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SWSH sales off to a slow start

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:32:35 No.41384478 View View Reply Original Report

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>Japan preorders:
XY preorders: ~1.2m
SM preorders: ~1.3m
SS preorders: ~0.7m

>Japan 1st week:
XY: ~2.0m
SM: ~1.9m
SS: ~1.3m

>Worldwide 1st week:
XY: Nintendo comes out and announces 4m+ worldwide (Day 3)
SM: Nintendo comes out and announces 5.5m+ worldwide (Day 4)
SS: Radio silence from Nintendo (Day 5)

Not looking good shillbros....................

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:33:34 No.41384500 Report

Quoted By: >>41386060 >>41389634

Good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:33:57 No.41384509 Report

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>>41384478
Just wait, it's nearly Christmas then it will skyrocket higher than SM.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:34:43 No.41384529 Report

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>>41384478
It all comes crashing down

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:35:52 No.41384564 Report

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>>41384478
OH NO FELLOW SHILLTRANNIES WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? HOW WILL GAMEFREAK PAY OUR DILATION MACHINES NOW?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:36:28 No.41384579 Report

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>>41384509
The opposite will happen. Now that the Meowth is out of the bag and everyone knows how shit it is, sales will tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:37:11 No.41384602 Report

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>>41384579
>Now that the Meowth is out of the bag
stop doing this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:38:27 No.41384632 Report

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>>41384564
>DILATION MACHINES
I'm pretty sure thats for filtering your blood when your kidneys don't work, not for trannys.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:38:50 No.41384641 Report

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>>41384602
What's the matter, the skitty ate your tongue?

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:40:07 No.41384684 Report

Quoted By: >>41385353 >>41386088 >>41388619 >>41389183 >>41389455

*slurpee*
>Broken exp system not optional
>Linear and smallest region in the franchise
>10 routes, less than any other game
>Routes are literally hallways
>Wild area is an empty laggy multiplayer lobby
>No exploration at all
>No dungeons
>No day/night cycle until postgame
>No GTS
>Pay multiplayer and pay Home or they'll delete your old pokémon
>Only 1 optional legendary hunt, less than any other game
>2 legendaries per game, less than any other game
>Mediocre story
>No elite 4, and replacements heal you between fights
>Postgame as short as XY
>Most generic battle tower in the franchise
>Cut a lot of moves
>Cut over half of the dex "to improve" visuals
>Graphics barely improved
>Same models
>Same animations except a few specific attacks
>Worst pokémon designs in the franchise
>Kanto pandering in form of regional forms
>Kanto pandering in form of new shitty exclusive and temporal mechanic
>Buggy game bricking consoles
>Buggy game deleting saves
>Buggy game can crash other devices in the wireless network

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:43:58 No.41384789 Report

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>>41384478
>still not Christmas
>Does point that games are $60 this time
OH NONONONONO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:46:16 No.41384850 Report

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>>41384509
>>41384789
What is it with the Christmas argument? Did all the other games skip Christmas or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:50:22 No.41384965 Report

Quoted By: >>41385885 >>41388913

>>41384478
I honestly thought I was delusional to think this games were not selling good since shills keep saying the digital pre-orders were really high
but the radio silence from nintendo makes me think this games really have kind of flopped

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:51:52 No.41384998 Report

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>>41384850
It's called shifting goal posts, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:52:10 No.41385003 Report

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>>41384850
Christmas is a big time for sales of kid friendly games. That said, the shills are neglecting the fact that SM came out at this exact same time of year and that November in general is well within the holiday sales window.

The games are selling less than they did previously, MAYBE Christmas will make up for the sales, but probably not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:52:42 No.41385018 Report

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Pokemon games hit a sweet spot in that there wasn't much to play on handhelds.

Why would somebody buy a Switch just for a watered down version of the same game we've been getting?

No to mention the Switch's handheld screams "steal me".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:52:52 No.41385022 Report

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I expect the usual high sales early on and then a much steeper than usual drop off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:54:33 No.41385071 Report

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Inb4 they wait a good solid week before announcing they’ve actually sold 20 million copies and /vp/ gets BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:55:29 No.41385092 Report

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>>41384632
that's dialysis

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:57:27 No.41385155 Report

Quoted By: >>41385293

>>41385071
0% chance

1.3M in Japan
1.3M in Europe (estimating from UK sales)

It's somewhere above 3M and somewhere below 5M with 100% certainty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:58:30 No.41385176 Report

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>>41385071
I hope nobody actually believes that these games will even top XY/SM, let alone DP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 22:59:03 No.41385187 Report

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>>41385071
Why stop there and make it 30 Billion+ sales?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:00:32 No.41385216 Report

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>>41385071
>35mil Switchs out
>somehow think with all the AAA titles coming out multiplat that people are going to want Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:00:55 No.41385226 Report

Quoted By: >>41389227

>>41385071
I can imagine this. As much as I want to believe it underperformed according to projections, it is Pokemon on switch, the fact that it exists will sell at least 14 million copies from the get go. I feel like people are speaking a bit too soon though, I can imagine the American sales compensating a lot since most of the reviews from there are actually positive. But these games just have too many things supporting them to not fail: Switch Lite increasing accessibility, lack of competition, positive reviews. A lot is banking on the success of these games and Nintendo shareholders likely would not go down a path that they didn’t think would bring them money

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:01:38 No.41385238 Report

Quoted By: >>41385624

I think this game sold well as a switch title but it did bad as a stand alone pokemon title

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:01:44 No.41385241 Report

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>>41385071
Switch games still haven't beat 20 million copies so I doubt it. SWSH will however top Let's Go and be one of best selling Switch titles, so 12-15 million is my guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:03:53 No.41385276 Report

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>>41385003
If these games sell more than 8m copies, then the "war" was for nothing, and you are all fucking corporate cucks anyway.
Besides most of those "shills" ar eprobably trolls anyway, that pretend you get angery for demanding proper products and not CONZOOMING anything they release like a brain dead zombie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:04:26 No.41385290 Report

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>>41385071
This is just delusional
Pokemon red sold 30 million copies in the end
Thinking this game, that had a huge backslash, will sold 20 million copies in one week is dumb
You can always hope these games will sell around 20 million copies after christmas, but i don't think that will happen
Around 15-16 million if it sells like average pokemon games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:04:34 No.41385293 Report

Quoted By: >>41385338 >>41385415 >>41385797

I'll call it a flop if it sees less than 15 million by christamas, switch isn't a handheld like the 3ds, that and not as many people have switches as they did the 3ds, gotta put all kinds of other factors into plau here guys, beating eachother off about dextrannies or shills etc. does nothing, it actually plays well and alot of people are having fun from what I'm seeing, the only bad thing about the whole game that I see online is you guys, /vp/ is where this negitivity is coming from, just drop it if you didn't buy it don't blabber off about nor buying it, no one cares, let the numbers speak, gamefreak doesn't give a fuck jesus christ.
>>41385155
>japan and euroupe are all of the world
Burgers and Aussies make up alot of pokemoms market, japan is half, america is about 1/4. European numbers matter but not as much as you'd think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:05:13 No.41385310 Report

Quoted By: >>41385398

>>41384850
They just keep putting off the point in time they need to admit failure. Apparently the holidays will somehow inject sales in a way that has never occurred with this series before with their constant launches near the same period.

Denial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:05:42 No.41385325 Report

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>>41384509
no
AlolaCHADs won, cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:05:56 No.41385338 Report

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>>41385293
Australia is laughably small, half the UK size

NA is the big question but it won't sell 2.4M if Japan only sold 1.3M and UK only sold 0.2-0.3M

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:06:36 No.41385349 Report

Quoted By: >>41385378 >>41385425

>>41385276
Is impossible for a pokemon game to sell less than 8 milion
This game can survive thanks to his name even for the next gen
We can only hope that less copies sold than average games will make GF doubt his choices and make a good game for the next time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:06:48 No.41385353 Report

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>>41384684
BASED

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:07:04 No.41385359 Report

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>>41385276
>If these games sell more than 8m copies, then the "war" was for nothing, and you are all fucking corporate cucks anyway.
8m copies would mean they lost literally half of their sales from the 3DS. Game Freak would fucking implode if these titles dropped even remotely close to those numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:07:50 No.41385375 Report

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>>41385276
Selling as "low" as eight million copies was always unrealistic. I'd consider 14 million to be a victory, and even then I don't think that'll happen. But a couple million in sales is still a lot.

