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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:05:41 No.41417079 View View Reply Original Report

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>"F A I R A N D BALANCED COMPETITION"

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:07:07 No.41417124 Report

Quoted By: >>41418961 >>41421279 >>41423087 >>41423281 >>41424258

>>41417079
No one cares about balance OP. I'm not even saying that to dismiss you. It's just no one buys this series for anything but playing with cute pretend animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:19:08 No.41417486 Report

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>>41417079
Wait what? I dont own the new games, is that atk stat accurate for the transformation?

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:20:57 No.41417535 Report

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ABSOLUTE STATE.
I really like the absurd route Pokémon is taking though, why not go out in a spectacular crash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:22:38 No.41417579 Report

Quoted By: >>41417682

>>41417079
>>41417486
Wait I see now he applied belly drum. Not sure what your point is OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:22:45 No.41417582 Report

Quoted By: >>41417643

>>41417486

Yep,aftet belly drum. Its not even adamant,or banded as you can see

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:24:05 No.41417629 Report

Quoted By: >>41417743

>>41417079
he dies easily and is simple to prevent

fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:24:40 No.41417643 Report

Quoted By: >>41417730

>>41417582
banded would be stupid with bellydrum

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:25:43 No.41417682 Report

Quoted By: >>41417729 >>41417794

>>41417579

>what is your point op
>1,6k atk with 405 speed not even scarfed
>what is your point op
>what
>is
>your
>point
>op

Fucking kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:27:03 No.41417729 Report

Quoted By: >>41418173

>>41417682
Yeah AFTER Belly drum. Opponent has a shot to do something about it, and with that typing, 1 shotting it should be cake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:27:03 No.41417730 Report

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>>41417643
no

>belly drum
>dmax
>keep both bonuses and free to use whatever move

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:27:35 No.41417743 Report

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>>41417629

>Xhe doesnt know about dynamax and dynamax moves effects

Gtfo tranny shiller

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:29:11 No.41417794 Report

Quoted By: >>41417916

>>41417682
you sound like you'd let this thing set up in your face and say that it's unfair

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:30:41 No.41417844 Report

Quoted By: >>41418093

>make a pokemon with already ridicule good atk
>give it an ability thats an incorporated choice band
>just to force people using dynamax and shitty priority moves

W-wait a second...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:32:39 No.41417894 Report

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>>41417079
>Belly Drum
>It's halving its HP, with its crap defenses and defensive typing
A light breeze will kill it on the setup turn, and most priority moves could beat it even after.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:33:26 No.41417916 Report

Quoted By: >>41417999 >>41418079

>>41417794

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT KIND OF FUCKING POKEMON TAKES 1,6K FROM A SINGLE ATTACK,LET ALONE BE EARTHQUAKE. NOT EVEN FUCKING FERROTHORN TROUGH PROTECT YOU IMBECILE DICKSUCKING FAGGOT

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:36:28 No.41417999 Report

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>>41417916
>capslock underage rage
Firstly, this site is 18+, secondly, you'd try to prevent it to Belly Drum which is easy as long as you're not retarded, lastly get the fuck out of this site until you're over the age of 18.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:39:03 No.41418079 Report

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>>41417916
anything with unaware

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:39:33 No.41418093 Report

Quoted By: >>41421652

>>41417844
Does the choice band stack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:39:39 No.41418099 Report

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>haha dude just hit it first attack its weakness bro haha

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:40:41 No.41418138 Report

Quoted By: >>41423548

Just use sash lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:40:49 No.41418144 Report

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>>41417999
>doesn’t know shit about SwSh competitive
>hurr durr underage

You look like the faggot here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:41:52 No.41418173 Report

Quoted By: >>41418299 >>41418314

>>41417729
That would be fine if Darmanitan-G didn’t have a choice band ability in the back.
If this thing gets to switch in at all, you have to predict if they are going to be belly drum set or Gorilla Tactics

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:43:50 No.41418261 Report

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>>41417079
>Caterpie used Stone Edge
Nothing personal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:45:04 No.41418299 Report

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>>41418173
Just like any other sweeper then, it takes a bit of set up. Im not scared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:45:28 No.41418314 Report

