putting resources into a feature that 99% of players will never touch or appreciate. Pokemon games are linear story driven RPG games that you play and beat, and there is nothing wrong with that.

>game structure hasn't meaningfully changed enough to warrant playing for the umpteenth time
But it has. The Wild Area is a major new addition bringing open world elements into Pokemon for the first time. And the gyms were changed substantially too both in looks and purpose, along with Gigantamaxing among other things. It's funny how you guys bitched about there being no gyms in Sun and Moon when this is the very thing you are advocating for.

It's crazy how raging bullcmad and blinded by fury you people get just because your "bro" didn't make it in. Take a few steps back and reassess your priorities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:24:52 No.41036381 Report

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>>41035949
The final dungeon is literatley being stuck in a elevator as grunts fight you in double battles while happy Undertale music plays

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:25:29 No.41036393 Report

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>More than half the Pokémon culled
That’s so they can focus on making more quality new Pokémon!
>80% of the new Pokémon are lazy trash
So?! It’s more about the battling anyway!
>The animations are re-used and the battle backgrounds are literal voids
So?! I play for the story!
>Story is a literal hallway with cutscenes every few steps. Characters are copy pasted from old games. Endgame is non existent.
So?! It’s about the immersion and freedom!
>Towns are empty. No FLY animation. Forced EXP share.
So?! I didn’t want THOSE freedoms anyway! I just love hanging out with all my Pokémon bros!
>More than half the Pokémon culled

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:25:33 No.41036397 Report

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>>41035949
Poor choice of returning old mons that dont fit region.
Stupid "cant catch pokemon over this level till you have X badge"
Empty field as main advertised area looks disapointing
No postgame
Heal spot 4 meters away from another heal spot.
Max revive before 1st gym
Big pokemon gimmick is boring
Gigantamax designs are 90% dogshit
Most liniar region sofar
Dumbest designs of new pokemon yet
Big cities are mostly empty
Inevitable compatability issues with next years game
The lies from devs
Lack of actual new animations for old pokemon despite the fact theres a lot less of them

I could keep going..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:26:55 No.41036435 Report

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>>41036368
We've been watching the game all day you stupid nigger, it's garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:27:42 No.41036460 Report

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>wild area
>open world
love this meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:29:24 No.41036519 Report

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>>41036368
So you’re complaining about people having standards and that they want improvement over time instead of a lackluster $60 bore fest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:30:13 No.41036553 Report

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>>41036393
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:31:03 No.41036584 Report

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>>41036368
>open world elements
The wild area is a boring, empty plain with nothing to do in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:32:21 No.41036626 Report

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>>41036143
How the fuck does it over use character interaction? Having characters talk to you is bad now?

Also claiming frame rate issues when you're watching a stream of a stream? Were you dropped as a child?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:34:35 No.41036704 Report

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>>41036368
The main issue is they should start ignoring kids if those arnt intetested anymore and focus on teens and adults with disposable money who are going to appreciate the QoL changes

Right now they effectively dont appeal to kids or adults because of the mixed shitshow theyve created.

The devs are so far out of touch they are appealing only to those loyal to a brand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:35:41 No.41036740 Report

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>>41036368
>Pokemon games were always easy
Not as essy as this one.
>Emerald and B/W2 has poisoned your minds on what a post game ought to be.
Filled with content and enjoyable to play?
>it's been stated already that kids do not appreciate the Frontier type of post game
Yeah I'm sure Masuda doesn't ever speak out of his ass.
>Pokemon games are linear story driven RPG games that you play and beat
Gen 3, 4 and 5 showed they can be way more.
>The Wild Area is a major new addition bringing open world elements into Pokemon for the first time.
There's nothing in it.
>And the gyms were changed substantially too both in looks and purpose, along with Gigantamaxing among other things.
No they haven't, it's a puzzle, then a fight. Same thing as always.

>It's crazy how raging bullcmad and blinded by fury you people get just because your "bro" didn't make it in. Take a few steps back and reassess your priorities.
No, it's just cause the games suck. You can keep blaming the hate on dexit, but these games fucked up pretty much everything else as well. You shills really don't want to accept that, do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:36:51 No.41036781 Report

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>>41036368
>Emerald and B/W2 has poisoned your minds on what a post game ought to be
Every game since XY has been lackluster in postgame and have been heavily criticized for it. When we were told this was going to be one for the longtime fans, we hoped that would include a postgame. Or anything at all.
>Pokemon games are linear story driven RPG games that you play and beat, and there is nothing wrong with that.
For you, maybe. For me Pokemon games are games I dump hundreds of hours into each generation, breeding and training new pokemon and even catching em all.
To dedicated fans, who this was supposed to be for, this is a kick in the dick. Ribbon collectors are shafted. Living dex collectors are shafted. Shiny hunters are shafted. I'm shafted, so I wouldn't enjoy the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:38:49 No.41036852 Report