With that said, I care more about how Gamefreak will respond with the next titles. SWSH was fucked from the start, that part is quite clear now. The question is whether or not they actually double down like they claim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:08:07 No.41385378 Report

Quoted By: >>41385404 >>41385425

>>41385349
>Is impossible for a pokemon game to sell less than 8 milion
Crystal sold 6 million.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:08:49 No.41385397 Report

Quoted By: >>41385443

/vp/ did its job
If you want to blame people for incentivizing GF it' 5ch because apparently jap twitter didn't get the memo of a dexcut
1.3M in Japan means /vp/ lost but it's not our fault bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:08:50 No.41385398 Report

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>>41385310
You’re not factoring in how much Americans will affect the sales. I reckon it has sold A LOT there since even LGPE was popular there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:09:25 No.41385404 Report

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>>41385378
But crystal is a third title, isn't it?
Third titles sell less than first entries

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:09:43 No.41385415 Report

Quoted By: >>41385444 >>41385659

>>41385293
>burgers are more of a cash cow for pokemon than most of the world
Tru, and yea imo the game is fun as fuck I still haven't gone to the first gym due to raids and such.

Also digital sales don't seem to be inclueded in these numbers which is weird as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:10:02 No.41385425 Report

Quoted By: >>41385439

>>41385349
>>41385378
Virtual console Red / Blue / Yellow on 3DS only sold 1.5 million

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:10:43 No.41385439 Report

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>>41385425
nobody cares about oldshit other than hipster incels

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:10:51 No.41385443 Report

Quoted By: >>41385531 >>41385560

>>41385397
>40% drop means /vp/ lost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:10:56 No.41385444 Report

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>>41385415
They’re never factored in

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:11:44 No.41385462 Report

Quoted By: >>41385489 >>41385500 >>41385720

lmao Nintendo twitter even stopped talking about Pokémon and went back to market DQXI and the games award nominees

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:12:29 No.41385478 Report

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>>41384602
boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:13:09 No.41385489 Report

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>>41385462
Buying day passed duh, they'll talk about whatever new raid update they put out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:13:31 No.41385500 Report

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>>41385462
no shit, they probably want to distance themselves as much from this shitshow as possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:14:49 No.41385531 Report

Quoted By: >>41385547 >>41385568 >>41385590

>>41385443
I still have to understand how /vp/ can win
I mean, which is the number of copies sold that we have not to surpass?
How can we be sure they'll effectively do something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:15:22 No.41385547 Report

Quoted By: >>41385562

>>41385531
15.6 million is the magic number

anything less than that is a win

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:15:58 No.41385560 Report

Quoted By: >>41385580

>>41385443
It's still selling better than peepee

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:16:05 No.41385562 Report

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>>41385547
Based and corporate pilled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:16:13 No.41385568 Report

Quoted By: >>41385607 >>41385677

>>41385531
We win if Gamefreak gets the message. Anything else is secondary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:16:43 No.41385580 Report

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>>41385560
It's a new generation. Comparing to remakes is hilariously low bar

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:17:06 No.41385590 Report

Quoted By: >>41385671

>>41385531
BW's 15.6 million is the score to (not) beat. Consider how the reception those games got completely changed the direction of the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:17:50 No.41385607 Report

Quoted By: >>41385636 >>41385704 >>41385889

>>41385568
Haven't we already win then?
The shitstorm that happened with these games was the biggest one, isn't it?
Neither the bw one was this big I believe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:18:32 No.41385624 Report

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>>41385238
Kek same with LGPE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:18:51 No.41385631 Report

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Daily reminder that install base doesn't matter
Mario kart deluxe outsold mario kart 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:19:09 No.41385636 Report

Quoted By: >>41385853

>>41385607
Probably. I'll be more satisfied when they actually acknowledge it though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:19:56 No.41385659 Report

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>>41385415
Still on the title screen, 40 hours in.
This game is wayyyy to comfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:20:27 No.41385671 Report

Quoted By: >>41385693

>>41385590
But that was at $40, this is at $60

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:20:40 No.41385677 Report

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>>41385568
Exactly. And they definitely noticed judging by Twitter reactions and evasions.
The pokémon brand image is damaged for ever. The damage might not have reached the normies, but our opinion as autistic fans is stubborn and constant in time, so it will erode a memeway into normiethinking across the coming years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:21:11 No.41385693 Report

Quoted By: >>41385769

>>41385671
What's your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:21:42 No.41385704 Report

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>>41385607
Yes, we did everything we could and achieved notoriety. It is a win.
Whatever happens now does not depend on us anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:22:13 No.41385720 Report

Quoted By: >>41385795

>>41385462
Too bad DQ XI S tanked outside of Japan

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:23:57 No.41385767 Report

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>yfw when these games are the only Nintendo titles to not beat OR come close to their 3DS counterparts
>yfw when Nintendo goes "Miiiiisteeeerrr Masuda...rakey rakey"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:24:04 No.41385769 Report

Quoted By: >>41385879 >>41385935 >>41385996

>>41385693
Surely they would be taking into account revenue rather than units sold? Naturally when there is a price increase demand will fall due to that price increase, but if it manages to sell the same as BW at $60 despite the price elasticity of demand then things are looking up for Game Freak and Nintendo. BW would’ve sold way more if it wasn’t for piracy imo. R4 cards were immensely popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:25:07 No.41385795 Report

Quoted By: >>41385852

>>41385720
No need for that S
Dragon Quest as a general rule never does too well out of japan, that includes all the previous versions of XI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:25:18 No.41385797 Report

Quoted By: >>41385834

>>41385293
>I'll call it a flop if it sees less than 15 million by christamas
15M is a high number. 12M would be a flop, 15M would be between OK and good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:26:52 No.41385834 Report

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>>41385797
Which is why I said such lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:27:33 No.41385852 Report

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>>41385795
The 3DS version was Japan only.
The sprites we're worked into the Switch version's 2D mode. That is an example of when it's okay to reuse assets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:27:35 No.41385853 Report

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>>41385636
Hoping they do so

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:28:39 No.41385879 Report

Quoted By: >>41385925 >>41385935 >>41385966 >>41393916

>>41385769
Nintendo is the biggest guy in the room when it comes to Pokemon, and the don't care SHIT how much revenue Pokemon games make, because the main beneficiary of Mainline RPGs sales are GF themselves
They might care if it drives more console sales but if Pokemon loses value in the public eye due to lower sales, Nintendo will be knocking on GF's door with a sledgehammer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:28:49 No.41385885 Report

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>>41384965
They never tell us the digital sales is what i heard but i think it probably sold bettee digitaly which will maoe up the sales substancially

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:29:07 No.41385889 Report

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>>41385607
/vp/ won in that the reviewers picked up on the dexcut/graphics narrative and that's reflected in the mixed reception.
I imagine if your first game was LGPE, Sword/Shield will be blindsiding with many of the changes. Not the least of which is your LGPE team isn't immediately available for transfer into the new game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:30:22 No.41385925 Report

Quoted By: >>41385962

>>41385879
Just imagined miyamoto going full shining while madsuda screams lmap

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:30:49 No.41385935 Report

Quoted By: >>41386306

>>41385769
>>41385879
Yeah, Nintendo's bigger cut would be from TPC itself, which is more about the secondary merchandise. Fewer units sold will certainly not bode well for that in their eyes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:31:36 No.41385962 Report

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>>41385925
Fucking kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:31:51 No.41385966 Report

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>>41385879
Good point, Nintendo mainly want it to push Switch units

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:33:04 No.41385982 Report

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>>41384850
It's just shill delusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:33:32 No.41385996 Report

Quoted By: >>41386045

>>41385769
>Surely they would be taking into account revenue rather than units sold?
The main games reaching significantly fewer people is still going to present a problem even if the amount of money made is the same or even more (especially after two decades of almost totally stable sales) because half of their purpose is being the core of the franchise as a whole. If the core of your franchise is losing people's interest then that's absolutely not a good sign for the rest of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:33:42 No.41386001 Report

Quoted By: >>41386193

>>41384789
>Does point that games are $60 this time
Yeah, you're right. Means more parents will be less likely to buy it seeing a 50% price increase and even the rare utmost glowing review says it's the same but less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:35:28 No.41386029 Report

Quoted By: >>41386097

Total retard ignoring digital sales. The 3ds had 4 gb of storage, the switch has 32 gb. Retailers did not even sell digital codes for 3ds games but they all have tons of digital codes for switch games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:36:17 No.41386045 Report

Quoted By: >>41386102 >>41386139

>>41385996
Aren’t they shifting towards GO being the core though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:37:05 No.41386060 Report

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>>41384500
fpbp

These shitty lazy squat puddles don't deserve to sell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:38:42 No.41386088 Report

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>>41384684
based af

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:38:56 No.41386097 Report

Quoted By: >>41386609

>>41386029
Nobody likes digital

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:39:10 No.41386101 Report

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>>41384641

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:39:18 No.41386102 Report

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>>41386045
For merchandising maybe
But Nintendo will never allow a full move to mobile because Pokemon's a guaranteed 10+ million seller
Even if only 1/4 of those bought a console and 2 other games Nintendo rakes in the dough and avoids scrutiny from shareholders since they almost never sell a console at a loss

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:40:31 No.41386139 Report

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>>41386045
Go is huge but it's simply not suited to being the core of the franchise. The reason the main games work so well for this purpose is that everything that every other part of the franchise needs to pull from can be consolidated into them, from the Pokémon, to the characters, to the music, to the region, to the mechanics, everything. Go can't do that, and neither can just about any other part of the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:42:38 No.41386193 Report

Quoted By: >>41386284

>>41386001
Parents will buy anything to shut their brats up. Only Ghetto rats and trailer trash would consider $60 out of their price range .

