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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:34:55 No.41381633 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41381826 >>41381838 >>41381908 >>41383549 >>41385408 >>41385455 >>41385495 >>41385934

>Play Galar Dex OU
>Everyone is using Gyarados, Excadril, Hawlucha, and Ditto since nothing else can stop them and they are by far the best Pokemon to Dynamax with
>Play National Dex OU
>Its far easier to counter these Pokemon due to the increased number of Pokemon and adds more pokemon to Dynamax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6eH2N8sZY

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:37:39 No.41381711 Report

Quoted By: >>41381775 >>41381823 >>41382149 >>41382533

I dunno where the whole "fresh new meta" shit came from to begin with. Every should have known that by removing some cancer, you will get a different type of cancer replacing it. It will always be like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:37:46 No.41381712 Report

Quoted By: >>41381741 >>41381882 >>41381888

What makes hawlucha so good? Flying and fighting for speed and attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:38:55 No.41381741 Report

Quoted By: >>41381882

>>41381712
Pretty much, and Unburden + Seed is still reliable thanks to so many max moves setting terrain

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:40:19 No.41381775 Report

Quoted By: >>41381823 >>41381894 >>41385475

>>41381711
Because the people who hated Landorus weren't competitive players. Competitive players understood why he was where he was. It's the shitter who think it's a pyramid when it's a ladder. Something else will climb to the top or default to the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:42:24 No.41381823 Report

Quoted By: >>41381894

>>41381711
It came from buyfags trying to cope and convince others to still buy it

>>41381775
Meh ive met a fair share of comp players who dont like lando but use it because its useful. I think if it were less ugly there would be a lot less hate for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:42:26 No.41381826 Report

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>>41381633
It’s almost like the only people who botched about the meta were twitter casuals who didn’t play competitive in the first place and got stomped on Showdown when they tried using their single player team in OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:42:57 No.41381838 Report

Quoted By: >>41384120

>>41381633
NatdexOU has dynamax?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:44:21 No.41381882 Report

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>>41381712
>>41381741
Dynamaxing its STABs increases Speed and Attack by 1, and it can also set up Psychic Terrain if it wants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:44:26 No.41381888 Report

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>>41381712
That, and Unburden makes it less easily countered by Scarf Ditto, which is what a lot of people are using as an answer to dynamax setup

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:44:44 No.41381894 Report

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>>41381775
I'm not even a competitive player, it's just the most logical thinking. There was no way in hell shitmons were suddenly going to become good because stuff like Lando T and Megas were removed.

>>41381823
Lando T isn't even that ugly to begin with, honestly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:44:59 No.41381898 Report

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The time has come and so have I!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZAkzCw17GM

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:45:27 No.41381908 Report

Quoted By: >>41381950

>>41381633
>literal posting the same shit that is in another thread
Smogon IQ everybody?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:47:24 No.41381950 Report

Quoted By: >>41381995

>>41381908
It's almost like more than one person is experiencing this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:49:28 No.41381995 Report

Quoted By: >>41382187

>>41381950
>heh, better flood the board with my fangame nonsense that nobody else cares about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:55:50 No.41382149 Report

Quoted By: >>41382189

>>41381711
I wonder how the fuck you can have a balanced Meta when you remove Hidden Power one of the best coverage moves in the fucking franchise.
>Yup, less options to keep your pokemon from being stalled out/killing a slower type difference mon. That'll surely help balance the meta
Along with probably 10 other super useful balance maintaining moves cut in the TMCull

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:57:40 No.41382187 Report

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>>41381995
There is like 3 threads about it, and yet /v/ allows 20 threads about Smash’s DLC alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 20:57:50 No.41382189 Report

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>>41382149
TMcull doesn’t matter because you can just transfer, only the deleted moves like Pursuit, HP, and Return matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 21:09:36 No.41382473 Report

Quoted By: >>41382935

I think the main issue stems from how unfair Max Moves for Dynamax are. It's just way more valuable to be a Flying Type or Fighting Type, or at least have coverage of these types, since you get your Attack & Speed boosted and become way less vulnerable in doing so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 21:12:10 No.41382533 Report

