>>41616574Never hated these games, I didn't hate their sequels either. Don't know why anyone would considering they're the only time Game Freak did something different with the series. Only time this new design philosophy worked with Pokemon too. Pokemon Sun and Moon would be the only games to come close to it and that's only because its characters were comparatively better written than X and Y's but it was all bogged down thanks to Game Freaks newfound obsession with dragging the player through endless tutorials, bad level design, and sloppy storytelling.