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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:09:18 No.41240646 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41240705 >>41240762 >>41241117 >>41242138 >>41242758

>iconic in the 90s
>steady slew of good 2D games
>the transition to 3D is where it started getting rough
>the fifth 3d game is so abysmal people start thinking the series was never good

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:11:18 No.41240705 Report

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>>41240646
Kek

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:13:49 No.41240762 Report

Quoted By: >>41241893 >>41242784 >>41242825

>>41240646
Really it's so interesting when you compare the triad of Mario, Sonic, Pokemon.
Mario translated really well to 3D and each iteration gets highly praised.
Sonic doesn't work well in 3D at all due to the mechanics being so heavily reliant on horizontal motion.
Pokemon functions in 3D but is underwhelming so hatred for it built up slowly.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:26:01 No.41241117 Report

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>>41240646

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:33:08 No.41241322 Report

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>>41241117
>tfw like both sonic and pokemon

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:47:03 No.41241713 Report

Quoted By: >>41242064 >>41242634

I now have to wonder what the fuck the Pokemon equivalent of Sonic Mania would look like.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:52:43 No.41241893 Report

Quoted By: >>41242013 >>41242079

>>41240762
I remember plenty of people liking Sonic adventure 1 and 2. Especially the 2nd.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:56:28 No.41242013 Report

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>>41241893
...and lots of people liked X / Y and Sun / Moon.
...they SHOULDN'T, but they do.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:57:23 No.41242045 Report

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I was adamant for months than comparing SS to 06 was retarded but at least Sonic 06 never ran the risk of bricking my console, or destroying my TV.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:57:53 No.41242064 Report

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>>41241713
Pokemon's different to Sonic as the core gameplay has never really changed in Pokemon compared to Sonic. Pokemon's problem is the lack of innovation and constantly playing it safe (plus bad devs), whereas Sonic's was pushing half-baked new
gimmicks (Treasure hunting, Silver's psychic powers, Werehog) while neglecting what made the games great in the first place. A Pokemon Mania created using the principles of Sonic Mania would just be an excuse to give us yet another Kanto wankfest

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:58:25 No.41242079 Report

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>>41241893
Adventure 1 and 2 had high praise until Egoraptor started shitting on them.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 18:59:48 No.41242138 Report

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>>41240646
The 3DS games was never worshipped as the Sonic Adventure Saga. However if at any case, the Pokemon GameCube games where fantastic 3D pokemon games.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:00:54 No.41242178 Report

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>>41242079
>Egoraptor
That guy sucks at playing 3D videogames. His word is ass.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:04:44 No.41242291 Report

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>>41242178
That might be true and while the Adventure games had a few detractors once he started ripping into them people started using his opinions almost word for word. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are really no worse than any other game from their era.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:15:50 No.41242634 Report

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>>41241713
This is what I've been asking for since USUM

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:18:12 No.41242701 Report

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>franchise recently keeps coasting off of nostalgia for the first entry, with the last couple entries in particular heavily calling back to it or outright being set during it
>quality has taken a considerable and palpable nosedive ever since adopting a yearly release schedule
>along comes the eighth mainline entry
>hailed by critics with unreal praise, being proclaimed as a new direction and as the best of the series
>all criticism and worry is deflected by publications on the basis of DA MEANIE INCEL ALT RIGHT MANBABY TROLLS
>leaks reveal a ton of issues and after official release it's clear to people that it's not very fresh but rather just mostly the same shit, but not as fleshed out
>the only people outside of "journalism" still standing up for it are newcomer casuals who want to be "hip" with geek culture or contrarians
>despite selling well it's overall a gigantic fucking failure and new merchandising has nowhere to go with how vapid the new material is
I know I've posted this basic thing a few times recently but it really is astounding just how many parallels you can draw between SwSh and TLJ, I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if there's also a significant overlap for people who liked both
so I guess 2020 DP remakes confirmed for being the Solo that breaks the camel's back and murders the series

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:20:08 No.41242758 Report

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>>41240646
>fifth 3D game

which one is this referring to, again? Are we counting Ultra Sun/Moon as separate from S/M?

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:21:10 No.41242784 Report

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>>41240762
>reliant on horizontal motion

Reliant on FORWARD motion. Holding right on a 2D plane simply transitions to holding up on a 3D plane.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:22:17 No.41242817 Report

Quoted By: >>41242858

>>41242758
XY
ORAS
SM
USUM
SWSH

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:22:28 No.41242825 Report

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>>41240762
It's not about the horizontal motion, rather the workload required.
Sonic stages are by definition larger than Mario's, so they started cutting corners.
By the time 2006 was out, nobody knew what this franchise was about anymore, since they also kept reinventing the wheel with gimmicks and screwing the momentum base gameplay the 2d games were so good at.
It's very similar to what's happening to pokemon yet different.
But at the end of it, it's always because of greed.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:22:34 No.41242828 Report

Quoted By: >>41242944

>>41242701
And Rise of Skywalker is going to cause more damage than that.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:23:40 No.41242858 Report

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>>41242817
What about LGPE?

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:25:36 No.41242919 Report

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>>41242858
We don't talk about it.
Honestly I just forgot about it. You could argue it's just a spinoff but I really can't be bothered to go down that rabbit hole

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:26:17 No.41242944 Report

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>>41242828
at least after that any obligation to watch any further movies for closure will be gone

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:36:06 No.41243228 Report

Quoted By: >>41243293

>>41242944
You don't have to see ROTS. No one is holding you at gunpoint. Why are Star Wars fags such pathetic cucks?

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Anonymous Sat 16 Nov 2019 19:38:37 No.41243293 Report

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>>41243228
Even if it sucks, it's still going to nag at me inside if I don't.
I'm not even that big on Star Wars. I never actually watched the prequels or any of those side movies they keep shitting out.

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