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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:33:22 No.41295299 View View Reply Original Report

Worst water starter?

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:35:02 No.41295339 Report

Quoted By: >>41301385

>>41295299
Take a guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:36:21 No.41295375 Report

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>>41295299
Absolute retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:37:07 No.41295402 Report

Quoted By: >>41295417 >>41296860 >>41302302

>>41295299
No way fag, its primarina or sobble

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:37:35 No.41295417 Report

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>>41295402
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:37:37 No.41295418 Report

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>>41295299
Intelleon is the only bad water starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:38:07 No.41295435 Report

Quoted By: >>41295526 >>41297026 >>41297358 >>41302512

>>41295299
Gen 5 had the worst starters for every type, so yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:39:09 No.41295457 Report

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>>41295299
Wish Galar had him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:40:30 No.41295478 Report

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>>41295299
Usefulness-wise yes.
Great choice in-game though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:41:53 No.41295515 Report

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>>41295299
Greninja. Looks like a rejected Poliwhirl evo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:42:04 No.41295526 Report

Quoted By: >>41295786

>>41295435
Objectively false.
>Grass
Meganium exists.
>Water
Inteleon exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:47:37 No.41295671 Report

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At the time, he really wasn't my favorite either. Neither was Empoleon. But looking back, they were so, so much fucking better than Primarina and Intelleon. I thought MAYBE I could learn to like Intelleon, but its animations in game in the camp basically scream "I'm not actually a Pokemon like everyone else."

Thank Christ I didn't buy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:52:52 No.41295786 Report

Quoted By: >>41295845 >>41298803

>>41295526
Inteleon isn't Meganium bad...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:53:56 No.41295818 Report

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>>41295299
DAME TU COSITA, aka Incellion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 04:54:55 No.41295845 Report

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>>41295786
In terms of usefulness? Yeah, he's not.

In terms of design, though, Inteleon is the worst starter ever, and up there with Vanilluxe as one of the worst looking Pokemon ever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:00:47 No.41295975 Report

Quoted By: >>41298744

>>41295299
If your talking about usefulness then yes.
Slow frail mixed attackers are rarely good.
Surprisingly, it’s deemed too broken for PU, so not a single Water starter is in the worst tier yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:01:44 No.41295998 Report

Quoted By: >>41296849

>>41295299
objectively yes, even before blastoise got shell smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:03:34 No.41296042 Report

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Water starters suck in general. I don't consider any of the designs particularly strong or memorable. It's sad too because water is one of my two favorite types with ice. I think the issue is with starters Gamefreak tends to lean towards humanoid designs and water type does not lend itself to humanoid designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:05:11 No.41296096 Report

Quoted By: >>41296134 >>41297068

What’s with the hate for samurott? I remember using him in black 2, and he was fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:06:48 No.41296134 Report

Quoted By: >>41296272

>>41296096
He looks kind of faggoty.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:06:52 No.41296136 Report

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>>41295299
not when greninja and shitelleon exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:13:44 No.41296272 Report

Quoted By: >>41296352

>>41296134
There are actual faggy looking water starters though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:14:37 No.41296281 Report

Quoted By: >>41296330 >>41296367 >>41296478

>>41295299
For ruining his evo line yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:16:39 No.41296330 Report

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>>41296281
What did you want Dewott to evolve into, a sexy humanoid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:17:32 No.41296352 Report

Quoted By: >>41297102

>>41296272
Honestly it looks even gayer to me than intelleon or primarina. It just feels like something furries would get off to. Maybe it's how it looks a little muscular in a way you wouldn't expect such an animal to look while still being a quadraped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:17:57 No.41296367 Report

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>>41296281
People like you are why we have Delphox, Incineroar, and Cinderace now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:20:07 No.41296415 Report

Quoted By: >>41296458

I still seethe actively over how bad Intelleon looks. Its so fucking lame. Bland Scorbunny and I guess somewhat interesting Bimbamboom or whatever its fucking name is shit all over it. I remember someone here posted their art in a fakemon thread and I just look at it and think "wow they really fuckign dropped the ball when all these cool espionage/spy concepts exist".

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:20:40 No.41296425 Report

Quoted By: >>41296966 >>41297068

But Samurott was one of the only good Water types in B/W? Who was I supposed to use for my water type on my team, fucking Basculin? Fuck Basculin. I thought Totodile in G/S/C was worse. Physical stats on a special type is already a red flag, it becomes mostly just good for HMs by the time you get to Olivine, but at least it can rough up Jasmine's Steelix. Tentacruel and Mantine for the most part outclass Totodile/Croconaw/Feraligatr. Samurott, on the other hand, is basically the best water type available for almost the entire game in B/W.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:22:02 No.41296458 Report

Quoted By: >>41296703

>>41296415
They're never gonna make a quadraped starter again, people gotta get over that. They have these games down to a science at this point and they know for a fact quadrapeds are always less popular. They literally have not made a quadraped starter in like 10 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:22:47 No.41296478 Report

Quoted By: >>41297951

>>41296281
Not a single fan made Dewott evo looks better than the real thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:33:46 No.41296703 Report

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>>41296458
>10 years
>I used Torterra over 10 years ago
How has it already been 10 years what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:41:53 No.41296849 Report

Quoted By: >>41296923

>>41295998
>before blastoise got shell smash
Wait WHAT?

