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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:00:49 No.41120476 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41120588 >>41120668 >>41120684 >>41124690

Do we have any movesets brewing? They seem competitively viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:04:57 No.41120588 Report

Quoted By: >>41120785 >>41122172 >>41124850

>>41120476
>Rillaboom
Tapu Bulu lite, any set it can pull off that he had last gen
>Cinderace
Banded, using its crazy coverage to kill anything it sees.
>Inteleon
Specs hydro pump w/ torrent. Focus energy + mud shot if you really wanna kill Pex with its HA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:07:24 No.41120640 Report

Quoted By: >>41120753 >>41121147

Rillaboom - Grassy Surge

252 Atk/252 Spe – Jolly @ Leftovers
- Leech Seed
- Wood Hammer
- Knock Off
- Earthquake/Bulk Up/Drain Punch

Cinderace - Libero

252 Atk/252 Spe – Jolly @ Life Orb
- Pyro Ball
- High Jump Kick
- U-turn
- Gunk Shot/Sucker Punch

Inteleon - Torrent

252 SpAtk/252 Spe – Timid @ Choice Specs
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball
- U-turn/Scald

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:08:46 No.41120668 Report

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>>41120476
Cinderace is essentially a slightly slower Greninja that doesn't run mixed. Will likely run banded sets.

Rillaboom is just fucking Tapu Bulu and will play exactly the same

Intelleon......I guess specs sets in lower tiers? Honestly this thing got screwed both coverage and ability wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:09:49 No.41120684 Report

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>>41120476
>Rillaboom
Whatever Bulu can use, it can pull it off as well. It gets High Horsepower, which is not affected by Grassy Terrain.
Really cool overall.

>Cinderace
Life Orb, Choice Scarf/Band or even a more supportive set with Court Change I guess.
Pretty straightforward.

>Inteleon
Nothing interesting really.
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball/ Dark Pulse
- U-turn/ Air Slash if you really need to hit some Fighting or Bug types I guess.
Specs or LO, that's pretty much it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:10:54 No.41120708 Report

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Do we know if there’s any way to change normal abilities to hidden abilities in game? It seems crazy to me that everything but HA are no longer unobtainable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:13:10 No.41120753 Report

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>>41120640
Zen Headbutt on Cinderace could be good for dealing with Toxapex

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:14:59 No.41120785 Report

Quoted By: >>41121059

>>41120588
Bro, will you be any movesets for obstagoon? It seems a tank or bulky with its HA but I hoped like sucker punch/ Belly drum/extreme speed/other move like hoennian linoone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:20:53 No.41120898 Report

Quoted By: >>41120941 >>41124823

Inteleon @ Scope Lens
Ability: Sniper
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spe
Timid
Scald / Hydro Pump
Mud Shot
Ice Beam
Focus Energy

252 SpA Sniper Vaporeon Mud Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Toxapex on a critical hit: 153-180 (50.3 - 59.2%) -- 74.6% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery

252 SpA Sniper Vaporeon Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 232+ SpD Ferrothorn on a critical hit: 142-168 (40.3 - 47.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Maybe not OU material, but I always thought Critdra was fun and this guy is basically just that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:23:06 No.41120941 Report

Quoted By: >>41121008

>>41120898
>critdra without a 130BP move to spam

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:26:05 No.41121008 Report

Quoted By: >>41124732

>>41120941
Hydro Pump is close at 110BP and Inteleon has more Sp.Atk and Spe. Unless I'm fucking something up It actually ends up barely noticable stronger.

252 SpA Sniper Kingdra Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Chansey on a critical hit: 244-289 (34.7 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

(Inteleon)
252 SpA Sniper Vaporeon Hydro Pump vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Chansey on a critical hit: 252-297 (35.8 - 42.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:28:28 No.41121059 Report

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>>41120785
Reckless@Choice Band
Adamant 252 atk 252 speed
- Double Edge
- Knock Off
- Play Rough
- Close Combat or Superpower (I don't remember which one it gets)

Guts@Leftovers
Jolly max speed, bit of HP and Sp.def
- Bulk Up
- Knock Off
- Body Slam (or Facade)
- Whatever you need, Drain Punch if it gets it (Don't remember either)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 07:33:05 No.41121147 Report

Quoted By: >>41121899

>>41120640
>earthquake
He would have High Horsepower instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 08:07:48 No.41121899 Report

Quoted By: >>41121943 >>41122002

>>41121147
There's literally no reason to use that over EQ, it's lower accuracy and weaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 08:10:16 No.41121943 Report

Quoted By: >>41123072

>>41121899
Grassy Surge halves EQ damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 08:12:21 No.41121995 Report

Quoted By: >>41122038

Would it be viable to keep the overgrow boost and just run grassy terrain as a move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 08:12:48 No.41122002 Report

Quoted By: >>41123072

>>41121899
....?
Earthquake has its damage halved by the terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 08:14:33 No.41122038 Report

Quoted By: >>41122082

>>41121995
It means operating at low HP and needing to get hit to be effective, so now he's weak to priority and can't take hits even when he really gets going, you can cheese people but it's inconsistent and consistency is the most important part of viability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 08:17:15 No.41122082 Report

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>>41122038
I’m just playing devils advocate because knowing GameFreak all that bullshit about “keeping your beloved starters and taking them into competitive” is completely nullified by the fact that they have OP hidden abilities that your very first starter can’t get. I wanted to pick Grookey but now I don’y know what to do since I’ll just be dropping it for the hidden ability one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 08:21:44 No.41122172 Report

Quoted By: >>41124786

>>41120588
doesn't cinderace get protean? that + coverage seems great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 09:05:58 No.41123072 Report

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>>41121943
>>41122002
Oh I see, my bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 10:48:43 No.41124690 Report

Quoted By: >>41124784

>>41120476
No Hidden Power is going to hurt the lizard really fucking badly. It's at best UU material because it gets walled by a lot of things due to having no coverage options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 10:52:23 No.41124732 Report

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>>41121008
Seems pretty neat for rain teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 10:55:07 No.41124784 Report

Quoted By: >>41124886 >>41124914

>>41124690
Hidden power doesn't exist anymore lad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 10:55:12 No.41124786 Report

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>>41122172
Yes but band or even scarf (Idk it's base speed) sets could be a thing, specs greninja is a valid set

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 10:58:00 No.41124823 Report

Quoted By: >>41124952

>>41120898
Inteleon's signature move has increased crit chance as well, according to the move datamine.
Does that stack with scope lens and sniper?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 10:59:18 No.41124850 Report

Quoted By:

>>41120588
>banded
fucking retard, cinderace was literally made for LO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 11:01:29 No.41124886 Report

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>>41124784
Yeah that's what I said.
>no hidden power

It's going to hurt a lot of special sweepers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 11:03:10 No.41124914 Report

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>>41124784
Excuse my ESL English. I'm posting from my phone.

I shouldve said "having no HP in the game is going to hurt his viability"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 11:05:45 No.41124952 Report

Quoted By: >>41125109

>>41124823
It still isn't worth to use over Hydro Pump. I mean, unless you're running lens, but that's a funny meme set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 11:15:30 No.41125109 Report

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>>41124952
Base critical hit is 6.25%. +1 is 12.5%, +2 is 50%
Could be fun.

But not as fun as Kingdra and Focus Energy

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