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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:25:29 No.41104709 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41104784 >>41104998 >>41105066 >>41105167 >>41105197 >>41105241 >>41105257 >>41105280 >>41105439 >>41106206 >>41106850 >>41110939

>Nintendo owns 1/3 of the franchise and has positioned SWSH as the big Holiday 2019 game
>Creatures is literally listed as being a co-developer
>Only Game Freak is taking the heat for this

Is this be the biggest con job Nintendo's ever pulled? People are practically begging Nintendo to shut down Game Freak and take direct, full control of the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:27:25 No.41104784 Report

Quoted By: >>41104836 >>41111241

>>41104709
Shows how smooth brained dextrannies are.
Same with Masuda. He's the meat shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:28:52 No.41104836 Report

Quoted By: >>41105140

>>41104784
>Masuda delivers best games in series
>His incompetent team fucks up once and is pushed by Nintendo
>Dexfags genuinely wish death to him
The absolute STATE of dexfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:31:28 No.41104944 Report

Quoted By: >>41105017 >>41105165

Has Masuda explained why GF is so opposed to doing expansions instead of updated versions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:33:13 No.41104998 Report

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>>41104709
creatures do only the models, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:33:39 No.41105017 Report

Quoted By: >>41105142

>>41104944
Because updated versions have a higher price tag. People would not pay 40 dollars for three more ultra beasts, move tutors and readded legendaries but they will buy USUM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:35:12 No.41105066 Report

Quoted By: >>41105257

>>41104709
>Implying Nintendo shutting Game Freak and taking full control of the series isn't a great thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:37:21 No.41105140 Report

Quoted By: >>41105213 >>41105295

>>41104836
>Masua delivered the best games
Masuda delivered more of the same. He is one of the reasons why Pokémon has been so stagnant ever since RSE. Each and every game barely improves upon the latter, and the transition from 2D to 3D has been dramatic to say the least. Fuck. Masuda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:37:30 No.41105142 Report

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>>41105017
>implying Ultra Hallwaypolis alone wasn’t worth $40 + tip

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:38:09 No.41105165 Report

Quoted By: >>41107403

>>41104944
How are they going to sell $10 worth of content for $60 over two versions if they do an expansion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:38:09 No.41105167 Report

Quoted By: >>41105345

>>41104709
All creatures does is handle the licensing of Pokemon and making the models/sprites.
Although Nintendo can be blamed for not stepping in or delaying the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:39:00 No.41105197 Report

Quoted By: >>41105315

>>41104709
nintendofags are as bad as game freak apologists when it comes to shilling for their corporate gods. what else is new?
anyone with a brain their head knows that nintendo has plenty of responsibility for the shit state of the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:39:26 No.41105213 Report

Quoted By: >>41105381

>>41105140
Yeah, fuck Masuda, leave Ohmori in charge with his garbage world design, endless cutscenes and friend sim shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:40:14 No.41105241 Report

Quoted By: >>41105499

>>41104709
Yeah, and it was all Sony's fault that spider man was removed from the MCU. People either don't know or don't care. All that matters is that first impression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:40:38 No.41105257 Report

Quoted By: >>41105315 >>41105318 >>41106206

>>41104709

nintendofags are as bad as game freak apologists when it comes to shilling for their corporate gods. what else is new?
anyone with a brain in their head knows that nintendo has plenty of responsibility for the shit state of the franchise.
>>41105066
yeah, just let miyamoto meddle with the series. what could go wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:41:14 No.41105280 Report

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>>41104709
nintendo doesnt directly touch the series, you dolt. creatures doesnt handle the actual gameplay development, or even a majority of the visuals. they just handle pokemon modeling for the most part

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:41:38 No.41105295 Report

Quoted By: >>41105702

>>41105140
>He is one of the reasons why Pokémon has been so stagnant ever since RSE. Each and every game barely improves upon the latter

As much as I hate what's become of the series, gen 4 and 5 were both big improvements, with BW2 as almost the objectively best game in the series. Of course, the series never recovered after the traumatic transition from 2D to 3D, but to say all of the Masuda games were bad, or that nothing after RSE was significant is wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:42:17 No.41105315 Report

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>>41105197
>>41105257
>literal samefagging

anyway nothing miyamoto could do would be worse than what ohmori and masuda are currently doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:42:20 No.41105318 Report

Quoted By: >>41106243

>>41105257
Miyamoto hasn't meddled with anything in quite a long time. But also, yeah, I'm pretty sure he could make a better job than fucking Masuda or Ohmori.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:42:44 No.41105345 Report

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>>41105167
Has Creatures ever worked on anything that isn't Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:43:32 No.41105381 Report

Quoted By: >>41105529

>>41105213
To me, nobody at Game Freak is able to make a good Pokémon game anymore. Just retire Game Freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:45:13 No.41105439 Report

Quoted By: >>41105660

>>41104709
>blame the publisher, not the developer
A-anon, you’re n-not actually that irredeemably retarded, a-are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:47:18 No.41105499 Report

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>>41105241
What? Disney was also at fault

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:48:08 No.41105529 Report

Quoted By: >>41105691

>>41105381
>only person to rise the carreer path in Game Freak since gen 5 is an art director.
>Who made some of the most controversial designs ever
>who just released a reddit and linux mascot slapped togheter
well then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:52:32 No.41105660 Report

Quoted By: >>41106575

>>41105439
>Nintendo
>Just a publisher

Just like how Disney is only Marvel’s distributor, right?

