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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:28:12 No.41511871 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41512090 >>41512128 >>41513356 >>41513682

>holy shit this town looks cool just from the start I cant wait to see all the neat shit inside

A FUCKING HALLWAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:29:11 No.41511906 Report

Quoted By: >>41511956 >>41511982

at what point exactly did GF decide to pawn off exploration for story content

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:30:40 No.41511956 Report

Quoted By: >>41512002 >>41512029 >>41512113 >>41512404 >>41512895

>>41511906
Eh, go play the old games again, you'll realize they're practically the same except in top view. The only town that feels like a truly "explorable" area was Lance/Clair's town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:30:50 No.41511966 Report

Quoted By: >>41512046

people have lots of different opinions on the route's for swsh, as even older pokemon games had their simple ones.

But the towns in swsh are dreadful, i think almost everyone can agree they suck and are lacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:31:23 No.41511982 Report

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>>41511906
SM had a much more in your face story and it still had much better exploration

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:32:05 No.41512002 Report

Quoted By: >>41512046

>>41511956
towns in older pokemon games weren't massive or anything but they definitely had more to see dude.

Some have less to see than pallet town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:33:24 No.41512029 Report

Quoted By: >>41512046 >>41512053

>>41511956
There isn't a single town, even in Gen VI, that is a literal hallway composed of nothing but the gym and pokécenter, dumbfuck.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:34:25 No.41512046 Report

Quoted By: >>41512286 >>41512292 >>41512879 >>41512959

>>41511966
I actually think Hammerstroke and Circhester (god what a mouthful) were pretty decent towns but otherwise I agree.

>>41512002
??? Go literally grab a whole map, it's practically the same.

>>41512029
I was arguing about simple routes. >>41511966 this anon got the idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:34:44 No.41512053 Report

Quoted By: >>41512140 >>41512163

>>41512029
>Ever Grande City is literally a Pokémon Center and an entrance to Victory Road
>even in the remakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:36:15 No.41512090 Report

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>>41511871
>Sign mentions how the streets are packed with markets
>There's no fucking shops

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:37:22 No.41512113 Report

Quoted By: >>41512224

>>41511956

Let´s see...

>Pallet Town in FRLG
>3 houses
>One is yours, you can heal here
>Rival´s house, his sister gives you a couple of things in FRLG
>Prof. Lab
>A pond/sea to fish or surf
>Some tall grass just down below
>Town neatly connects to the first route and the sea route below for you to arrive later on in the game
>The statement above is a testament of how good progression felt since the whole region was sort of non-linear in some areas but also worked in a way that you had to return to your hometown later, finish the final gym in Viridian and revisit older places, giving you some sort of "power trip" before Victory Road isntead of it being a straight fucking line.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:37:43 No.41512128 Report

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>>41511871
>Ironically the only town with any substance outside of "it looks pretty"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:38:06 No.41512140 Report

Quoted By: >>41512392 >>41512885

>>41512053
Ever Grande City is literally home to Victory Road and the League, what the fuck are you on about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:38:53 No.41512163 Report

Quoted By: >>41515060

>>41512053

Honestly, has the League EVER been something more than Victory Road, a place to heal and the E4? Not defending it, but no other game had done it differently either AFAIK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:41:03 No.41512224 Report

Quoted By: >>41512295 >>41512323

>>41512113
That's literally a simple route. If that world is translated into 3d you'll see people complain. It only looked massive because of the top view.

I'm not defending the OP city because that shit is lazy and boring, just questioning the "old towns are complex" idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:43:36 No.41512286 Report

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>>41512046
that town's pretty good to me, plenty of houses you can enter, a contest, a mall, and the area where you can go on the ship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:43:57 No.41512292 Report

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>>41512046
I was actually surprised when Circhester turned out to be a big town since every other town other than the ones connected to wildzones were tiny. But it turns out that Melony's fat ass just ate Piers town so we got one decently sized town followed up by nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:44:02 No.41512295 Report

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>>41512224

At least Gen 3 was honest, go to Rustboro in the GBA, you can enter every building there, but even the Kanto remakes had these "fake houses" that had no fucking door, I was mad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:45:02 No.41512323 Report

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>>41512224
>If that world is translated into 3d
It already was. In a shit demake meant for casuals that somehow managed to be better than the game advertised as "we want long-time fans to play it and think 'this is what I was waiting for'".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:47:07 No.41512392 Report

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>>41512140
It's one facility and a pokemon center

It's like calling a college in the middle of nowhere a city just because someone put a gas station next door.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 01:47:34 No.41512404 Report

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>>41511956
Presentation is a major factor. Even if there's only a gym and pokecenter, a varied layout would have helped give it more life. Having to duck behind an alley for a double battle isn't much worth noting

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:03:53 No.41512879 Report

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>>41512046
Now imagine Gen 8...

