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Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:28:25 No.41675889 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41676123 >>41676177 >>41676251 >>41676319 >>41676531 >>41676806 >>41678123 >>41678316 >>41679148 >>41679448

It's in ubers now.

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/national-dex-ou-metagame-discussion.3656899/page-3#post-8299850

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:31:10 No.41675925 Report

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Finally

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:43:56 No.41676123 Report

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>>41675889
Should of happened years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:47:17 No.41676177 Report

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>>41675889
>national-dex-ou
Absolutely cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:48:44 No.41676192 Report

Quoted By: >>41676256

HE MADE IT
But will Zamazenta now drop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:52:19 No.41676251 Report

Quoted By: >>41679115 >>41682328 >>41682490 >>41682770

>>41675889
Hardly surprising, it's Smogon, it's full of incels who are shit at the game so they'd rather ban everything instead of learning how to play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:52:57 No.41676256 Report

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>>41676192
Nope.
Zamazenta might be the worst out of the three new legends, but it's still absolutely retarded for OU.

It has better bulk than Toxapex in Shield form, and out of shield form, it outspeeds almost all of the meta game, hits hard, and has very good bulk for a sweeper

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:54:13 No.41676275 Report

Quoted By: >>41678437

They gave it Dragon Dance, the one thing that would break it. What did people expect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 15:57:30 No.41676319 Report

Quoted By: >>41678448

>>41675889
Based Gorilla-Arm Dragon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 16:10:27 No.41676491 Report

Quoted By: >>41676844 >>41678448

Based Gorilla-arm Dragon claiming his rightful place in Ubers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 16:14:02 No.41676531 Report

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>>41675889
>one shots you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 16:30:40 No.41676806 Report

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>>41675889
Finally it can reach his brother

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 16:32:49 No.41676844 Report

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>>41676491
His brothers in GADness must be proud of him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 17:47:38 No.41678123 Report

Quoted By: >>41678207 >>41678211 >>41678286 >>41679338

>>41675889
Kyurem-W is banned since forever.
So why didn't his counterpart was banned before to begin with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 17:52:06 No.41678207 Report

Quoted By: >>41678242 >>41682286

>>41678123
It started out banned when it originally came out like every cover legendary.
Someone pointed out it sucked because it had no moves.
They ran a suspect test and eventually decided to ban it, which carried over to future generations until now since they finally fixed its movepool.

If you dig in the Smogon forums you can probably find the original suspect thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 17:52:13 No.41678211 Report

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>>41678123
Kyurem-W had moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 17:53:48 No.41678242 Report

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>>41678207
*decided to unban, sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 17:55:30 No.41678286 Report

Quoted By: >>41678462

>>41678123
>shit typing + no moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 17:57:25 No.41678316 Report

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>>41675889
>favorite legend is in ubers now
feels good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:03:53 No.41678437 Report

Quoted By: >>41678518

>>41676275
It's less that dragon dance breaks it and more that Dynamax makes it impossible to revenge kill, making it infinitely more broken that it was before. He's probably going to be shit in Ubers, though, but he had a good run in OU with the gang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:04:49 No.41678448 Report

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>>41676319
>>41676491
>>41676844
Shit meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:05:34 No.41678462 Report

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>>41678286
Defensive typing has never been an issue because of its obscene bulk. It's also not half bad because its resistances and neutralities come in handy against fire, water and electric types, al of which are VERY common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:09:37 No.41678518 Report

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>>41678437
>He's probably going to be shit in Ubers
It's better than Zekrom for sure.
Zekrom has an unfortunate dual STAB combo with both of its types being common immunities, it's slower (90 vs 95 spe) and defensively it has problematic weaknesses in ground and ice, which Kyu-B lacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:32:37 No.41679001 Report

Quoted By: >>41679178 >>41679330 >>41679342

Kyurem is in SwSh? I thought all previous legendaries got snapped?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:38:11 No.41679115 Report