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:46:16 No.41386284 Report

Quoted By: >>41386568

>>41386193
>Only Ghetto rats and trailer trash would consider $60 out of their price range .
so half of the pokemon base in NA?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:47:04 No.41386306 Report

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>>41385935
Nintendo has the most to lose because of the Switch Lite. It is competing with the Switch while also being 40% cheaper, and then there's the overhead for the production cost.
If Swish doesn't cause a huge bump in unit sales for Nintendo, they're losing big on this release.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:48:26 No.41386342 Report

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>>41384478
why do you autistic faggots pay attention to sales? It has no bearing on the quality of the product whatsoever and helps neither side. Stop this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:49:49 No.41386377 Report

Quoted By: >>41386455

>>41386342
it will have a bearing on quality if this turd of a gamee sells and the next one is even more of a sloppy rushjob.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:51:05 No.41386409 Report

Quoted By: >>41386455

>>41386342
It actually influences the games.
Pokemon Let's Go sales are responsable for a lot of the design and mechanic choices on Gen 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:51:09 No.41386413 Report

Quoted By: >>41386455 >>41386483

>>41386342
Are you retarded?
If this game sells well, there won't be any reason to improve anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:52:13 No.41386438 Report

Quoted By: >>41386455 >>41386516

>>41386342
Wheres this gif from

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:52:15 No.41386439 Report

Quoted By: >>41386552

>>41384478
are digital sales included in the SS figures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:52:27 No.41386445 Report

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>>41386342
>It has no bearing on the quality of the product whatsoever
It has a bearing on the quality of the next product.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:52:50 No.41386455 Report

Quoted By: >>41386498 >>41387303

>>41386377
>>41386409
>>41386413
nigga we knew this game was garbage way before any sales figures came out. Sales have no bearing on the quality of the product. You can't use sales numbers as evidence of quality
>>41386438
idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:53:55 No.41386479 Report

Quoted By: >>41386557 >>41387095 >>41387333 >>41387511 >>41396593

Reminders that
>not as many people own a switch, the first pokemon game on a more expensive home console
>pokemon company is making 50% more per game by selling it at $60 instead of $40

XY: 2 million x $40/copy = $80 million
SM: 1.9 million x $40/copy = $76 million
SS: 1.3 million x $60/copy = $79 million

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:54:01 No.41386483 Report

Quoted By: >>41386725

>>41386413
It might not improve even if the game sells poorly. The hackers have proofread GF's programming and they're a shitty developer. Making good games in a limited timeframe might be beyond their ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:54:27 No.41386498 Report

Quoted By: >>41386582

>>41386455
You dumb fuck it has a potential bearing on the NEXT games, if this steaming shit sells then expect more just like it NEXT game.

Dumb fuck can't read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:55:04 No.41386516 Report

Quoted By: >>41387539

>>41386438
Magic the Gathering: Battlemage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:56:20 No.41386552 Report

Quoted By: >>41386669

>>41386439
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:56:40 No.41386557 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386479
It costs more money to make a game on the Switch than on the 3DS, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:56:59 No.41386568 Report

Quoted By: >>41386627 >>41386679 >>41388766

>>41386284
Middle class is the one buying switches and games. poorfags are more busy trying to pay for the basic shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:57:26 No.41386582 Report

Quoted By: >>41387067

>>41386498
we are literally not talking about the next game anon, and that's dumb as fuck reasoning. There are much better ways to determine quality. Street Fighter 3 Third Strike sold very well and is still the best SF game to date, but SF IV and V pale in comparison on all fronts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:58:31 No.41386609 Report

Quoted By: >>41386651 >>41387617

>>41386097
Most people buy digital now anon, I don't know anyone who bought a cartdrige cooy of any game dxcluding what evr the first game they had was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Nov 2019 23:59:17 No.41386627 Report

Quoted By: >>41386679

>>41386568
When I was a child and had no job, $60 was a huge sum of money. I used to buy hot lunch at school for $0.5 (subsidized).
If the parents don't buy it, there's no way for you to get this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:00:28 No.41386651 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386609
Only norimes and neckbeards do that shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:00:55 No.41386669 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386552
oh ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:01:27 No.41386679 Report

Quoted By: >>41386731 >>41386801

>>41386568
>>41386627
Yeah. And when it comes to Christmas, kids are going to have to weigh asking for this vs asking for other big games that they might have had an eye on. Not every kid is going to be able to reliably ask for and receive a dozen $60 games

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:02:54 No.41386720 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384478
Don't do that, anon. Don't give me hope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:03:03 No.41386725 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386483
At least we tried. Even if there's 2% chances to make things change, that's better than 0%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:03:13 No.41386731 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386679
this is gen Z, if they can get the latest phone that costs 100s of dollars they can get more than 2 Triple A titles

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:06:21 No.41386801 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386679
Kids don't play Pokemon, dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:06:35 No.41386807 Report

Quoted By: >>41387230 >>41387547

>>41385276
LGPE sold 11 million
If SwSh Sells only like 12-13 million shareholders are going to throw a shitfit because simply turning a profit is not enough. They were sold on this being the big home console release that would revive pokemania, they want MARIO KART numbers at 19 million
"SHUT UP IT STILL MADE MONEY" is a ridiculous argument completely blind to how giant businesses actually operate.

Anthem and Mass Effect Andromeda still sold millions and made money, but because they were giant shitshows and SEVERELY underperformed they were still abandoned and killed off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:09:01 No.41386855 Report

Quoted By: >>41386907 >>41387065

>>41385003
3ds had a larger install base than the switch world wide at the point in time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:11:26 No.41386907 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386855
there's like 40 million switch sales, expecting more than 15 million sales is ridiculous at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:16:31 No.41387065 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386855
for SM, XY likely had around the same as the switch now
install base is a meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:16:33 No.41387067 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386582
Gamefreak will keep pumping out the same lazy malware ridden games if this game sells through the roof. They do not listen to their fans and lie through their teeth.
The only way to show them, or any corporation, what you really want is by buying / not buying their product.

That being said i suspect the people choosing not to buy SwShit are a blip next to the drones buying both versions. Shitty games for everyone forever!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:17:19 No.41387084 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384632
My fucking sides

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:17:32 No.41387095 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386479
The larger price argument is as stupid as it gets. No business will ever consider it a success that they managed to break even while losing 10% of their core sellers. The point of the price increase is to get at least the same amount of people to buy and increase profits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:22:19 No.41387230 Report

Quoted By: >>41387547

>>41386807
this. most people here think that gamefreak only cares about the people who loyally bought their new shitty games when in reality they care about getting a person who normally wouldnt consume their product to buy said shitty games.
you'd have to be a complete dumbass to be content with selling 15 million games when 16 million is possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:24:35 No.41387303 Report

Quoted By: >>41388163

>>41386455
Genuine question.

