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So what are all the changes to moves we know about so far?

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 04:16:16 No.41154809 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41154849 >>41156471 >>41157875 >>41158194 >>41160468

Rapid Spin - BP increased to 50, raises speed +1
Teleport - Switches the user out
Howl - Raises the attack +1 of all friendly pokemon
King's Shield - reduces attack -1 for users that make contact with Aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 04:17:38 No.41154849 Report

Quoted By: >>41155073

>>41154809
>Rapid Spin - BP increased to 50, raises speed +1
so it's better, more accessible flame charge?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 04:26:08 No.41155073 Report

Quoted By: >>41156627 >>41158157

>>41154849
Pretty much, yeah.
Spinners this gen: Mr. Mime, Mr. Rime, Delibird, Hitmontop, Torkoal, Claydol, Excadrill, Avalugg, Tsareena, Turtonator, Dhelmise, Eldegoss, Coalossal, and Morpeko.
And Blastoise whenever he shows up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 05:14:25 No.41156402 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 05:16:32 No.41156471 Report

Quoted By: >>41156523 >>41157986

>>41154809
>King's Shield - reduces attack -1 for users that make contact with Aegislash
>This along with the 150 -> 140 base stat change to Aegislash.
>But then the fucking sword gets Close Combat.
So much for the Aegislash ""nerf"". It's like they took two steps forward and then three steps backwards.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 05:18:33 No.41156523 Report

Quoted By: >>41157986

>>41156471
INEXPERIENCED EMPLOYEE PLEASE UNDERSTAND

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 05:22:32 No.41156627 Report

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>>41155073
>Mr. Rime dances and spins his cane rather than his body to repel the hazards
based

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:12:03 No.41157820 Report

Quoted By: >>41157839

I thought I heard something about Silvally's Multi-Attack being buffed to a greater BP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:12:53 No.41157839 Report

Quoted By: >>41158273 >>41159286

>>41157820
Yes it's 120 now

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:15:00 No.41157875 Report

Quoted By: >>41157916

>>41154809
>Teleport - Switches the user out
Neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:16:50 No.41157916 Report

Quoted By: >>41160612

>>41157875
>Buff Teleport
>Remove Pursuit

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:20:58 No.41157986 Report

Quoted By: >>41158255

>>41156471
>>41156523
I don't get this meme. Was there any implication that Aegislash was supposed to be "nerfed"?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:28:53 No.41158157 Report

Quoted By: >>41160679

>>41155073
>Excadrill
wat

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:29:59 No.41158194 Report

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>>41154809
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/list-of-changes-to-old-pokemon-moves-etc-read-op-before-posting-see-2nd-post-for-the-list.3656151/

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:32:32 No.41158255 Report

Quoted By: >>41158965

>>41157986
>Was there any implication
The fact they actually reduced the base stats, something that has NEVER happened before, of both its forms and specifically targeted King's Shield, suggests that yes, they were trying to nerf Aegislash.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 06:33:18 No.41158273 Report

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>>41157839
Wow, that's a pretty drastic change.
Silvally deserves it though. It was so awful in Gen 7. For the...flexibility of choosing whatever type you wanted, it had to basically run with neither an ability nor an item. Throw on top of that a fairly barren move pool and you got a shit circus.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 07:07:02 No.41158965 Report

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>>41158255
But will people really run it though? It's how I question why Roar getting Close Combat is something "noteworthy" as opposed to Parting Shot.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 07:25:28 No.41159286 Report

Quoted By: >>41159729

>>41157839
Can you use Type:Null/Silvally during the story?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 07:46:47 No.41159729 Report

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>>41159286
You get Type:Null as a gift pokemon at battle tower. So no, you only use it in postgame again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:22:24 No.41160426 Report

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Move changes are a little thin on the ground, but some of the movepool updates are pretty amazing. I'm very interested in Nasty Plot Rotom assuming it gets formes and also Solar Blade Leafeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:24:48 No.41160468 Report

Quoted By: >>41160547 >>41160572

>>41154809
i heard they cut moves, too. is that true?
if so, what moves, how many, why, and are the shills defending this too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:29:47 No.41160547 Report

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>>41160468
https://pastebin.com/3FTfUgzd

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:30:53 No.41160572 Report

Quoted By: >>41160590 >>41160674

>>41160468
>is that true?
Yes.
>how many
144.
>what moves
Mostly weak moves like Whirlpool or signature moves for Pokemon not usable in Galar, but they also cut mainstays like Return, Hidden Power, Pursuit, and Vespiquen's Defend Order.
>Full List
https://pastebin.com/3FTfUgzd

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:31:40 No.41160590 Report

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>>41160572
heal order, not defend

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:32:54 No.41160612 Report

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>>41157916
Please understand

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:35:26 No.41160654 Report

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It's funny with the cutting of Mirror Shot, they removed half of all Special Steel moves learned by Pokémon not called Jirachi.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:36:32 No.41160674 Report

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>>41160572
Really, if you don't count Z-moves and the LGPE moves, it's more like 80. But that's still a lot. I actually do like that a lot of these were pruned, like Razor Wind, but they still kept stuff like Slam.... And it feels a bit soulless to remove shenanigan moves like Rototiller just because they weren't viable.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:36:49 No.41160679 Report

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>>41158157
Its always had rapid spin

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 08:39:18 No.41160711 Report

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holy shit, that's actually terrible. not buying it +40%

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