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>>41676251
post elo with timestamp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:39:34 No.41679148 Report

Quoted By: >>41679181 >>41679192

>>41675889
Bigger fish in a smaller pond
Most of the good mons were culled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:40:59 No.41679178 Report

Quoted By: >>41679267 >>41679377 >>41679642

>>41679001
Fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:41:09 No.41679181 Report

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>>41679148
>national dex ou
"no"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:41:41 No.41679192 Report

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>>41679148
Even without the cull Kyu-B with DD plus physical ice STAB would be too much.
Case in point: in Smogon's custom metagames that buff Kyu-B's movepool it always ends up being banned, despite ALL pokemon being buffed, precisely because access to moves like Dragon Dance and Icicle Spear push it over the edge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:45:42 No.41679267 Report

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>>41679178
Kyurem IS in swsh though, it's just not released yet, but it's in the code. It even has dex entries written for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:48:26 No.41679330 Report

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>>41679001
Dataminers have found out its data alongside others. It gonna show up itself at the future probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:48:51 No.41679338 Report

Quoted By: >>41679389

>>41678123
Kyurem Black was forced to run mixed sets (which basically greatly reduced its power) due to its non existent physical movepool.

Now that it actually has a "reliable" physical ice move, on top of a boosting move and Dynamax being absolutely broken in a Singles format, it was bound to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:49:07 No.41679342 Report

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>>41679001
Yeah, and it had Ddance and Icicle Spear added to its moveset

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:50:59 No.41679377 Report

Quoted By: >>41679516

>>41679178
What part of a community meta screams fanfic anyway? I don't think Joey's Smogon League exists on fanfics.net, but I suppose you're free to check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:51:33 No.41679389 Report

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>>41679338
Also: with Hidden Power being gone, anything with BoltBeam coverage and STAB on at least half of it is worth its weight in gold. With Dynamax Kyu-B basically gets STAB on BOTH thanks to Electric Terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:55:06 No.41679448 Report

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>>41675889
Now if only those stupid fags could give my bro EQ and ice punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 18:58:54 No.41679516 Report

Quoted By: >>41682411

>>41679377
>Boiling this fucking easily

Calm down, it's not good for your health. Just think of something nice, even if it's imaginary. Think of a fanfic meta like "Gen 8 NatDex OU"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 19:05:07 No.41679642 Report

Quoted By: >>41679818 >>41682324

>>41679178
kinda sad that fan made formats are so much better than anything gamefreak makes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 19:12:53 No.41679818 Report

Quoted By: >>41681036 >>41681102

>>41679642
2v2 doubles is the best meta. Prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 20:10:35 No.41681036 Report

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>>41679818
doubles OU is better in every way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 20:12:58 No.41681102 Report

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>>41679818
Monotype randoms inverse rotation battle wants a word with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 20:13:45 No.41681115 Report

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My boy made it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 21:07:29 No.41682286 Report

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>>41678207
>Someone pointed out it sucked because it had no moves.
The only reason Smogon allowed it in below Uber is because they saw and copied Pokémon Online, who had already done it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 21:08:13 No.41682305 Report

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HE DID IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 21:09:36 No.41682324 Report

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>>41679642
doubles is the best format it is just that Gamefreak is so fucking retarded with rulings for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 21:09:55 No.41682328 Report

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>>41676251
terrible bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 21:13:34 No.41682411 Report

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>>41679516
cullfags are fucking stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 21:14:45 No.41682443 Report

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>>41678448
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 21:16:34 No.41682490 Report

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>>41676251
>so they'd rather ban everything instead of learning how to play.
Are you implying there is anything to learn about the gameplay of this garbage franchise? Not that I disagree Smogon is worse, though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Dec 2019 21:29:28 No.41682770 Report

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>>41676251
Why do people make these retarded arguements?
It's a tier system, they moved it to another tier.

If you wanna play the mon, play it in the tier or just play AG if you want to "learn how to play the game"

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