Were you born this stupid or do you train everyday to get better at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:25:12 No.41387317 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384478
>already on sale in some European countries and in Japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:25:42 No.41387333 Report

Quoted By: >>41388623 >>41388852 >>41388887

>>41386479
Stop with this attach rate meme, most of the games released either well into the console life time, or when boot lickers like you weren’t running around trying to find anything to praise, so no one even bothered to record “attach rate”

The only other game to release this early in the consoles life time was x and y, and as you stated it had a better attach rate at the moment of release.
You’re grasping for straws

Reminder that Gen 3 is the best selling by this metric and Let's Go should have outperformed everyone but it didn't even break 12m.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:32:37 No.41387511 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386479
>muh revenue
less profit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:33:22 No.41387539 Report

Quoted By: >>41388782

>>41386516
Thanks that background looks sick is the game any good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:33:49 No.41387547 Report

Quoted By: >>41387623 >>41387907

>>41386807
>>41387230
>muh revenue muh revenue

gamefreak doesn't get all the revenue, nintendo gets a biiig share

and the cost of making switch games should be higher because you need better hardware and software (if not better employees too)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:34:53 No.41387573 Report

Quoted By: >>41387622 >>41387649 >>41387788 >>41395378

Do you think SwSh will have some copies on sale for Black Friday? If I can get it for about half-off then I'd be willing to give Galar a shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:36:30 No.41387617 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386609
>Most people buy digital now anon
lolno

look at any poll anywhere, nobody likes digital

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:36:44 No.41387622 Report

Quoted By:

>>41387573
if it somehow went for ~$30 in germany already, you bet your ass it will

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:36:48 No.41387623 Report

Quoted By: >>41387651

>>41387547
so you're saying if given the chance nintendo / gamefreak will make LESS money over MORE money

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:37:43 No.41387649 Report

Quoted By:

>>41387573
I think they might actually just put this shit show on sale to shift it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:37:45 No.41387651 Report

Quoted By:

>>41387623
>what is cost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:42:48 No.41387788 Report

Quoted By:

>>41387573
I wouldnt be suprised if they put it on sale but i think yoy should hold off or get it used dont let them have your sale fuck em lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:46:49 No.41387907 Report

Quoted By: >>41388033 >>41388371 >>41388391 >>41388512

>>41387547
Nope
GF gets almost all the revenue from the games, minus publisher fees given to TPCI (Which goes back to them anyway) and platform owner's fees which is chump change in comparison
Nintendo gets money from merchandise stuff
If you still think Nintendo gets a big cut from individual Pokemon RPGs then please do answer why there was no gen 3 on Wii U, after all, if they get revenue from that, then that means they can rerelease those games at will, correct?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:51:06 No.41388023 Report

Quoted By: >>41388125

>>41384478
Wow, it's almost as if all the bootlickers bought it, and that's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:51:44 No.41388033 Report

Quoted By: >>41388424

>>41387907
They get 33% or less

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:52:56 No.41388069 Report

Quoted By: >>41388163

>>41386342
>helps neither side. Stop this shit

Bullshit, retard. Sales are the only metric studios care about. If the sales are down, that means they'll have to make changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:54:44 No.41388121 Report

Quoted By:

I’m real worried if they actually do make Sinnoh remasters. I wouldn’t be too upset if they went the straight remaster route (493 Pokemon in total), but it’d be ridiculous if they don’t try and put everyone in. I know it’s an anecdote, but I was talking to normie friends at university and they legit said they weren’t bothering with Swsh because of cut Pokemon. I wonder if all the “whining” is gonna hurt them in the long run and cause to try and not make any cuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:54:47 No.41388125 Report

Quoted By: >>41388324

>>41388023
I suck Gamefreak dick normally, but even I skipped SS.

Let me tell you how bad I am, if they promised a $300 NatDex DLC, I would buy the game and DLC.

But I won't buy any game where I can't catch all the pokemon that were available at the time of the games release ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 00:56:24 No.41388163 Report

Quoted By: >>41388362 >>41388471 >>41389038

>>41387303
I already gave a counter-example, sales don't prove quality of the product and that's a simple fact. James Cameron's Avatar isn't the 2nd best movie ever made.
>>41388069
true, but whether the changes made will be good or bad depends on the final product. If chocolate company came out with a dorito flavor that sold abysmally, and wanted to make changes to generate profit, they could either make it taste like something sweet like tea or cookie dough, or they could make it taste like arsenic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:02:34 No.41388324 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388125
>if they promised a $300 NatDex DLC, I would buy the game and DLC.
Would probably stir-fry your Switch when you booted that shit up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:04:06 No.41388362 Report

Quoted By: >>41388412

>>41388163
>sales tank, we must generate profit
>let's make arsenic flavor

Lol wtf is this analogy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:04:22 No.41388371 Report

Quoted By: >>41388417

>>41387907
Nah
Split is
>GF gets most of Game sales revenue + a small cut of merchandise money
>Nintendo gets most of the merchandise money, because they're the actual owners of the mons + a small cut from the cash TPCI gets from GF
That's why Nintendo can't interfere in the releases of Pokemon games, and why GF can make the games without Nintendo if they want (compare to Intelligent systems, who technically can work independently from Nintendo but their fucking office is in the Nintendo compound)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:05:03 No.41388391 Report

Quoted By:

>>41387907
“Game Freak? We develop all the main Pokémon games. Originally, Creatures, they were the producers of the game. Nintendo was the seller of the games – the distributor. So that was the original structure of Pokémon games. In terms of who owns the rights to the games, it’s these three companies,” Masuda explained to Game Informer in their September issue.

33% ownership = 33% revenue

and Creatures is mostly owned by Nintendo, not GameFreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:05:58 No.41388412 Report

Quoted By: >>41388588

>>41388362
rght? it's fucking ridiculous and obviously a terrible idea. But you didn't determine it was a terrible idea based on how the last product sold, you determined it by the product itself, which is exactly my point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:06:05 No.41388417 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388371
GF gets 33% of the merchandise money

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:06:18 No.41388424 Report

Quoted By: >>41388484

>>41388033
33% of hundreds of billions is still plenty you nitwit

Konomi Suzuki Lover !aNRFNkpkG.

Konomi Suzuki Lover !aNRFNkpkG. Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:07:27 No.41388443 Report

Quoted By: >>41388503

>>41384478
>Slow start
It's the fastest selling Switch release in Japan ever, even better than Smash Bros. Also the biggest single-platform release in the UK, and the second-largest selling Pokemon release in the UK ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:08:15 No.41388471 Report

Quoted By: >>41388485

>>41388163
So you train... alright

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:08:37 No.41388484 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388424
they don't make hundreds of billions from games lol

games make half a billion dollars average

gamefreak gets like 100-200 million dollars per game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:08:40 No.41388485 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388471
I'm hearing a lot of bitching from someone with no argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:09:19 No.41388503 Report

Quoted By: >>41388582

>>41388443
And is doing less compared to last seasons. Literally a shitload of other Gens did better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:09:40 No.41388512 Report

Quoted By: >>41388565

>>41387907
“With Pokémon, at least, we really feel it is really important to be with Nintendo, specifically with the Pokémon titles, so I don’t think that would ever happen,” Masuda closed.

Nintendo has GF by the balls, it has over 50% of the control of the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:11:33 No.41388565 Report

Quoted By: >>41388596

>>41388512
Nintendo should have stepped in

Konomi Suzuki Lover !aNRFNkpkG.

Konomi Suzuki Lover !aNRFNkpkG. Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:12:12 No.41388582 Report

Quoted By: >>41388623 >>41388679

>>41388503
>Literally a shitload of other Gens did better.
Higher install bases, less expensive hardware and software.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:12:20 No.41388588 Report

Quoted By: >>41388893

>>41388412
Pokemon knows what its customers want and like. They've been making games for two decades now and know exactly what "flavor" sells. Their problem is they want to know exactly how much they can dilute that flavor and still sell, rather than spend the money and make something that will sell without question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:12:32 No.41388596 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388565
Nintendo cares too much about their public image to cause a scandal like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:13:26 No.41388619 Report

Quoted By: >>41388656 >>41389573

>>41384684
>>Worst pokémon designs in the franchise

Sorry, but that would be Gen V faggot. All of a sudden literal ice cream and fucking garbage is okay because muh pokedex. Wooloo alone is better than 75% of gen v shitmons. Copperajah, Toxtricity, Galarian Ponyta and Falinks are some of the best designed pokemon ever. I agree with everything else you mentioned though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:13:30 No.41388623 Report

Quoted By: >>41388680 >>41389714

>>41388582
Read >>41387333
"Shillbros, we made the same amount of money but we lost 30% of players, this is good news r-r-right?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:14:42 No.41388651 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384789
120 yen has been deposited into your account

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:14:58 No.41388656 Report

Quoted By: >>41388797

>>41388619
The thing is, when this Gen shits up a bad design, it's a REALLY bad design, like the penguin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:15:54 No.41388679 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388582
>less expensive hardware and software.
This is bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:16:00 No.41388680 Report

Quoted By: >>41388873

>>41388623
It's a console game lol, they should be making 3 times the money

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:16:17 No.41388688 Report

Quoted By: >>41388814

how much money did Satoshi Tajiri make from the pokemon franchise ?

google says he only made 10 million

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:18:18 No.41388734 Report

Quoted By:

people sayin "well but it costs more"
bro, investors are just gonna see its not selling as much and yell at game freak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:18:35 No.41388749 Report

Quoted By:

Arguing about revenue/profit is dumb

GF gets a large cut of merchandise (they own 33% of the brand, and merchandise is 70% of the revenue, they would be retarded not to)

Japs care about users / units sold. Literally any financial briefing has units sold.