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:04:03 No.41512885 Report

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>>41512140
Despite having a pokemon center, kanto route 4 is not a city

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:04:20 No.41512895 Report

Quoted By: >>41513034 >>41513241 >>41513750 >>41515350

>>41511956
>ThEy'Re PrAcTiCtIcAlLy ThE SaMe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:06:48 No.41512959 Report

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>>41512046
Lilycove is great and has nice presentation though, what are you on about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:09:25 No.41513034 Report

Quoted By: >>41513064 >>41513406

>>41512895
Isn't Mt. Mortar a postgame dungeon? Compare it to Rock Tunnel or Twist Mountain instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:10:19 No.41513064 Report

Quoted By: >>41514083

>>41513034
Ok let's compare it to Galar's postgame dungeons let's see...

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:14:08 No.41513160 Report

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Oh shit, anon, there's some wild Pokemon Dynamaxing over here!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:16:42 No.41513241 Report

Quoted By: >>41513410

>>41512895
I wish this image had bigger maps for the Galar mines. It'd be nice to see exactly how complex or basic they are. It's hard to tell just looking at this.
As a side note, it's really dumb how they're just called "Galar Mine No. 1" and "Galar Mine No. 2". It's as if those are the names that the devs used in development, and they forgot to come up with actual names for the final release.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:20:43 No.41513356 Report

Quoted By: >>41513432 >>41513750

>>41511871
>Keep hearing Spikemuth is A FUCKING HALLWAY
>It was a massive Streets of Rage/side-scrolling beat 'em up reference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:22:24 No.41513406 Report

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>>41513034
It's not, it's just optional. You can explore it the second you get surf. Granted you can't explore all of it until you get Waterfall, but that's still not post-game.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:22:30 No.41513410 Report

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>>41513241
You can clearly see by the icons that's they're both just a zigzag hallways with a small dead end by the side with an item, the other """secret"""" exit in the first one leads to pic related

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:23:24 No.41513432 Report

Quoted By: >>41513490 >>41513506 >>41514577

>>41513356
Whats this a reference to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:25:27 No.41513490 Report

Quoted By: >>41514192

>>41513432
>haha gottem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:25:58 No.41513506 Report

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>>41513432
Galarian Weezing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:31:42 No.41513682 Report

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>>41511871
some towns are pretty cool design wise but are empty as fuck and almost pointless outside a clothes shop gym and center.
in the terms of spikemuth i was like a cool dark city like the fairy forest literally a fucking hallway and never seen again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:33:46 No.41513750 Report

Quoted By: >>41513965 >>41514067

>>41513356
I feel kinda stupid not getting that. The whole city felt really weird and that would explain it.

>>41512895
Dungeon design is a dead art, casuals killed it because anything that isn't a straight line frustrates them. I can't even shit on the SWSH dungeons as much as I want to because almost every modern game looks like that. As fucked up as it sounds, they're just giving people what they want (nevermind that it's also less work for them).

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:36:59 No.41513851 Report

Quoted By: >>41514028 >>41514153

Sword and shield should have had the longest caves so you could camp out to heal and keep going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:41:24 No.41513965 Report

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>>41513750
Only thing that made dungeons frustrating to some was the random encounter rates, now that we have overworld ones they had no excuse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:44:06 No.41514028 Report

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>>41513851
That would be good level design
But that also takes effort from Game Freak, and why put in effort when they'll buy it anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:46:04 No.41514067 Report

Quoted By: >>41514844

>>41513750
>casuals killed it because anything that isn't a straight line frustrates them
>tfw retarded jap kids getting lost in mt. Coronet ruined everything

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:46:45 No.41514083 Report

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>>41513064
fucking based

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:49:17 No.41514153 Report

Quoted By: >>41514577

>>41513851
Can you even camp outside the wild area?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 02:50:47 No.41514192 Report

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>>41513490
I did. Thank you for noticing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:04:42 No.41514577 Report

Quoted By: >>41515143

>>41514153
I see the word "camp" on this map >>41513432, and it isn't the wild area, so I assume it's possible to camp in specific spots in the regular routes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:12:49 No.41514844 Report

Quoted By: >>41514983

>>41514067
I shudder to think how GF will butcher Coronet in the remakes

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:17:24 No.41514983 Report

Quoted By: >>41515245

>>41514844
It will be a hallway with at least two cutscenes. Screencap this.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:19:54 No.41515060 Report

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>>41512163
The League in SWSH is an entire city with a boutique, hair salon, tons of NPCs, houses, a battle restraunt, the battle tower, champion cup (aka elite 4), and stuff to explore.
Aside from this, no, Leagues have never been anything but the bare basics with little NPCs, let alone houses or side stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:23:20 No.41515143 Report

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>>41514577
You can camp in almost any location.
There are NPC camps on the overworld though.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:24:36 No.41515188 Report

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>Make a Sex God
>Give him a hallway to his gym

I hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:26:33 No.41515245 Report

Quoted By: >>41515332

>>41514983
I'm fully expecting them to have it be a giant power station or something now. Like they hollowed out the interior and put machinery everywhere or something, so there can be straight-line walkways between the entrances and little Timmy doesn't have to risk getting lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:29:23 No.41515332 Report

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>>41515245
The ones that complained were the nips though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2019 03:30:22 No.41515350 Report

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>>41512895
I miss getting lost in pokemon dungeons. It gave me a feel of adventure.

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