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:53:18 No.41105691 Report

Quoted By: >>41107337

>>41105529
you must have some pretty exclusive insider info if you already know without a doubt that turner designed eiscue

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:53:40 No.41105702 Report

Quoted By: >>41109632

>>41105295
Are you kidding me? Pokémon has been basically the same game from gen 2 forward. Saying gen 4 and 5 were "big" improvements is completely absurd, specially when Mario and Zelda, the two other big franchises in Nintendo's power, improved immensely in the same time period.

When you compare the games within the same franchise, yes, they were the most significant step forward, but when you compare it with any other gaming franchise, it's easy to see how little Pokémon has progressed over the years. It has gotten to a point where a fucking DIGIMON game is better and more dynamic. That would be unthinkable before gen 3 was released.

They only slightly improve mechanics in gen 4 and 5 (like with the special/physical split), but the combat continued to be the most boring turn based possible (even modern turn based RPGs tweek it a little to make it more dinamic nowadays), the story's gotten a lot worse (tired of having to fight god Pokémon EVERY game, can't they hire a writer for once?) and the designs have gotten more and more inconsistent.

Pokémon showed a lot of potential up until gen 2. Then it became the same game with a fresh coat of pant ever since Masuda assumed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:07:07 No.41106206 Report

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>>41104709
Nintendo also owns Creatures and Creatures only do modelling stuff the real culprit is TPC of which Nintendo is part of.

>>41105257
Wasn't Miyamoto involved in Colosseum?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:08:25 No.41106243 Report

Quoted By: >>41106319

>>41105318
he literally ruined paper mario and star fox with his meddling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:10:31 No.41106319 Report

Quoted By: >>41106936

>>41106243
Star Fox sure, although the reality is that it's an IP that's not longer fit for the current video game landscape. Paper Mario was more of IS and Tanabe's fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:18:30 No.41106575 Report

Quoted By: >>41110846

>>41105660
>Nintendo
>Not just a publisher
They couldn't even get the rights to give the Pokemon Amiibo costumes in Mario Maker sound effects. What makes you think they have any say on how they make games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:27:26 No.41106850 Report

Quoted By:

>>41104709
Masuda has always been the meatshield despite not directing much nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:29:43 No.41106936 Report

Quoted By:

>>41106319
>it's an IP that's not longer fit for the current video game landscape.
this is the type of excuse that only gets made when nintendo neglects a franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:42:13 No.41107337 Report

Quoted By:

>>41105691
>take
>ami
What

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:43:58 No.41107403 Report

Quoted By:

>>41105165
They could split the content in 10 expansions and sell them for $10 each

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 00:49:42 No.41109632 Report

Quoted By: >>41110880

>>41105702
Pokemon may not have made the biggest of transitions Through out the years, but sayung evergy gamr past gen 2 has made little to no inprovementa veyod graphical updates and psychical/special split is strait up bullshit. Every gen had added gameplay addition that fucking improved on what was already established; The Vs. Seeker, Online Play, PSS, every goddamn item and Pokemon that has been added, even the fucking Rotomdex and Z-moves - I don't give a shit if those last two get me smited, they were the best gameplay additions we had in YEARS. they all added something cool and unique to the simple gameplay.

To be honest, who gives a shit if the main series stays a turned based RPG? It fucking works. It's unironally fun and easy to get into along side the type-matchup and items to explore. And yeah, the fucking defeatist, but you can't blame a company for sticking to their bread and butter when you know it'll sell well. Remember all the OTHER times Pokemon tried to branch out? Besides Mystery Dungeon, none of them get any substantial attention (And no, Colosseum and GoD don't count. Those were mediocre games at best and the only reason /vp/ likes them is because it's contraionism at its finest)

TL;DR Pokemon has definatly, without a blood doubt, been innovating. It's just that the cycle at which these games are being pushed out is hampering GF's potential cause whether you agree or not, the DO make some good fucking Pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 01:27:54 No.41110846 Report

Quoted By: >>41111183

>>41106575
(citation needed)
Not giving Pokémon more bells and whistles than everyone else doesn't mean shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 01:28:56 No.41110880 Report

Quoted By:

>>41109632
Can one man shill this hard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 01:31:12 No.41110939 Report

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>>41104709
I mean, that's exactly the issue though? Nintendo usually keeps a neutral instance and let's GameFreak do their thing, that's why people are asking for Nintendo to get directly involved and actually develop Pokemon. Nintendo's fault here was not stepping in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 01:40:20 No.41111183 Report

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>>41110846
>Not giving Pokémon more bells and whistles than everyone else doesn't mean shit.
That's the opposite though. The Pokemon mystery costumes in the base game of the original Mario Maker didn't have licensed pokemon sounds, only using generic Mario stuff, while even third parties like Sonic and Megaman, alongside other shared franchises like Fire Emblem had licensed sounds. A long time later they did add some extra costumes and those came with sounds though, but they only managed that after Mario Maker was a big success and they were getting all kinds of third party stuff.

Pokemon also got completely excluded from some other Amiibo support, like skins in Mario Kart and Yoshi Woolie World (where once again they had some third party stuff like Ryu, Mega Man and Sonic and yet couldn't get Pokemon).

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 01:42:06 No.41111241 Report

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>>41104784
>d-dextrannies!

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