Quoted By: >>41385433

>>41381711

We didn't exactly know the specifics of dynamax at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 21:25:36 No.41382935 Report

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>>41382473
i feel like the no held item needed like with megas or zmoves also makes this far worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 21:35:50 No.41383172 Report

Quoted By: >>41383264 >>41383346

I haven't been paying attention. What makes Ditto so OP? How did a shitmon become a viable threat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 21:39:44 No.41383264 Report

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>>41383172
Simply because transforming copies the stats boosted while still running a Scarf to outspeed, I would presume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 21:43:28 No.41383346 Report

Quoted By: >>41385479

>>41383172
It’s the only reliable and universal way to counterplay Dynamaxing since Dynamax will just accumulate boosts multiple times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 21:52:56 No.41383549 Report

Quoted By: >>41384278

>>41381633
Wonder which of them dies first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:18:05 No.41384120 Report

Quoted By: >>41385354 >>41385383

>>41381838
Yeah. Cant Dyna if you have a Mega or Z-Move equipped. So you either get
>One Dynamaxed Mon
or
>One Mega + One Z-Move

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:24:57 No.41384278 Report

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>>41383549
I'm guessing Sw/Sh dex after dynamax gets banned there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:06:52 No.41385354 Report

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>>41384120
Wow...
So the fanfic meta I imagined months before actually became reality
I don't know if I should rejoice or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:08:19 No.41385383 Report

Quoted By: >>41385807

>>41384120
>One Mega + One Z-Move
would this theoretically work with FUG. were he not banned that is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:09:28 No.41385408 Report

Quoted By:

>>41381633

WHY IS DITTO SO OP

HOW COME NO ONE WILL TELL ME

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:10:27 No.41385433 Report

Quoted By: >>41385535

>>41382533
Anyone with a fucking brain could’ve told you that it would be broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:11:26 No.41385455 Report

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>>41381633
at least UU is gonna be fine, right guys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:12:23 No.41385475 Report

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>>41381775
>Because the people who hated Landorus weren't competitive players.
I know a few competitive players who despise Landorus-T, but admit it's a necessary evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:12:32 No.41385479 Report

Quoted By: >>41385774

>>41383346
>Universal
It can't stop lucha or Reddit penguin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:13:18 No.41385495 Report

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>>41381633
>thank you gamefreak for promising balance and then not caring about my imaginary format

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:14:54 No.41385535 Report

Quoted By: >>41385705 >>41385854

>>41385433
>Anyone with a fucking brain could’ve told you that it would be broken.

>doubles HP, effectively +200 BST bump
>every move is a Z-Move
>effects after ever use

Nobody could have imagined it would be this broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:21:46 No.41385705 Report

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>>41385535
Did we not know there were secondary effects after it was unveiled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:24:17 No.41385774 Report

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>>41385479
Anything that has +3 Speed and any Special Attacker beat both.
Remember, anything can Dynamax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:25:49 No.41385807 Report

Quoted By: >>41385899

>>41385383
But mega fug can't use z-moves since gen 7 right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:27:35 No.41385854 Report

Quoted By: >>41385907 >>41385973

>>41385535
>>every move is a Z-Move
wrong
the base power is inferior to a zmove

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:29:25 No.41385899 Report

Quoted By: >>41385929

>>41385807
Im probably mis-remembering but wasnt that because in gen 7 you had to choose between z-move or mega, you couldnt do both in the same battle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:29:38 No.41385907 Report

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>>41385854
The Max moves still boost your BP to high levels, on top of being done 3 turns consecutively

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:30:29 No.41385929 Report

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>>41385899
No, there's no interface for both Z Moves and Mega Evolving being options

Instead, a Rayquaza with a Z crystal can't Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:30:45 No.41385934 Report

Quoted By:

>>41381633
>OU instead of the Chad 1v1 or Hackmons
Go away pleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:32:29 No.41385973 Report

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>>41385854
they’re pretty close if you factor in a life orb

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