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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:16:43 No.41140253 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41140491 >>41140555 >>41140620 >>41140712 >>41140850 >>41140862 >>41141231 >>41141757 >>41142263

Here's how the Original Dragon should be done
>Pure Dragon
>Has the Dragon equivalent of Aerialate
>Also gets STAB on Electric and Fire moves
>New signature move is a buffed version of Tri Attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:24:02 No.41140491 Report

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>>41140253
agree

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:25:52 No.41140555 Report

Quoted By: >>41140680 >>41140862 >>41141254

>>41140253
>Dragon
>ability: Energy of Souls
>effect: all fire, electric and ice moves deal 1.5 more damage
>signature move: Call of the Origin; Dragon type move, 160 BP; 20% chance to burn, paralyze or freeze; this move is physical if attack is higher than special attack, special if the opposite
Yup, I’m thinking it’s powercreep

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:27:48 No.41140620 Report

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>>41140253
I think its ability should be a renamed No Guard. It seems like the logical progression after Turboblaze/Teravolt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:29:38 No.41140680 Report

Quoted By: >>41140862 >>41140951 >>41141309

>>41140555
Checked, but the Original Dragon shouldn't have anything to do with Ice. Kyurem is the cold corpse, the absolute zero of removing both truth and ideals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:30:16 No.41140712 Report

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>>41140253
Make his ability a Dragon equivalent of Delta Stream and you got the best dragon type of all time

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:34:09 No.41140829 Report

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>Reshiram: Flames spew from its tail as it flies through the sky like a jet airplane. It’s said that this Pokémon will scorch the world.
Why is the hero of mankind going to bring the apocalypse

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:34:53 No.41140850 Report

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>>41140253
wow I actually agree on that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:35:14 No.41140862 Report

Quoted By: >>41141254

>>41140253
>>41140555
>>41140680
>>41140712
>Type: Dragon
Ability: Draconic (Removes all of Dragon type's weaknesses)
Hidden ability: Energy of Souls (Fire, Electric and Ice deal x1.5 damage)
Movepool: Can learn all of Zekrom, Reshiram and Kyurem's moves as well as flying type moves

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:37:45 No.41140951 Report

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>>41140680
If they ever make the original dragon it will be a kyurem form because they'll need to it to split apart so itll keep kyurem movepool.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:47:26 No.41141231 Report

Quoted By: >>41141315 >>41141327

Reminder that Kyurem represents the absence of energy and is thus the very opposite of the Original Dragon.

>>41140253
How the heck does it get two abilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:48:04 No.41141254 Report

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>>41140862
>>41140555
Hidden Ability is unnecessary, but overall this is a great idea. I love Kyurem, and the Tao Trio are genuinely the last mainline legends I've actually cared about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:49:38 No.41141309 Report

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>>41140680
It should be Dragon/Water because ice + heat & energy = water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:49:51 No.41141315 Report

Quoted By: >>41141358

>>41141231
>Reminder that Kyurem represents the absence of energy and is thus the very opposite of the Original Dragon.
We don't know what the fuck was up with original dragon. If it has powerful control of energy then logically it should be able to remove energy as well as generate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:50:21 No.41141327 Report

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>>41141231
This, absolutely. Kyruem is despair, the absence of truth and ideals.

The original dragon is a cool concept, but I'm glad they didn't approach it. It's nice to have it as something that's possible, but never fully achieved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:50:39 No.41141333 Report

Quoted By: >>41141464 >>41141467 >>41141631 >>41142334

>>41141254
Their new dex entries are pretty based.
Reshiram:
>Flames spew from its tail as it flies through the sky like a jet airplane. It’s said that this Pokémon will scorch the world.
>According to myth, if people ignore truth and let themselves become consumed by greed, Reshiram will arrive to burn their kingdoms down.
Zekrom:
>When the interior part of its tail spins like a motor, Zekrom can generate many bolts of lightning to blast its surroundings.
>Mythology tells us that if people lose the righteousness in their hearts, their kingdoms will be razed by Zekrom’s lightning.
Kyurem:
>Dwelling within it is a power even greater than that of Reshiram or Zekrom, but the extreme cold keeps that power bound.
>It appears that this Pokémon uses its powers over ice to freeze its own body in order to stabilize its cellular structure.
White Kyurem:
>The sameness of Reshiram’s and Kyurem’s genes allowed Kyurem to absorb Reshiram. Kyurem can now use the power of both fire and ice.
>It has foreseen that a world of truth will arrive for people and Pokémon. It strives to protect that future.
Black Kyurem:
>It’s said that this Pokémon battles in order to protect the ideal world that will exist in the future for people and Pokémon.
>The sameness of Zekrom’s and Kyurem’s genes allowed Kyurem to absorb Zekrom. Kyurem can now use the power of both electricity and ice.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:51:28 No.41141358 Report

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>>41141315
>Original Dragon gets another signature move besides Ultra Tri Attack
>it allows it to steal other pokemon's PP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:53:05 No.41141412 Report