The financial briefings also look at money at large, not how much money a product in a vacuum made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:19:20 No.41388766 Report

Quoted By:

>>41386568
Yes, middle class are the ones buying games.

Here's the problem, though: most of those kids are paying for Fortnite skins now. The people buying Pokemon IN ADDITION to the Fortnite skins they're already buying aren't middle class; they're upper middle to rich. i.e; basically just Cali and NY. 48 fucking states that can't afford it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:19:47 No.41388782 Report

Quoted By:

>>41387539
I liked it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:20:16 No.41388797 Report

Quoted By: >>41388828 >>41391684 >>41395163

>>41388656
People always only bring up Eiscue, literally ONE ugly as fuck mon out of the entire dex. I'll take one Eiscue over three same faced elemental monkeys, copy paste genies, and idolshit legendaries any day.

Don't sit here and pretend like you forgot about Gen fucking V. Because I didn't. SwSh IS unironically better than that shitty as fuck gen, and it'll take more than muh Lopunny to change my mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:20:51 No.41388814 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388688
Artists don't make much because they don't own the means of production.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:21:19 No.41388828 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388797
Lopunny was Gen IV, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:22:03 No.41388852 Report

Quoted By: >>41388887 >>41388920 >>41388971

>>41387333
>Let's Go should have outperformed everyone but it didn't even break 12m.
>being the 5th best selling Switch games, only outsold by Mario Kart, Smash, Odyssey, and BotW, is a bad thing and "underperforming" now
Most publishers would kill to have LGPE's sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:22:38 No.41388873 Report

Quoted By: >>41388906

>>41388680
>t-they-re making up for the loss!
This is the console debut of the biggest franchise in the world, and every big Nintendo IP broke their own records EXCEPT this. If SWSH had that to flaunt, Nintendo would make an announcement congratulating SWSH on making [insert insane monetary figure], in comparison to past gens. Face it, SWSH isn't a flop, but it's the most underwhelming launch by expected standards for their IPs on the Switch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:23:03 No.41388887 Report

Quoted By:

>>41387333
>>41388852
Also forgot to mention: except for Smash (which came out only a month after), all of the four games above it were out for at least a year before LGPE were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:23:13 No.41388893 Report

Quoted By: >>41389190

>>41388588
true, but we can't determine how "diluted" the product is when only equiped with the sales figure of the last game 100% accurately. none of us knew the quality of X and Y when the sales figures of B2W2 came out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:23:50 No.41388906 Report

Quoted By: >>41388932

>>41388873
>moving the goal posts and raising expectations just to call SwSh a flop
It's not a flop. It even had a better launch than XY in many places.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:23:59 No.41388913 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384965
It’s a Pokemon game, flopping is impossible. Still, it’s nice to think that we might have made a dent in the sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:24:11 No.41388920 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388852
Don't forget LGPE cost fuck all to make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:24:42 No.41388932 Report

Quoted By: >>41389014 >>41389281

>>41388906
>in many places
lol we only have data for 2 places

uk (better by 10%) and japan (worse by 40%)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:25:10 No.41388945 Report

Quoted By: >>41388965

Do these take into account digital sales?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:25:44 No.41388965 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388945
Yes, because COMG is inflated

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:25:55 No.41388971 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388852
There goes the goal post. It doesn't matter if it's more than others, they set internal expectations and shareholders get to raise hell if they aren't met, and those goals are usually disgustingly greedy. The most recent case in point is COD BO4 where it made a fuckton of money from microtransactions but Activision had heads rolling for not meeting their launch sales goals. I'm not saying they're gonna fire everyone at GF but you can be DAMN sure they're taking a step back now. Especially with domestic sales declining since gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:27:08 No.41389014 Report

Quoted By: >>41389065 >>41389096 >>41389108 >>41389112 >>41392445

>>41388932
>japan (worse by 40%)
I already told you it's the fastest selling Switch release in that country ever. Higher than even Smash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:27:58 No.41389038 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388163
This.

MCU movies were literally just copypastas of each other, yet the vast majority of them made over a billion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:28:28 No.41389057 Report

Quoted By: >>41389141 >>41389145

Also, another factor that people here might not be realizing is that, in most cases, Nintendo only reports physical sales now but rarely digital sales. Considering a high proportion of Switch owners buy digital now, it's likely that the actual sales for all Switch games (including Pokemon) are actually higher than the reported figures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:28:48 No.41389065 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389014
Nigga it doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:29:26 No.41389096 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389014
Anon, have you seen the jump in launch sales for Smash, Mario, Zelda, and Mario Kart on the Switch? This game should have broken SM's records.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:29:43 No.41389108 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389014
still worse than sm, which is what investor-san is gonna look at before grilling masudas ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:29:43 No.41389112 Report

Quoted By: >>41389161

>>41389014
You compared it to XY

Now you compare it to Smash like it even matters. Non-Pokemon games have their own patterns. That's why Kart always ends up #1 despite not having strong first weeks.

Pokemon always sells strongly in the first week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:30:36 No.41389141 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389057
Read the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:30:42 No.41389145 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389057
Same for fucking Sun and Moon dipshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:31:01 No.41389161 Report

Quoted By: >>41389232

>>41389112
>Pokemon always sells strongly in the first week.
And it did.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:31:43 No.41389183 Report

Quoted By: >>41389255

>>41384684
>No day/night cycle until postgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:31:52 No.41389190 Report

Quoted By: >>41389393 >>41389706

>>41388893
True but if GF sees that gen 8 is underperforming compared to gen 6 and 7, they have to react unless they want to start a downward trend. Businesses and shareholders want growth. XY sold better than BW2, so GF saw this as a sign that players didnt really need all that extra stuff in gen 5. SM sold better than XY, which tells GF people like attention to Kanto. But if gen 8 sales are worse, it means that they removed something people want, and they have to sort that out and put it back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:32:53 No.41389227 Report

Quoted By:

>>41385071
>>41385226
No Pokemon game is selling over 17m ever so long as things stay the way they are. The franchise has stagnated too long, and the only ones who buy it are those who are compulsively addicted to the formula.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:33:03 No.41389232 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389161
Not compared to Pokemon. It's the worst new generation opener

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:33:56 No.41389255 Report

Quoted By: >>41389395

>>41389183
That's not completely true. The Wild Area has a proper day/night cycle even before beating the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:34:41 No.41389281 Report

Quoted By: >>41389348

>>41388932
>UK
>Only better than SM by 10%

In a region literally based on the UK, that's fucking pathetic. That would be like if the # of Patriots fans at Gillette Stadium was only 10% higher than the number of non-Patriots fans during a regular season game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:36:58 No.41389348 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389281
It's WORSE than SM by 40% (yes, in the UK)

It's better than XY by 10% (probably worse in France where XY sold)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:38:17 No.41389393 Report

Quoted By: >>41389526 >>41389550

>>41389190
Let's be real they fucking know what people want added back. Masuda was preemptively damage controlling by saying "we'll see with dex feedback a few weeks ago". They know people are spamming them on every social media platform about the dex. They know all their videos are being disliked. They know they got reviewbombed on metacritic and JP Amazon. This is the internet era and Masuda/Ohmori both admitted they frequently use social media to look for feedback on various aspects of the games. It's no flop but they know damn well they lost some money here and why they did

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:38:18 No.41389395 Report

Quoted By: >>41389418 >>41389505

>>41389255
Why the fuck does a Pokemon game have a progression-gated day/night cycle system in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:39:19 No.41389418 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389395
Didn't render story cutscenes in both day and night like morons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:40:41 No.41389455 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384684
based an dcpilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:42:39 No.41389505 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389395
From what I can tell, it's because the story is scripted to take place during certain times of the day (for example, your first battle with Team Yell in Motostoke at night, or all the mentions of "the next day").

