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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:32:58 No.41575358 View View Reply Original Report

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Why are raid battles so boring? What can be done to fix them?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:34:33 No.41575382 Report

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>>41575358
I can't believe these retards lifted a shitty ass mechanic from a shitty ass mobile game and shoe-horned it in to be the entire post game of their main game.
I can't even fathom this level of pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:36:05 No.41575412 Report

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does online just not work for these? can never get anyone to join. stuck with the bots and their eevees and clefairys

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:36:48 No.41575426 Report

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>>41575382
They said they thought of Raid battles before Go did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:37:06 No.41575436 Report

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>>41575412
Are you actually connecting to the internet? You have to hit "Y" and then "+" to actually connect to the internet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:38:28 No.41575454 Report

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>>41575358
make them more like actual rpg bosses

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:38:45 No.41575459 Report

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>>41575412
Y-com is fucking trash, that's why no one is joining. The fucking thing takes 10 years to refresh and even then it shows outdated stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:39:22 No.41575471 Report

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>>41575426
These faggots say a lot of pure dog shit, and not once has it ever been justification.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:39:58 No.41575486 Report

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>>41575382
>Saying this when LGPE were the first non-mobile Pokemon games to lift mechanics from Go.
You're a bit late but you're right nonetheless.
>>41575426
>Believing what's is probably another one of GF's lies.
You're an idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:41:52 No.41575505 Report

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>>41575358
For being the first coop experience they are really good, but they need some work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:43:38 No.41575531 Report

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>>41575358
I like them
But the "den" should be a mini dungeon where you can get Pokémon with HA and raid boss is at the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:44:37 No.41575547 Report

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>>41575486
I think they tried to sell LGPE as an entry for Go retards to try to get into the main games right? It makes sense for that game, but definitely not for a main game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:44:57 No.41575551 Report

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>>41575505
The first co-op experience was Let's Go's actual co-op

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:45:31 No.41575561 Report

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>>41575426
Got proof? They can say anything they want after the fact.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:45:40 No.41575564 Report

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>>41575505
>For being the first coop experience
Never played gen 5 i see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:45:39 No.41575565 Report

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Well start by making them more like actual raids. They need more phases and mechanics, unique mechanics for each gigamax raid (stupid fucking name) is a minimum.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:46:40 No.41575587 Report

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>>41575358
>What can be done to fix them?
You can't really fix them without changing the battle system. On the note of raids, though?

https://youtu.be/Y8sjdARePGw?t=708
Take note of the massive size difference between a 1-frame and 4-frame monster, how absolutely tiny your character is, and how each monster gets four distinct attack/skill animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:47:23 No.41575597 Report

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it's a difficult task to fix them
the way they're implemented means that you have to run a lot of them to get candy/TRs/HA mons
making them easier and faster would make them even less fun
making them harder and longer would just make them get frustrating and annoying faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:48:36 No.41575611 Report

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>>41575551
Wrong again stupid.
I may be daft and missed something in gen 4, but gen 5 had co op battle subway that me and my friend used to battle together on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:49:54 No.41575630 Report

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>>41575611
emerald also had coop in the frontier iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:50:45 No.41575640 Report

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>>41575358
Make it take more skill. However I mostly like them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:50:51 No.41575644 Report

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>>41575611
Gen 4 had the underground too. It wasn't exactly co-op but it had some elements that would have been good in a raid, such as a large dungeon to explore before fighting the boss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:50:53 No.41575646 Report

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>>41575358
By having something else to do in the game besides them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:51:17 No.41575654 Report

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>>41575587
DQM2 3DS translation when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:52:04 No.41575667 Report

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>>41575611
>>41575630
>>41575564
Local coop doesnt count

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:52:11 No.41575671 Report

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>>41575611
I think co-op in Emerald and Gen 4 was also possible for the battle facilities.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:52:11 No.41575672 Report

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>>41575630
I never had a friend at the time with emerald, and even less so to use a link cable with.
That was probably a lot of fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:52:22 No.41575676 Report

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>>41575597
the real answer is that pokemon’s turn-based gameplay is not suited to coop battles or battles against overpowered monsters, because of the way turns work in it and what happens when you change pokemon mid battle.