How Blastoise gets Shell Smash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:42:42 No.41296860 Report

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>>41295402
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:44:40 No.41296894 Report

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>>41295299
It's bad but they have sunk so much lower it was the worst at the time

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:45:21 No.41296921 Report

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>>41295299
nah I like It, but in general I like pokemon that look like fantasy animals and not like a looney toon or a person in a suit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:45:31 No.41296923 Report

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>>41296849
yep too bad you can't get it in game yet

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:46:42 No.41296966 Report

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>>41296425
I agree. I didn't want to use Pringles jellyfish or Basculin and definitely not Keldeo. Simipour was meh, as was Seismitoad, and Carracoasta was physical based. Swanna was alright and amazing for having Fly and Surf, but goddamn it can't take a hit worth shit. And Alomomola is just plain retarded. Samurott was the only good choice for a Water type in gen 5, with Swanna in second and Simipour/Jellicent tied for third.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:49:02 No.41297026 Report

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>>41295435
gen 8 came out
it's not cool to hate gen 5 anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:51:03 No.41297068 Report

Quoted By: >>41298223

>>41296096
>Ridiculous shell hat.
>Quadruped swordsman
>Slow Mixed Attacker.
>Otter>Otter>SEALION
>Terrible Movepool for most of the game

>>41296425
WaterStab going off of special wasn't that big of a deal since you were using it against low special defense Pokemon that were often 4x weak against it.

You had Jellicent as well.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:52:25 No.41297102 Report

Quoted By: >>41297328

>>41296352
Intelleon and Primarina look like cartoon characters
Samurott looks like a monster/fantasy creature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:54:56 No.41297164 Report

Quoted By: >>41297347 >>41299835

Would Feraligatr be better as water/dark?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:55:58 No.41297190 Report

Quoted By: >>41297352

God what is it with every water after gen 4 being shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 05:58:58 No.41297269 Report

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>>41295299
She will learn Shell Smash too in the next games and be redeemed as mixed sweeper.
Intelleon however...even the tranny seal got what he should have learned in Alola from the beginning, Calm Mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:01:07 No.41297328 Report

Quoted By: >>41297570

>>41297102
He looks like a cartoon character too.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:01:16 No.41297333 Report

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>>41295299
Stats-wise? He's down there.

Aesthetically? Nah, he's fantastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:01:39 No.41297347 Report

Quoted By: >>41297397

>>41297164
No, Dark was a special type back then. Honestly, Feraligatr would've kicked ass as Water/Normal so it's get STAB on most of its level up moves. Slash/Return, and Earthquake were its best moves back then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:01:56 No.41297352 Report

Quoted By: >>41297414 >>41298784

>>41297190
>Empoleon
>Better than the frog and seal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:02:09 No.41297358 Report

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>>41295435
serp is one of the best grass starters competitively though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:04:13 No.41297397 Report

Quoted By: >>41297432 >>41298848

>>41297347
Why the fuck was dark a special type It's all moves like bite, crunch, night slash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:04:45 No.41297414 Report

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>>41297352
Empoleon wins by being a penguin.

Frog had potential but its a ninja so it lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:05:47 No.41297432 Report

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>>41297397
because steel was physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:12:30 No.41297570 Report

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>>41297328
You can keep saying that, but it’s not on the same level as the other two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:31:07 No.41297951 Report

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>>41296478
This. I have yet to see a fanmade evo that isn't blatant furry bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:46:16 No.41298223 Report

Quoted By: >>41299875 >>41300637

>>41297068
>Quadruped swordsman

I can't believe retards still don't know he can stand bipedally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 06:46:41 No.41298230 Report

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Nah; design-wise it's a tie between Blastoise and Inteleon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 07:16:11 No.41298744 Report

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>>41295975
Intelleon is the only humanoid starter dude.
Humanoid does not mean bipedal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 07:18:16 No.41298784 Report

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>>41297352
Empoleon is the best water starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 07:18:59 No.41298803 Report

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>>41295786
No, but it doesn't really have any moves, either. You know, like Meganium. Inteleon's movepool consists of the same Water and Ice moves every Water-type gets, Shadow Ball, and nothing else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 07:21:11 No.41298848 Report

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>>41297397
Because Steel and Ghost were physical, even though neither of the two existing Ghost-types had a good Attack stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 07:30:23 No.41299010 Report

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>>41295299
Absolutely

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 08:18:00 No.41299835 Report

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>>41297164
No, its a shitty meme that just gives it more weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 08:20:49 No.41299875 Report

Quoted By: >>41300804

>>41298223
It looks retarded either way. If it stays quadrupedal it can't feasibly swing its swords without toppling over and if it stands upright it's a hunchback without a proper counter-balance for its torso. It doesn't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 09:05:57 No.41300637 Report

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>>41298223
Maybe if the sprite showed him like that in any way it would be more obvious you only know that if you watched the anime at the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 09:15:37 No.41300804 Report

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>>41299875
This, the design just doesn't work on a basic level. It just looks so wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 09:51:23 No.41301385 Report

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>>41295339
HAAHAHH

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 09:53:13 No.41301419 Report

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>>41295299
Fuck you, Samurott is awesome.

THIS is the worst Water starter. Dammit I liked the Fairy type, they gave me one for a starter, and it ended up as the worst starter I've ever had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 09:54:19 No.41301430 Report

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>>41295299
I think the concept was awful from the start
>it's supposed to be a new region based on a non japanese area
>lmao just kidding samurai and shinto shrines

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 10:50:11 No.41302302 Report

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>>41295402
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 10:59:39 No.41302445 Report

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>>41295299
I like it, but I feel like it should constantly switch between bipedal and 4-legged form while using its blades if we ever got good animation.
Also really needs a stat tuneup or Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 11:02:50 No.41302484 Report

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The Squirtle line is honestly the worst besides Wartortle.
>Squirtle is just blue Charmander in a shell
>Those corny looking cannons on Blastoise that came out of nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2019 11:04:32 No.41302512 Report

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>>41295435
I don't get this meme. Gen 6, Gen 7 and now Gen 8 all exist.

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