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:43:22 No.41389526 Report

Quoted By: >>41389560

>>41389393
>Amazon
wew, you're right. These are the top reviews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:44:10 No.41389550 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389393
It's not just the natdex at this point. Gamefreak shot themselves in the foot hard because they have been getting away almost unnoticed by the majority for years regarding other things like outdated graphics and piss poor postgame. The natdex brought all of the other games faults to the forefront that most people would not have cared about otherwise. I don't think they will ever bring back the natdex, but from this gen on you can bet that people will be way more critical of many things Gamefreak is used to getting away with. I for one dont care about the natdex, but I wont buy the games because of almost everything else they didnt do.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:44:24 No.41389560 Report

Quoted By: >>41389767

>>41389526

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:45:02 No.41389573 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388619
>Gen 5 worst designs
>Introduced Galvantula and Volcarona

Yeah no, Gen 5 may have had some obviously bad designs with the ice cream and garbage pokemon, but you have to be on some extreme drugs to think it has the worst pokemon designs especially with all the Sword and Shield pokemon. Not to mention SwSh having some of the worst shinies is pretty bad.

But most of this argument is based on opinion, so who cares...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:46:48 No.41389618 Report

Quoted By: >>41389698 >>41389708 >>41389714

>/vp/ wants the games to flop so much that they're actually moving goalposts and redefining what is a "success" just to be able to say that SwSh is a flop
Pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:47:19 No.41389634 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384500
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:49:03 No.41389698 Report

Quoted By: >>41389734

>>41389618
lower than 15.6 million = worst selling gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:49:23 No.41389706 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389190
>if gen 8 sales are worse, it means that they removed something people want, and they have to sort that out and put it back.
this thing is though despite GF games in the past doing a downward trend in sales they never have done this. I can't think of a time they have ever removed something that they assume people wanted and added it back in the next game despite the game selling lower than its predecessor.
The best we can do is take stabs at the dark with multiple reasons as to why we know it will be bad. Things like GF craving for the Pokemon Go audience and the waning quality of the games is all we really need to justify it. Looking at sales won't provide any context without the combined review of the product the sales correspond to

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:49:31 No.41389708 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389618
Most people arnt even calling it a flop

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:49:37 No.41389714 Report

Quoted By: >>41389756

>>41389618
See >>41388623

Nobody believes that it's a flop, but the numbers aren't what they wanted and this is the sort of thing that bothers a lot investors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:50:22 No.41389734 Report

Quoted By: >>41389798

>>41389698
We won't know the full sales for at least another year. And again, digital sales. Do we know if the sales numbers for Sun/Moon include digital ones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:50:57 No.41389756 Report

Quoted By: >>41389828

>>41389714
>Nobody believes that it's a flop
Not really. Go to this thread and apparently people are already equating "slow start" or "lower than expected" as flop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:51:18 No.41389767 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389560
Pretty much all but a few of the top 30 reviews are 1 and 2 stars. The biggest complaint is the dex cut which ends up seguing into how cheap the rest is if they supposedly needed to cut them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:52:21 No.41389798 Report

Quoted By:

>>41389734
All the numbers in the OP include digital sales because

A) They're from Nintendo's mouth
or
B) They're from COMG (which is a generous estimate anyway assuming 1pt=100,000 sales since it's probably closer to 80,000)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:53:24 No.41389828 Report

Quoted By: >>41389889

>>41389756
1st week flopped

it can recover but I don't see how

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:55:56 No.41389889 Report

Quoted By: >>41389936

>>41389828
>1st week flopped
It didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 01:57:19 No.41389936 Report

Quoted By: >>41390888 >>41390924

>>41389889
it did

>muh outsold smash
only in uk (not even 20% of the european market, little relevance worldwide)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:34:47 No.41390888 Report

Quoted By: >>41390924

>>41389936
H

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:35:57 No.41390924 Report

Quoted By: >>41391034

>>41390888
trips of truth
>>41389936
H

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:40:30 No.41391034 Report

Quoted By:

>>41390924
All i said was H lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:44:44 No.41391142 Report

Quoted By: >>41391172 >>41391183 >>41391419 >>41391422 >>41391732 >>41392445

Do you think these games will have good legs? I feel there's more competition on the Switch than on a 3DS for games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:45:52 No.41391172 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391142
yeah, it's pokemon on a Nintendo system, it's bound to sell well and have longevity as the platform's best selling. If it was any other platform then yes there would be considerable competition

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:46:16 No.41391183 Report

Quoted By: >>41391331

>>41391142
It would have really good legs if there was positive buzz around these but it's mostly controversy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:51:38 No.41391331 Report

Quoted By: >>41391395 >>41391593 >>41392595

>>41391183
Even news sites mention that the controversy is mostly caused by a relatively small proportion of the fanbase, and how the high sales numbers showed that it that wasn't enough to kill sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:51:43 No.41391332 Report

Quoted By:

How many normies get spooked to buy the game anyway? I'm sure they have peers with roku tvs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:54:46 No.41391395 Report

Quoted By: >>41392285

>>41391331
It was never going to fail but this isn't the success it was likely meant to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:55:47 No.41391419 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391142
It's dubious, not everyone has an online paid subscription, and outside of larger channels like aDrive or Shofu (who promote the games and their online aspect). lesser known competitive players who were primarily console will not buy the games and refuse to play on console. I can speak from personal experience that finding matches takes longer now than it did when X and Y or Sun and Moon came out. My personal opinion is that the game will have a dedicated VGC playerbase that will be diminished compared to recent years, but it's dubious that this will be robust in even 3 or 4 months time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:55:56 No.41391422 Report

Quoted By: >>41391514

>>41391142
Who knows, I can't see this having the community life span of the 3DS games, people won't get invested in shiny hunting or balltism trading if everything they work on will just be banned from next year's game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 02:59:37 No.41391514 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391422
There's STILL tons of people on the 3ds games. I started a new X game today and PSS was filling up quickly as usual, wonder trades don't take long, people asking for mythicals like usual, etc. I can't see this happening with SWSH

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:00:20 No.41391540 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384564

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:02:15 No.41391593 Report

Quoted By: >>41391730

>>41391331
>by a relatively small proportion of the fanbase
>they had to cancel the release event
>they allowed cancellation of digital pre-orders
>sales are very low compared to its previous titles
I would say that it was enough. Considering that a pokemon game would sell even if it had a 50% chance of bricking your console, I would say that it was quite a hit they took.
Also, news sites gave the game a 9.3, so it's hard to trust them at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:04:17 No.41391654 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384641
These puns are great

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:04:50 No.41391684 Report

Quoted By:

>>41388797
>literally one ugly as fuck mon of the entire dex
Are you forgetting the starters lines, Boltund, Carkol, Toxel, Toxcricity, Grapploct, Perrserker, and ALL THE FOSSIL FUSIONS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:06:23 No.41391730 Report

Quoted By: >>41391806 >>41391812 >>41391838 >>41392057

>>41391593
>they had to cancel the release event
>they allowed cancellation of digital pre-orders
Again, due to a small proportion of the fanbase. You don't understand how violent vocal minorities can be, do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:06:25 No.41391732 Report

Quoted By: >>41392197

>>41391142
The biggest problems for the longevity of Sw/Sh is that they've alienated a hardcore group of Superfans. Back when S/M and usum came out there were outspoken voices bragging about how they weren't going to buy the game, but at the end of the day most people invested in the series did still get those games. The amount of interest behind the idea of boycotting Sword and Shield is unique compared to the past. If you are a part of any poke-community or forum it's very obvious that many of the superfans who would have comprised the backbone of the game's online simply haven't bought the game. It is so important for any online game that the most passionate people participate in your service, because they set trends and elevate the experience for everyone, especially the normies. If it's just kids and neanderthals online, this greatly diminishes the quality of everything, from your online matches to your wondertrades. In the end of the day if the quality of the online experience goes down because there are less superfans, the experience gets deprecated and normies will stop participating altogether.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:06:52 No.41391743 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384641
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:09:26 No.41391806 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391730
They cancelled it because there was going to be backlash. Don't be that guy and bring up the Kyoani arsonist who was missing a few screws and is getting a death sentence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:09:34 No.41391812 Report

Quoted By: >>41392434

>>41391730
You keep saying that it's a vocal minority, but comapred to XY and SM, it sold a third less.
I wouldn't say that a third of the fanbase is a "vocal minority".
Unless you are being pedantic and says that 49% of the players hating on it are just a "vocal minority"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:11:07 No.41391838 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391730
They receive death threats every year, and a lot more near releases. If a couple of death threats would be enough to make them stop doing what they are doing, TPC as a whole wouldn't even work anymore.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:19:45 No.41392057 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391730

