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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 08:08:30 No.41624813 View View Reply Original Report

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Alright /vp/, here's a thought for discussion: what could make a Pokemon-inspired game, that isn't Pokemon itself, good? Like say you've still got collecting and battling, but anything else is allowed to change. What could make such a game playable?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 08:10:52 No.41624838 Report

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 08:12:57 No.41624862 Report

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You mean like Dragon Quest Monsters or SMT? Having more than one unit out at a time does a lot to just generally increase complexity and the range of options available.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 08:13:25 No.41624865 Report

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>>41624813
This pixel art is not a bad idea for a better game than we have now desu.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 08:14:15 No.41624869 Report

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>>41624838
FPBP

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 08:15:10 No.41624883 Report

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>>41624838
>>41624862
I might try these out.

>>41624865
Yeah, I don't know who made it, but it's cute as fuck.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 08:38:56 No.41625116 Report

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>>41624862
DQM games also generally have more varied skill effects. Examples:
>修羅の獄, Slash skill, 50 MP
>Does normal attack damage to the target's maximum HP. This change stacks, and can't be cleared until the monster dies. Ignores Selflessness, Counter(activist), and all Metal Body traits.
>チェイン, Spell, 36 MP.
>At the end of the turn, the monster links itself and its allies together. On the next turn, after the fastest monster on the user's side acts, their allies will get their turns immediately.
>たたかいのふえ, Breath, 30 MP.
>User plays a song for its next three actions, increasing the Attack of its allies by (Ally's Level x 2 + 50). When the song is over, this increase is lost.
>星降りのサンバ, Dance, 50 MP
>Deals damage four times to random enemies equal to ((User's Agility/10) - (Enemy's Defense/30)). Each individual hit is capped at 200.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:01:51 No.41625340 Report

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would it be more interesting if the battle system was changed up a bit. I know most of the games can be beaten by just spamming A over and over.

I was thinking something between Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and Into the breach.

Worth playing or would it be completely worthless unless its an exact pokemon rip off.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:05:56 No.41625369 Report

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>>41624813
The problem is that pokemon is tightly tied together with modern culture and any game with similar mechanics or designs looks like a ripoff. I'll admit I have trouble enjoying SMT and yokai watch games, and I never tried dragon quest bbecause I hate the art style. Its just difficult to part with the idea of battling pokemon and capturing them in balls.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:13:05 No.41625414 Report

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-adventure in a rural / perhaps fantasy pokemon land
-Not completely isolated like Breath of the Wild, lets have some villages maybe even a port city or something.
-Make it an emotional story. Is it a crime to want a pokemon story to make me cry / touch my heart? For this, i think the game would have to be rated T. Let me see some one loose a loved one or loose all hope. Let me see them come back fucking strong.
- focus on nature and scenery along with exploration. Think Xenoblade Chronicles X world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1gHJbCc_xE
-good voice acting
-you dont need new pokemon. You dont even need ALL the pokemon. A partial Dex is FINE if the game is good enough to warrant it.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:15:52 No.41625436 Report

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Omygod, this.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:33:17 No.41625591 Report

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I have ideas, and have experimented with some builds. The only real things I can't get a grasp on are something that makes the battle system more distinct than Pokemon while following a similar format and how to build a story for the game. I have concepts for how the world itself works, but the only practical reason for fighting would either be a generic RPG story or literally just copying Pokemon,where you have to battle for a sports leagues, and that just seems like a shameless rip-off.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:43:08 No.41625675 Report

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What pokemon does right that basically every other monster battle game fucks up is it's designed around long-term companions and playing with your favorites. All other games in the genre encourage constant swapping and fusing so that you hardly have a chance to get attached to a monster before it's obsolete. Also while there is objectively some pokemon that are more powerful than others, generally speaking unless you're playing competitively the power gap is not so vast that you can't reasonably use ones you like over more powerful ones. I mean there is that one persona autist who leveled pixie (extremely early game monster) all the way to 99 and did the work to boost all her stats to the max and gave her a good skill set she would never normally have but that's going pretty far.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:44:22 No.41625686 Report

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>>41625340

Honestly, Mystery Dungeon would probably be the easiest to rip off without it feeling like a rip off. It's monsters in a fantasy world befriending each other and going on adventures. That's pretty damned universal.

>>41625414

I should note that I am not talking about making a new Pokemon game, but a Pokemon-inspired game. There's a ton of rip offs, but I'm wondering how to capture the essence of what we like about Pokemon without actually being Pokemon itself.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:46:09 No.41625702 Report

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>>41624813
Be a Pokemon game

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:52:54 No.41625751 Report

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>>41625686
I was talking more about changing the fighting to be closer to Mystery Dungeon.

So moves have ranges and limits and you have to aim while also being turn based and types still play into it.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:53:07 No.41625752 Report

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After playing Cyber Sleuth I realised that the raising aspect in Pokemon games is terribly weak. If you don't breed your monster (which on its own is a pretty boring process of tossing dice) it boils down to levelling it up.
In Digimon I keep devolving my monsters and choosing different paths for them, while tweaking their stats and slapping different personality patches on them, depending on what I need to reach the next stage.

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SW-7937-9857-2566 Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:55:11 No.41625760 Report

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1083190/Disc_Creatures/

Disc Creatures was a better game than sword/shield for me and it's a 14 dollar game or some shit.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 10:08:36 No.41625835 Report

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Eh, it's just a turn-based roguelike combat-wise. You might enjoy Eternal Eyes.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 11:21:35 No.41626330 Report

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>>41625686
anon why are all others "rip offs" but yours wouldn't be?

You sound like a massive narcissist, go actually look up some of these upcoming "rip offs".

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 11:28:31 No.41626378 Report

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>>41624813
Safari being integrated with lgpe catching modes. You do stuff to lure,trap, stalk, bait and pursue Pokémon before you as well as mon interaction. Use stuff from the games as well as rl.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 11:51:24 No.41626586 Report

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Pixel art gets treated like 2D animation. The average consumer will just think it looks cheap and outdated even if it looks better.

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