It’s a 1v1 game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:52:43 No.41575679 Report

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>>41575667
>local coop isn't coop
kill yourself

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:53:14 No.41575685 Report

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>>41575667
God i hate you faggots so unfathomably much.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:55:43 No.41575712 Report

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>>41575667
And Let's Go's coop wasn't fucking local as well? Bitch ass nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 06:56:59 No.41575730 Report

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>>41575676
Triple battle match making would be hilarious personally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:01:25 No.41575783 Report

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>>41575679
It doesnt unless you have 20 friends with a nintendo ds

If that is the case good for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:06:03 No.41575842 Report

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>>41575531
>the "den" should be a mini dungeon
That would make no sense, how do you fit such enormous creature inside a dungeon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:07:43 No.41575860 Report

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>>41575358
make it so if the host has disable battle effects, its disabled for everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:21:16 No.41576036 Report

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You can't fix this shit, if you make them too "hard" they will just take to much time and everyone will hate them because farming shit will be a pain in the ass, if you leave them has easy as they are know everyone will get bored because it's just a press A simulator.
Raids are a retarded concept for pokemon and making all the postgame/online revolve around farming them is what actually make this game so retarded.
It would have been better if they just made them single player boss battle to catch some special pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:28:07 No.41576136 Report

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>>41575459
What's up with this? The day the game came out my y-com feed was jumping, but ever since then it's been literally dead. I get maybe one badge and it's always too late.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:33:17 No.41576207 Report

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>>41575358
I've been mixing it up a bit by using a healer mon, a Hattrem with the Healer ability and Helping Hand/Life Dew/Heal Pulse/Psychic. Figure out the ideal mon to boost based on speed and how many shields are left, use Life Dew if everyone is damaged, Heal Pulse if one particular mon is in danger, and Psychic for to break shields when boosting/healing aren't needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:36:18 No.41576246 Report

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>>41575412
For joining random ones, the best thing I've found is to disconnect from the internet and then reconnect. That will give you the option to truly load new stamps and find raids that aren't expired.
For hosting, you may just be out of luck, since most people probably aren't doing something like the above to get fresh raid notifications and so they never even see yours until its too late to join.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:36:49 No.41576250 Report

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>>41575358
Allow Perish Song to work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:45:58 No.41576367 Report

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Nothing they can do. There needs to be a complete game engineoverhaul for anything fun to work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:48:32 No.41576417 Report

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>>41575358
Amazing how digimon's current games are nothing but raid battles and yet they do leaps and bounds over this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:51:43 No.41576467 Report

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>>41575676
This. It's also the reason why gen 3 was downfall of pokemon. Fucking double battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:55:19 No.41576521 Report

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>>41576417
>Digishills are at it once again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:58:44 No.41576563 Report

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change it so that only max moves chip through the shield, eternatus/dogs signature move should take off two shields instead of doing a ton of dmg through shields, they're too easy to cheese online

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 07:59:45 No.41576579 Report

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>>41575358
Delete them and shoot the faggot who thought hardcore RNG is fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 08:00:43 No.41576595 Report

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>>41575358
Better NPCs so you can actually do some of the harder ones offline.
Clefairy and Pikachu are absolute jobbers.
Like why would an NPC bring an electric type to fight a Sandaconda?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 08:01:43 No.41576608 Report

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>>41576521
>plays both series
>is a shill for saying one game is clearly better than others when they do the same kind of battle system

Get the pokedick out your mouth man. I wonder what type of sad faggot you are if you think an comparision is an attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 08:03:07 No.41576623 Report

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>>41575486
Say what you will about the rest of the game, LGPE catching is unironically better and far more immersive than mainline

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 08:03:10 No.41576627 Report

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>>41576467
Doubles are still 1v1 player anon

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