If longtime fans are a 'vocal minority' then why couldn't the majority keep the games from getting a low user score?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:22:32 No.41392121 Report

Quoted By: >>41392651 >>41393373

>first recommended Youtube video after posting in the thread is a video talking about how SWSH's sales are worse than you think
Damnit Hiro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:26:04 No.41392197 Report

Quoted By: >>41392254

>>41391732
Ya know what thats a very real observation because i keep seeing people talk about how they need 6iv dittos specially japanese ones the dittos that make up comp if they are low it shows how much people are trying to fight back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:28:15 No.41392254 Report

Quoted By: >>41392399

>>41392197
I mean, anyone that thinks we weren't heard is delusional. Nintendo is starting to send emails to those who bought the game with a survey asking for things they liked and didn't like. That's never happened with Pokemon before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:29:20 No.41392285 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391395
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:34:40 No.41392399 Report

Quoted By:

>>41392254
Wow thats actually kinda cool i would pick it up only to answer that survey not gonna lie but yeah its really unpresidented but im glad nintendo is finally steping in do you think this will last

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:35:53 No.41392434 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391812
It's always funny when you see them act like even small percentages don't matter and then imagine whatever percent they're talking about punching them in the face.

If even 1% of people you met every day punched you in the face you'd be a fucking wreck mentally and possibly physically as well.

A percentages being relatively small isn't terribly reassuring if you stop and think about it.

And even in the gaming sphere. How many RNGs have you gone through in your life and been grateful it even had a 5% chance to drop/appear/etc.?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:36:23 No.41392445 Report

Quoted By: >>41392473 >>41392602

>>41389014
The sales figures from past generations have shown that Pokemon games tend to sell a disproportionate number of units close to launch relative to other series. This has been a pretty consistent trend for a while now. If SwSh have sold less than past generations after a given amount of time, then it stands to reason that they'll end up with less units sold when all is said and done. If these numbers are correct, then this would indeed be a very disappointing launch for a main series Pokemon game. The only thing that remains to be seen is whether digital sales were included and, if not, how many there were.

>>41391142
Given the extremely poor word of mouth surrounding these games, I actually think their sales will be even more front-loaded than past generations. I checked out /r/Pokemon to see what they were saying, and even over there, reception has been overwhelmingly negative, and subreddits are known for being the biggest circlejerks on the modern internet when it comes to their subject matter. Combined with the extremely low user score and the fact that the whole Dexit thing was fairly high profile, I can't imagine its sales are going to hold steady past the holiday season.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:37:30 No.41392473 Report

Quoted By: >>41392537

>>41392445
The SwSh shills have set up shop in a separate subreddit, so consider the numbers from there as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:40:02 No.41392537 Report

Quoted By: >>41392562 >>41392589

>>41392473
What's it called? I didn't really know there was more than one Pokemon subreddit. Either way, though, I'm guessing the one that's just called "/r/Pokemon" is the biggest, so if you want to put your finger on the pulse of what the fanbase is thinking, surely that would be the best place, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:40:55 No.41392562 Report

Quoted By: >>41392949 >>41393290

>>41392537
Like you said ,each subreddit is a circlejerk echo chamber, so consider multiple subredits instead. I think it's Pokemonswordandshield

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:42:05 No.41392589 Report

Quoted By: >>41392949 >>41393290

>>41392537
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordShield/
For the dedicated gen 8 cocksuckers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:42:24 No.41392595 Report

Quoted By:

>>41391331
>how the high sales numbers showed that it that wasn't enough to kill sales.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/11/19/pokemon-fans-are-disappointed-with-the-series-late.aspx

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:42:35 No.41392602 Report

Quoted By:

>>41392445

Hmm, if you're right, I guess Nintendo fucking forgot that millions of 26 year olds are buying games and they are very eager to see their internet rage lead to something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:44:21 No.41392651 Report

Quoted By: >>41393278

>>41392121
whats the video? im interested

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:55:30 No.41392949 Report

Quoted By: >>41392984

>>41392562
>>41392589
I dunno, this subreddit seems incredibly small. Looking at the currently active users for each, /r/Pokemon is at 13000 and this place is barely over 100. It comes across less as the Reddit Pokemon community being "split" on SwSh, and more as an extremely small number of butthurt shills cloistering up in their own hugbox because even the usual hugbox was turning on the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 03:56:55 No.41392984 Report

Quoted By: >>41393284

>>41392949
That's because the shills ran out of game to play after a day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:08:08 No.41393278 Report

Quoted By: >>41393373 >>41393399

>>41392651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU6lVoZpgBM

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:08:28 No.41393284 Report

Quoted By:

>>41392984
Danm lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:08:46 No.41393290 Report

Quoted By: >>41393334

>>41392562
>>41392589
You're probably thinking of /r/PokemonSwordAndShield

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:10:28 No.41393334 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393290
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/
Appears so

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:11:34 No.41393373 Report

Quoted By: >>41393430

>>41392121
>>41393278
>Watching e-celebs are okay now as long as they shit on the games!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:12:39 No.41393399 Report

Quoted By: >>41393530 >>41393768 >>41393935

>>41393278
They don't realize but the comparison with Smash is bullshit

Famitsu includes digital sales for SWSH
MC doesn't include digital sales for Smash

SWSH did not outsold Smash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:13:45 No.41393430 Report

Quoted By: >>41393600 >>41393640

>>41393373
I said it was recommended, but I know shills lack reading comprehension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:17:13 No.41393530 Report

Quoted By: >>41393565 >>41393652

>>41393399
So the video is false?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:18:20 No.41393565 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393530
The video is saying the same thing morons ITT are saying. All websites claim SWSH outsold Smash but it didn't

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:19:19 No.41393600 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393430
>Um...blame shills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:21:18 No.41393640 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393430
Based Spoink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:21:47 No.41393652 Report

Quoted By: >>41393758 >>41393768

>>41393530
The video is lazy. But slightly less lazy than articles claiming SWSH sales are huge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:25:24 No.41393758 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393652
>The video is lazy
Elaborate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:26:02 No.41393768 Report

Quoted By: >>41393844 >>41393864

>>41393652
>>41393399
So that video is basically clickbait?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:28:37 No.41393844 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393768
It’s a Pokemon youtube video, they’re all clickbait.
This is just clickbait that’s considering a point others aren’t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:29:28 No.41393864 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393768
It's mostly right, they just didn't account for all Smash sales like most websites aren't

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:31:05 No.41393916 Report

Quoted By: >>41394032 >>41394092

>>41385879
Hey Gamefreaaaak! I'm respecting your privacy by knocking, but asserting my authority as your shareholder by coming in anyway

*Bang*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:32:00 No.41393935 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393399
>Famitsu includes digital sales for SWSH
No it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:33:45 No.41393997 Report

Quoted By: >>41394122 >>41394138 >>41394401

>>41384478
It’s the fastest selling Switch game ever in Japan, and that’s not even counting the digital copies. Quit crying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:35:17 No.41394032 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393916
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:37:05 No.41394092 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393916
Good shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:38:23 No.41394122 Report

Quoted By: >>41394246 >>41394420

>>41393997
>Fastest Selling Switch Game
>With all that controversy
>Still underselling the last two mainline games

Now if you were a big business man what would you be thinking?

"gee this is great, I'm happy with this much money?"

or

"gee this is great, what were the ways we could have made MORE?"

This is what fucking happens and why so many GoISMs are slipping into mainline. Reminder, BW underselling was enough to completely change the direction of the franchise.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:39:14 No.41394138 Report

Quoted By:

>>41393997

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:43:03 No.41394246 Report

Quoted By: >>41394401

>>41394122
BW had the biggest launch in the series by the way

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:43:47 No.41394266 Report

Quoted By:

>>41384478
On god? This makes me happy, not all hope is lost bros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:44:36 No.41394297 Report

Quoted By: >>41394364 >>41394406 >>41394411

>tfw so bored of Sword (and only just fought Nessa) and considering playing Gen VII for the first time

Is UMUS really that bad compared to SWSH?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:47:13 No.41394364 Report

Quoted By: >>41394481

>>41394297
USUM is way better, it's also the hardest game in the series if you turn off EXP share

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:47:32 No.41394375 Report

Quoted By: >>41394438

>>41384478
More than likely affected by the higher entry price rather than the quality of the game itself. Otherwise shit like Go wouldnt be played by hundreds of milions of players daily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:48:29 No.41394401 Report

Quoted By:

>>41394246
BW didn't have worldwide release

>>41393997
It IS counting digital copies, you retard. Famitsu always includes digital copies.