Quoted By: >>41418349

>>41418173
>goes first to bell drum and bit sitting on a x4 weakness to stone
So what youre saying everyone runs a stone move on a 4th slot? Cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:47:06 No.41418349 Report

Quoted By: >>41421379

>>41418314
Or just have anyone with mach punch come out next

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:48:30 No.41418407 Report

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Sturdy gigalith with rock blast in case it has a sub, can set up rocks and use explosion/red card

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:51:21 No.41418490 Report

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>choise scarf ditto
Pshhhh nuttin personal

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Anonymous Thu 21 Nov 2019 23:53:13 No.41418562 Report

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>>41417079
>belly drum in a meta swarming with imposter ditto and choice scarfers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 00:03:43 No.41418883 Report

Quoted By: >>41418921

>he doesn't carry pic related on his team

Serves you right. Darmanitan is breakfast for my boy

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 00:04:46 No.41418921 Report

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>>41418883

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 00:05:27 No.41418942 Report

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>>41417079
>pokemon with high base stat and invested in attack has high attack when belly drum increases it four times

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 00:06:02 No.41418961 Report

Quoted By: >>41419343

>>41417124
Then why cut 60% of them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 00:06:09 No.41418968 Report

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>>41417079
>1676 ATK

TRUKK NOT MUNKEY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 00:19:28 No.41419343 Report

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>>41418961
To pretend they are brand new next gen.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 00:28:35 No.41419596 Report

Quoted By: >>41420888 >>41420926 >>41420976 >>41422970

meanwhile in gen 6:

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:13:31 No.41420888 Report

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>>41419596

>mawile has to set up 3 times
>white russian negrois has just do it once to get all the boost

Your point is invalid ,tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:14:58 No.41420926 Report

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>>41419596
meanwhile in gen 6 it take 3 turns to get that far and you still half the speed of a turn 1 set up rape ape

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:16:21 No.41420976 Report

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>>41419596

Mawile has to set up 3 times,darmanegronitan just once. Also,mawile ability DOUBLE its atk and is slow as fuck.
Also theres no fucking mega in gen 8 you absolute mongoloid

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:19:00 No.41421060 Report

Quoted By: >>41421296 >>41421305 >>41421441

>>41417079
>Setup sweeper gets rewarded for setting up

K

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:23:07 No.41421196 Report

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>>41417079
>sends out ditto
what are you gonna do now white boi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:25:52 No.41421279 Report

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>>41417124
no one here is 5 anymore anon. a good portion of adults want some more challenge than just catching some pokemans

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:26:14 No.41421296 Report

Quoted By: >>41421399

>>41421060
I fucking hate this gen
>cut Greninja
>make new Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:26:24 No.41421305 Report

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>>41421060
except the 50% chance its not actually a set up mon and it one shots with with double band
g-darm is good because its unpredictable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:26:53 No.41421320 Report

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>>41417079
*Choice Scarf Dugtrio
*Unaware Quagsire
*Unaware Pyukumuku
*Haze Toxapex
*Haze Corsola

Haze goes through Substitute btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:28:38 No.41421379 Report

Quoted By: >>41421476

>>41418349
>Or just have anyone with mach punch come out next
Unless you have the foresight for the Belly Drum to switch on the turn it uses it, whatever you bring out is getting absolutely dunked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:29:19 No.41421399 Report

Quoted By: >>41421503

>>41421296
The movepool is substantially worse in return for 2 signature moves in court change and Pyro Ball

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:30:42 No.41421441 Report

Quoted By: >>41421472

>>41421060
>That HJK animation

Is that it? Scorbunny doesn't even move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:31:33 No.41421472 Report

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>>41421441
Animations are turned off but its his Physical attack animation but falling down

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:31:45 No.41421476 Report

Quoted By: >>41421833

>>41421379
At most, you lose one mon before you can bring out your mach puncher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:31:50 No.41421480 Report

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>>41421279
Then they should consider playing a different game because clearly the Pokemon Company has no intention of publishing Pokemon games that are targeted to an older audience. SMT and Digimon Cyber Sleuth are pretty close in terms of gameplay and content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:32:24 No.41421503 Report

Quoted By: >>41421531 >>41421603

>>41421399
Not weak to being Mach Punch means a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:33:17 No.41421531 Report