Quoted By: >>41141478 >>41141537

gay. it should be the only pokemon with 3 typings

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:54:30 No.41141464 Report

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>>41141333
Based trips, and Pokedex entry's

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:54:35 No.41141467 Report

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>>41141333
Good lord i fucking love the lore between the Tao Trio so much
It's the closest thing we ever got to box legendaries feeling like believable deities that make sense within their game world and boast actual spiritual meaning

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:54:55 No.41141477 Report

Quoted By: >>41141520 >>41141537

Absolute cringe itt
>Energy of Souls
Like are you 5

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:54:57 No.41141478 Report

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>>41141412
and be 4x weak to ground? no thank you.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:55:59 No.41141520 Report

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>>41141477
>he says this posting on /vp/

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:56:20 No.41141537 Report

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>>41141477
Welcome to Pokemon, a fictional, children's, franchise.
>>41141412
>3 typings
Worst idea I've heard today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:58:00 No.41141595 Report

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should be Bug/Dragon just so we finally have one because bugs are attracted to both light and heat and also so Kyurem itself wrecks it since that’s thematically interesting

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:58:53 No.41141631 Report

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>>41141333
Best box legends

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 20:59:38 No.41141662 Report

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>>41141358
Speaking of signatures, it always bothered me how Black Kyurem doesn't get Bolt Strike, and White Kyurem doesn't get Blue Flare. They get Fusion Bolt, and Fusion Flare, but not the true signature moves? I don't even think the Original Dragon would need another signature, considering it'd get Zekrom's, Reshiram's, and Kyurem's.

Even further than that, it'd be nice if they somewhat buffed Kyurem's signature moves. Remove the two turn charge on Ice Burn, and Freeze Shock, in exchange for having 110 BP, and a 50% chance to Burn/Paralyze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:02:19 No.41141757 Report

Quoted By: >>41141802 >>41142061

>>41140253
It should just be Ultra Necrozma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:03:50 No.41141802 Report

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>>41141757
It's from Ultra Space, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:11:11 No.41142061 Report

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>>41141757
Ultra Necrozma should fight the Original Dragon to see which is the strongest fusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:17:46 No.41142263 Report

Quoted By: >>41142285 >>41142346

>>41140253
Ice has no business being in a fusion of zekrom and reshiram, you are aware kyurem is just an empty shell that never should have existed right?
And the original dragon will never exist because it defeats the point of the gen 5 story.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:18:46 No.41142285 Report

Quoted By: >>41142417

>>41142263
>And the original dragon will never exist because it defeats the point of the gen 5 story.
What do you mean? If anything it builds upon it.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:20:17 No.41142334 Report

Quoted By: >>41142391

>>41141333
>if people ignore truth and let themselves become consumed by greed, Reshiram will arrive to burn their kingdoms down
So why the fuck did gf think it fits a region they were supposed to base on ny?

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:20:32 No.41142346 Report

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>>41142263
>And the Original Dragon will never exist
It did in the past, there's no reason why GF won't bullshit a reasoning for it to appear again. It's hard to believe that it won't get the Rayquaza treatment.
>Kyurem is just a shell
I imagine it'd still be a necessity to make the OD, as like a bowl of sorts for the other two dragons to mix into. The Ice moves would more than likely remain there.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:21:41 No.41142391 Report

Quoted By: >>41142482

>>41142334
It would have been better if Gen 5 used China as a region, or something. It'd have made the Tao Trio fit the setting better, but oh well.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:22:21 No.41142417 Report

Quoted By: >>41142759 >>41143329

>>41142285
The entire fucking point of the story was that there was no single correct answer, having the original dragon completely defeats that because no there was just one answer the whole time, there is no other point of view.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:24:44 No.41142482 Report

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>>41142391
No matter where they set the games it wouldn't make any sense.
>random french literary figures
>japanese shinto gods
>british punks and ice cream
>egyptian sarcophagi
etc.
for unova all gf cared about was recreating the feeling of kanto...by just creating kanto rehashes.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:33:22 No.41142759 Report

Quoted By: >>41143048

>>41142417
Becoming one wouldn't change the moral. The reason the Original Dragon split was because it couldn't decide between truth and ideals.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:42:29 No.41143048 Report

Quoted By: >>41143390

>>41142759
Yeah it couldn't decide because bother were viable options, you know more than one answer, more than a single view on things?

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:51:45 No.41143329 Report

Quoted By: >>41143390 >>41143396

>>41142417
I like to be open-minded about lore speculation, but the Original Dragon seems to convey unity, concord and harmony under a sovereign. It is not inconceivable that a hero chosen by both Reshiram and Zekrom might be able to reunite the two and lead by unanimity. N seems to expect this, and is surprised that each dragon chooses a different hero. It's because of the strength of your convictions/ideals as the player character that your contrasting belief is as valid as his. Were it not so, both dragons would have chosen N as their hero (though he apparently only needed one).

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Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:53:28 No.41143390 Report

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>>41143329
>>41143048
In other words what matters is not the diversity of your beliefs, but the strength of your belief no matter its direction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 21:53:32 No.41143396 Report

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>>41143329
Why does it look like it’s blushing what the heck

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