It is MC that doesn't include them, which is the number people use for Smash.

Smash is probably the fastest selling, not Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:48:43 No.41394406 Report

Quoted By: >>41394481

>>41394297
If youre only playing for the story SM is unironically better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:48:50 No.41394411 Report

Quoted By: >>41394481

>>41394297
It's not, gen 7 is actually pretty good aside from no frontier and cutscene hell, and poor o3ds performance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:48:56 No.41394420 Report

Quoted By: >>41394735

>>41394122
>"gee this is great, I'm happy with this much money?"
>"gee this is great, what were the ways we could have made MORE?"

I'd be panicking. An investor in 2019 is not only expecting profits, but also the promise of huge growth and much larger profits down the line. Profitability is boring, you are always expecting an Amazon, Facebook, or an Uber, a company that can command 90%+ marketshare and turn everyone else into a paypig.

If you're TPCI, 2019 should have been the biggest year in Pokemon history since Pokemania. We had Detective Pikachu, Pokemon Masters, and Generation VIII on the Switch. Everything does well, but nothing did Pokemon Go well. And that means the year's been a disaster, because TPCI has nothing like this in the pipe for the next several years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:49:35 No.41394438 Report

Quoted By: >>41394468 >>41394497

>>41394375

If they drop the price of this game sometime before the next mainline entry, does that mean dexchads won?

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:49:57 No.41394453 Report

Quoted By: >>41395117

>>41384478
>Slow start
gen 4 confurmmmmed!

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:50:45 No.41394468 Report

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>>41394438
Nintendo keeps shit like Federation Force full price years later.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:51:02 No.41394481 Report

Quoted By: >>41394526 >>41394571 >>41394598 >>41394632

>>41394364
Well I just ordered a copy, so I hope I like it. SWSH is insultingly easy and it feels like I'm playing a game designed for 4 year olds.

How does EXP Share work in UM? Does it only attach to one Pokemon?

>>41394406
I just wanna collect, battle and have some fun story fights.

>>41394411
I ended up skipping it because ORAS really turned me off Pokemon as a series. I hope it's fun. It looks packed with content.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:51:42 No.41394497 Report

Quoted By: >>41394578

>>41394438
They already did. It's been on sale for 3 days now in Japan for physical, meaning they didn't move all the copies they ordered.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:52:43 No.41394526 Report

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>>41394481
EXP Share in gen 6/7 is for the full party but is a key item you can simple disable.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:54:27 No.41394571 Report

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>>41394481
You can turn it off but it works like an exp all

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:54:52 No.41394578 Report

Quoted By: >>41394618

>>41394497
source?

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:55:49 No.41394598 Report

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>>41394481
>ORAS really turned me off
Oooh yikes. In that case I'm not sure if you'll enjoy it or not. I personally enjoyed ORAS well enough to be my favorite 3ds pokemon game and found it to be much more content filled than USUM. But it's just preference in the end you'll just have to play it yourself

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:56:39 No.41394618 Report

Quoted By: >>41394634 >>41394671

>>41394578
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E4%BB%BB%E5%A4%A9%E5%A0%82-%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC-%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89-Switch/dp/B07V3KK93X?pf_rd_p=58c92908-f2b1-4cbf-98d2-8911a92c77a0&pd_rd_wg=ajWbh&pf_rd_r=WGKHQVNFD5KPNFE9CTGZ

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:57:06 No.41394632 Report

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>>41394481
Like gen 6, but XP is scaled like in gen 5 so it's far more balanced.

Have fun with the totem fights. The unfortunate thing is that USM has a worse story than SM, but you can always check out the differences when you're done

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:57:10 No.41394634 Report

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>>41394618
heheheheheheh

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 04:58:42 No.41394671 Report

Quoted By: >>41394737

>>41394618
>https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E4%BB%BB%E5%A4%A9%E5%A0%82-%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC-%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89-Switch/dp/B07V3KK93X?pf_rd_p=58c92908-f2b1-4cbf-98d2-8911a92c77a0&pd_rd_wg=ajWbh&pf_rd_r=WGKHQVNFD5KPNFE9CTGZ
OH DAMNNN they scared alright. HAahaah

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:01:19 No.41394735 Report

Quoted By: >>41394780 >>41394871

>>41394420
This game would've sold absolute gangbusters if they hadn't wiped half the dex and had GTS, that's literally all they needed to please 99% of the fanbase, yet they couldn't even manage that much.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:01:22 No.41394737 Report

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>>41394671
This is around $50USD if anyone is wondering.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:02:40 No.41394780 Report

Quoted By: >>41394891

>>41394735
They got greedy trying to push Home on people. with the amount of pushback they're going to have to drastically rethink this shit, because if the sales don't bomb now, they will next time.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:02:55 No.41394788 Report

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>>41384478
>Switch has smaller install base
>MSRP is higher both for hardware and software
Not entirely unexpected desu

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:03:07 No.41394795 Report

Quoted By: >>41394894

Hopefully this means we can get more Masuda memes. https://old.vocaroo.com/i/s0OP1Mt6p2Kl

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:05:32 No.41394871 Report

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>>41394735
I'd say not even the GTS needed to be in.
The only thing this game needed was a full fucking Dex and there would have been NO controversy.
They'd have had their Pokemania 2. Imagine, all the naysayers who'd have been hyping this game up instead. All the doubters who'd have propped up this game.

But they wanted to push Pokemon Bank, so for a monthly fee service, they ended up losing costumers instead. Like, there would have been people who'd buy it just to transfer their Mon to Sword and Shield, and then buy it again to transfer them to 9th Gen.

But they wanted that fucking monthly service fee so bad and now they've paid for it and the guy who probably advocated for it is getting the BUGS

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:06:14 No.41394891 Report

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>>41394780
>greedy
This is a big issue really. B/c you not only have to pay for Home when it comes out, but also Nintendo online. With half the dex and GTS gone what's the point? Basically just money being given for nothing

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:06:19 No.41394894 Report

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>>41394795
This guy is gonna need to make an Ishihara voice for when he
>Mistaaah Masudaaaa's
Masuda and Ohmori soon

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:10:49 No.41395004 Report

Quoted By: >>41395086 >>41395334

At this point I wish GameFreak had made Ultra Sun and Moon the mainline debut for Switch and we had gotten SWSH in 2020

They could’ve at least used that opportunity to expand on the games more like bringing back DexNav and giving it a sidequest.

Hell they could’ve experimented with a party system by having Hau and Lillie accompany you in dungeons which could be redesigned to be actually dungeons with an Ultra Beast at the end of each one.

Hell they could’ve added even more new Pokemon like a Fire/Fighting Psuedo Legendary based off the Nene (The state bird of Hawaii) or even new Alolan Forms like a Fire/Water or Fire/Ice variant of the Spheal line based off the monk seal.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:14:12 No.41395086 Report

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>>41395004
L

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:15:19 No.41395117 Report

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>>41394453
To be honest. Slow Start should just boost all of Regigigas’ stats every 7 turns.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:17:04 No.41395163 Report

Quoted By: >>41395352

>>41388797
Gen V has mostly good designs, the whole thing about it being bad comes down to a handful of bad ones and memes. Meanwhile pokemon designs in general have been getting worse with 3D when they looked better as sprites.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:24:17 No.41395334 Report

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>>41395004
They could but that's more work, they just want to rush and release whatever so the people would consume it.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:25:08 No.41395352 Report

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>>41395163
>Gen V has mostly good designs
stopped reading there

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:26:37 No.41395378 Report

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>>41387573
How about NOT buying the game at all. If you MUST play it, pirate it or at least wait until 2020 and get it used.

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 05:37:39 No.41395573 Report

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>>41395117
Does it?

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 06:36:24 No.41396593 Report

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>>41386479
wasnt xy the seller of the 3ds before it there were no big games and the console wasnt doing well iirc so this whole not as many people own it seems a bit pointless plus switch is portable as well

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 07:02:42 No.41397118 Report

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>SM was on the 3DS, of course they sold more!!
Three Houses is projected to overtake Fates' lifetime sales fairly soon, and it's only been out for a few months. If Fire Emblem could BTFO its 3DS predecessor, why can't Pokemon?

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