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>>41421503
Its not like Mach Punch is relevant im the meta, Conkledurr gets fuuuuucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:35:25 No.41421603 Report

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>>41421503
He is weak to physical Corsola though, strength sapped and night shaded for ages, and it sucks too because Night shade is going to chunk whatever it hits

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:37:10 No.41421652 Report

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>>41418093
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:42:54 No.41421833 Report

Quoted By: >>41421866 >>41421894

>>41421476
>sets up psychic terrain with max Zen Headbutt
What now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:43:54 No.41421866 Report

Quoted By: >>41422245

>>41421833
You're sacrificing coverage for a meme, and still die to Ditto. Congratulations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:44:44 No.41421894 Report

Quoted By: >>41422566 >>41423136

>>41421833
>sets up

Stop right there senpai. If I give you the opportunity to do so, then thats my bad and misplay, or your previous good play that gave you some room to do so. This goes to any hypothetical "what if i set this up" scenario

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:54:25 No.41422216 Report

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Dynamax Dugtrio is actually really good in Ubers.
I have never considered the use of Max Phantasm(Shadow Claw) to lower the defense of anything I dont OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 01:55:08 No.41422245 Report

Quoted By: >>41422933

>>41421866
Ditto won't save your ass if the ape is scarfed Gorilla Tactics.
Again, it isn't about it not having counters. The problem is it has at least 3 sets than are not only viable but game-breaking and thus completely polarising. If you predict the set wrong or don't have 3 dedicated checks to it, it's gg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:05:32 No.41422566 Report

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>>41421894
That might be relevant as a whole, but the specific example he gave involves using a max move to kill your mon while also helping to counter potential revenge killers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:18:05 No.41422933 Report

Quoted By: >>41423094

>>41422245
i dont do singles much so probably wrong here but wouldn't mach punch check all of the sets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:19:18 No.41422970 Report

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>>41419596
>Stats being high is the problem, just ignore the ease of which to get these high stats, as well as the relative powerlevel of the Metagame
>Also ignore how Mega Mawile is banned in Gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:23:07 No.41423087 Report

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>>41417124
OP is laughing over Masuda shitty excuses.

Same reason why people got obsessed over the model thing or quality of SWSh graphics in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:23:15 No.41423094 Report

Quoted By: >>41423242

>>41422933
Unfortunately Dexit + no home gutted Mach Punch's distribution. Plus there is Psychic Terrain (granted, not a lot of people seem to carry that)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:24:56 No.41423136 Report

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>>41421894
This would be a decent argument if Darmanitan didn’t also get GT, making it a 50/50 guess where guessing wrong means you lose, and also if the rest of the Metagame was as good.
And that’s what makes National Dex OU more balanced and competitive, since Darmanitan has to deal with a much higher powerlevel with both checks, competition, and things it can’t set up on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:25:23 No.41423148 Report

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How is the National dex meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:28:13 No.41423215 Report

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Oh man that is some nasty fucking bait oh gee

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:29:32 No.41423242 Report

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>>41423094
would iron fist conkeldurr not be enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:30:45 No.41423281 Report

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>>41417124
Then why do they have yearly competitions with hundreds on cash prizes?

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:40:47 No.41423548 Report

Quoted By: >>41423644

>>41418138
>Belly drum
>Sash
Really makes you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:43:32 No.41423644 Report

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>>41423548
I think he was referring to counterplay, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 02:45:32 No.41423711 Report

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>pokemon has high attack after using a move that maxes its attack
gee, who would have guessed. also Darmanitan was always a powerhouse. it’s basically inseparable from its godly attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 03:05:11 No.41424255 Report

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Pokemon that are clearly Ubers Tier this gen:
Gyarados
Darmanitan
Hawlucha

These should be banned to Ubers. Also, ban Shadow Tag from Ubers please

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 03:05:17 No.41424258 Report

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>>41417124
And yet that was the excuse Masuda made, and yet showdown had 15k concurrent users, and yet Pokémon runs competitions around the world officially, and yet they’ve nerfed a bunch of shit between games. Don’t kid yourself bud, competitive is way bigger than you realize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 04:36:16 No.41426447 Report

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