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>>41036704
Honestly you don't even have to resort to that argument. Plenty of kids have picked up the series from every generation and have been just fine. Gen one are still the highest selling games in the series by a fair margin and they don't hold the player's hand anywhere near modern releases. Sure there's more features now, but the game does a pretty shitty job of explaining the phys/spec split for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:39:57 No.41036882 Report

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In the end pokemon is focused towards kids, adults make up the minority

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:42:19 No.41036959 Report

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>>41036368

if pokemon games were always as easy as this, then i don't think the franchise would have become so popular, you realize that kids back then felt good about beating the game because of how much it beat them back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:43:03 No.41036990 Report

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>>41036882
Kids are stupid but even they don't deserve piles of shit shoveled at them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:43:28 No.41037004 Report

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>>41035949
Without mentioning the graphics or cut Pokemon
>Linear map yet again
>Cutscenes everywhere yet again
>EXP share is forced this time
>And no, the game is not balanced around it
>Despite this, they still won’t let you catch higher leveled Pokemon, which could be 5 levels higher than your own, so you could easily miss out on a shiny
>Weather effects are based on location rather than randomized time despite being on the fucking Switch
>Paywalls to collect everything
>TRs now exist and they are TMs but not unlimited and are the good moves you would want to get, making it a complete regression for no reason
>Skipping the catching tutorial requires more effort than watching it
>Post game is yet again just a battle tower clone and 2 hour episode
>10 routes, no post game
>Smaller Regional Dex than XY
>Even less battle backgrounds than XY as well (which is aesthetics, not graphics)
>Battle Backgrounds will just teleport you to different areas
>Humans just turn without moving their legs and they can still only walk in a straight line
>Size isn’t fixed
>Lillie 2.0/N 3.0
>Way too much focus in humans
>Humanoid monotype starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:49:26 No.41037208 Report

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>>41036990
Yet majority of the players are kids, so the devs dont give a dick shit about your opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:58:37 No.41037514 Report

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>>41036626
>Having characters talk to is bad now?
When you're getting stopped by Hop, Leon, Sonia, Bede and Marnie more than you got stopped by Hau and Lillie then yeah, it is.
>Also claiming frame rate issues when you were watching a stream of a stream?
There were plenty of framerate drops even when the stream was just fine, and it happened pretty fucking frequently. Did you not watch the stream?

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Trypp F'haag !!bZFPoDj7jq3 Mon 11 Nov 2019 13:59:25 No.41037544 Report

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>Short
>Full of cutscenes and corridors
>Easy
>Forced Exp. Share
>Shitty postgame
>Currydex haha
>Removed Megas/ZMs
>$60
Also, they cut "muh dex" while lying that they improved "muh grafix" in return, which they didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:00:06 No.41037562 Report

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>>41035949
>Tell me what's actually wrong with SwSh
Everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:03:25 No.41037668 Report

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Muh effort.

If Kojima can have such production values for a new franchise for $60, pokemon sure can; instead we get a game with no effort.

No story, bad gameplay (frame drops), bad backgrounds, cut content, no voice acting, etc.

If they include only the 60% of the game, they should only charge 60% of the price(60% of $40).

It feels like a ripoff

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:04:46 No.41037710 Report

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>>41037208

Can you prove it is kids?

Kids these days play minecraft and fornite, not pokemon.

I think the bulk of sales come from manchildren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:07:06 No.41037787 Report

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>>41036584

And is a small cage aswell.

Pokeshills have never played an actual open world game. "Buuu-buu i can control the camera: open world pokemon game"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:09:54 No.41037878 Report

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>>41036626
>Having characters talk to you is bad now?
Did you never play SM or USUM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:12:51 No.41038011 Report

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>>41036626
>How the fuck does it over use character interaction? Having characters talk to you is bad now?
Well, in S/M, you were constantly bombarded with scenes and interactions with Lilly and Hao, who were effectively cardboard cut-outs only capable of a handful of stock phrases and one major character trait.

So going the entire game with "malasadas" this and "wow Trainer you're so cool, I wish I was cool" that, every 5 minutes or so, it's gonna be a bit fucking much.
And if SWSH does it all over again, just another reason I'm glad SM killed Pokémon for me.

>claiming frame rate issues when you're watching a stream
Anyone who isn't retarded can figure out the difference between a stream dropping frames and the game dropping frames.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:25:25 No.41038555 Report

Quoted By: >>41039327

How fast did the streamer beat the game? Is it about as long as an run through of any other game in the series? I recently did a run through of B2 and beat it in about 11 hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:43:55 No.41039327 Report

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>>41038555

14:34

He did everything bar going into every house.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Nov 2019 14:53:19 No.41039686 Report

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>>41035949

-Practically no story
-Uninteresting gimmicks
-Routes with minimal exploration
-Bigger cakewalk than XY
-Removed moves
-18 gym leaders but you only see and fight 8?
-Minimal postgame
-Wild area a waste of open range Pokemon setting
-Barely an improvement over SM

Also
-Bad graphics
-Less pokemon than the past 4 gens and lied about the reason
Because fuck you.

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