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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:08:15 No.41075033 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41075264 >>41075314 >>41076182 >>41076230 >>41078694 >>41078732

I'm still mad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:14:54 No.41075264 Report

Quoted By: >>41075349 >>41076576

>>41075033
>Ice Scales The Pokémon is protected by ice scales, which halve the damage taken from special moves.

Frosmoth could be usable with this + Heavy Duty Boots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:15:12 No.41075279 Report

Quoted By: >>41075335

Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:16:21 No.41075314 Report

Quoted By: >>41075385 >>41075404

>>41075033
TTar has the same speed and it has been OU for over 20 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:16:46 No.41075335 Report

Quoted By: >>41075730 >>41076263 >>41076757 >>41077028 >>41079993

>>41075279
>why?

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851 - Centiskorch (Stage: 2)
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Galar Dex: #160
Base Stats: 100.115.65.90.90.65 (BST: 525)

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873 - Frosmoth (Stage: 2)
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Galar Dex: #350
Base Stats: 70.65.60.125.90.65 (BST: 475)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:17:02 No.41075349 Report

Quoted By: >>41078056

>>41075264
honestly this gen feels like its shaping up to be the physical attacker paradise

Trying to use Frosmoth as a tank might be doomed to fail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:18:12 No.41075385 Report

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>>41075314
TTar has a lot more going for it and as a weather setter it actually benefits from its lower speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:18:40 No.41075404 Report

Quoted By: >>41075462

>>41075314
>and it has better defenses
>and a better move pool
>and better typing
>and a very significant ability with sand stream

pls don't pretend ttar is in any way comparable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:20:34 No.41075462 Report

Quoted By: >>41075520 >>41075724

>>41075404
max SpAtk modest Frosmoth with a Quiver Dance boost can't OHKO Tyranitar with Bug Buzz

They did mothbro so dirty

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:22:39 No.41075520 Report

Quoted By: >>41075777

>>41075462
idk which is worse, moth at least seems to have some kind of role as a special tank I guess? but it's pretty bad at it.

centiskorch on the other hand... idk what you're even supposed to do with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:28:19 No.41075724 Report

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>>41075462
life orb variants will ohko non-specially defensive tars at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:28:26 No.41075730 Report

Quoted By: >>41075785 >>41077469

>>41075335
>475 BST
Why is it so weak...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:29:47 No.41075777 Report

Quoted By: >>41075884

>>41075520
it's ok at it, the HA is very strong and it gets giga drain
I don't know though, there are better options

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:29:59 No.41075785 Report

Quoted By: >>41075833

>>41075730
because game freak hates us
>they made the fossile abominations good
>they did this to the best new mons in the games
they're sick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:31:46 No.41075833 Report

Quoted By: >>41075937

>>41075785
>Fossil Abominations are good
How are you supposed to use them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:33:34 No.41075884 Report

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>>41075777
What's its HA?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:35:13 No.41075937 Report

Quoted By: >>41076142

>>41075833
they all have slush rush/sand rush HA's they're good on weather teams, the water/dragon one oddly has sand rush so he's an interesting inclusion on sand teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:41:14 No.41076142 Report

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>>41075937
won't they take damage from the weather tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:42:31 No.41076182 Report

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>>41075033

And we should care that you are mad? Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:42:52 No.41076190 Report

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>>41076142
Mons with Sand Rush don't take Sandstorm damage. And the Arcto fossils are already Ice, so they won't take hail damage either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:43:25 No.41076209 Report

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>>41076142
No. The rush abilities negate the damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:44:06 No.41076230 Report

Quoted By: >>41076338 >>41076369

>>41075033
What's to be mad about? They're both viable and the designs are fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:45:08 No.41076263 Report

Quoted By: >>41076302 >>41076338

>>41076142
Weather Abilities nullify damage from the related weather conditions.

>>41075335
What the fuck order are these stats in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:46:12 No.41076302 Report

Quoted By: >>41076516

>>41076263
The usual. HP/Atk/Def/SpAtk/SpDef/Spe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:46:46 No.41076338 Report

Quoted By: >>41076516

>>41076230
>viable
in game sure, that's about it
>>41076263
hp/attack/defense/special attack/special defense/speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:47:18 No.41076369 Report

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>>41076230
Designs are good. Competitive viability is not. At all. Not by a long shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:51:03 No.41076516 Report

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>>41076302
>>41076338
How is Frosmoth’s speed that fucking low? Base 65 SPE at level 65 with MAX IVs and EVs is 149, and I know that’s not EV trained.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:52:46 No.41076576 Report

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>>41075264
With that + Quiver Dance and Aurora Veil there is probly some kind of hope for this thing but it’s not OU

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 04:57:50 No.41076757 Report

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>>41075335
Fuck. I never should have gotten my hopes up that she would be Volcarona: Ice Edition. Fucking Gamefreak.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 05:06:12 No.41077028 Report

Quoted By: >>41077135

>>41075335
re:Frosmoth

It doesn’t add up, unless it’s got a lot of EVs in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 05:09:26 No.41077135 Report

Quoted By: >>41077258

>>41077028
Leakchad mentioned that the Frosmoth he showed us a part of his team, so it'd make sense for it to have a lot of EVs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 05:13:28 No.41077258 Report

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>>41077135
I guess? But that means he nearly maxed its Speed while the other stats were barely touched, which is really odd for a party mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 05:14:39 No.41077284 Report

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I don't think centiscorch is that bad, its just not some busted as fuck 140/140 offensive sweeper like everyone wanted. Coil + leech life recovery is nice. I like bulk mons though

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 05:20:53 No.41077469 Report

Quoted By: >>41077941

>>41075730
Its Hidden Ability halves special damage, like its own permanent Light Screen.
This makes its effective Special Defense stat at around base 200, and its effective Base Stat Total at around 585.
There's no denying the worth in that Special bulk, even if it is lacking in Physical bulk and Speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 05:37:16 No.41077941 Report

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>>41077469
Too bad it dies in a stiff breeze and everyone is going to be able to hit it first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 05:41:55 No.41078056 Report

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>>41075349
There's also plenty of physical walls though, and chansey is missing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 06:07:25 No.41078694 Report

Quoted By: >>41078847 >>41079012

>>41075033
>LOW STATS BAD
Why are competitive players so uncreative until someone else does well with a low bst mon and then they all copy it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 06:09:01 No.41078732 Report

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>>41075033
Orbeetle dabs on you losers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 06:13:45 No.41078847 Report

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>>41078694
There's nothing special about them except Frosmoth's double SDEF, and it has no recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 06:19:44 No.41079012 Report

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>>41078694
because they KILLED good mons to bring in this trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 06:55:53 No.41079993 Report

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>>41075335
Just a +20 Speed could have saved Frosmoth

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