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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:22:14 No.41687644 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>41687695 >>41687710 >>41688374 >>41688515 >>41688597 >>41690232 >>41694130 >>41694260 >>41696738

>generation with at least 3 new Pokemon dedicated to being musicians
>still no sound type

We're never getting it bros

>inb4 "not an element" as if that's a valid point in a game where fairy and dragon exist

>inb4 "not enough pokemon fit it"
>Exploud family
>Jigglypuff family
>Audino
>Chatot family
>Noivern family
>Chimecho family
>Meloetta
>Kricketune family
>Rillaboom
>Obstagoon
>Toxictricity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:24:07 No.41687688 Report

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"Oh my gosh, I'm yelling, I'm producing sound, I must be a sound type!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:24:34 No.41687695 Report

Quoted By: >>41689926 >>41690327

>>41687644
you already have it, its called the normal type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:25:21 No.41687710 Report

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>>41687644
>NOOOO WHY WON'T THEY PUT IN MY HORRIBLE TYPE IDEA

lmao fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:25:22 No.41687711 Report

Quoted By: >>41688533 >>41689926 >>41694166

Everyone produces sound, it's why most sound moves are normal because producing sound is a normal thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:27:11 No.41687749 Report

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i am sorry, but sound type sounds fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:32:37 No.41687858 Report

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>We're never getting it bros
and that's a good thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:44:40 No.41688077 Report

Quoted By: >>41688433 >>41688626 >>41688640 >>41689926

how would sound type be functionally any different from normal without being strictly worse?
>not very effective against rock, steel, ground, maybe water
>super effective against... flying maybe?
>defensively weak against what exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:55:35 No.41688291 Report

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Would have had a more cohesive identity than the mistake that is the fairy type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:57:47 No.41688338 Report

Quoted By: >>41689926 >>41690273

The
>Just normal type
argument is pretty stupid when a large portion of Fairy mons were mono or part normal too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 01:59:47 No.41688374 Report

Quoted By: >>41694193

>>41687644
At this point, sound is the only way to do special-based Normal moves that aren't energy beams.
On that note, if sound was its own type, how would you do a physical sound move?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:02:50 No.41688433 Report

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>>41688077
Super effective against Ice (avalanches), Poison (pic related), and Rock (ultrasonic drilling).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:06:12 No.41688486 Report

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>>41688433
>type effectiveness determined off of some super obscure research nobody has ever heard of outside of a very specific field
>no logical reason for the masses to remember it other than a random piece of trivia that would end up being most known because of pokemon and not the other way around
ok buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:07:22 No.41688515 Report

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>>41687644
Soundfags will remain seething until the heat death of the universe. You poor delusional bastards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:08:05 No.41688533 Report

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>>41687711
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:09:23 No.41688563 Report

Quoted By: >>41688650 >>41688663 >>41696394

>>41688486
Why is Psychic super effective against Poison? Why does Fairy resist Bug? Sometimes thing don't have to make sense, so even an obscure reason would be fine with me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:11:14 No.41688597 Report

Quoted By: >>41688673 >>41691713

>>41687644
Because nobody can make a physical Sound move that makes sense.
>"see, its literally just a normal attack, but I'm making sound while doing it, so it's a sound move"
Like just fuck off dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:13:07 No.41688626 Report

Quoted By: >>41688736

>>41688077
>SE on Rock and Ice (also fuck ice, it deserves every single weakness, don't @ me) because if you sing at the right pitch you can break glass
>NE on Water and Bug
>doesn't effect Psychic because Psychics are 2smart4distractions

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:13:40 No.41688640 Report

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>>41688077
It would be supereffective against steel and water because of vibrations, ghost because ghosts can hear shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:14:21 No.41688650 Report

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>>41688563
Psychics can control the poison flowing through your blood, that’s why steel types are immune. Fairies fly above most of the bugs (obviously excluding bug/flying types)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:14:51 No.41688663 Report

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>>41688563
>Why is Psychic super effective against Poison?
Because if you're smart, you would know how to deal with poison. Next question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:15:53 No.41688673 Report

Quoted By: >>41688765

>>41688597
Literally Drum Beating except it's not considered sound-based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:18:27 No.41688736 Report

Quoted By: >>41688749

>>41688433
SE on ice and rock is reaching. Wind can cause avalanches and shifting earth can cause avalanches but neither are SE on ice. Air (flying) can grind down rocks too.
I'll give you poison but it honestly doesn't need another weakness
>>41688626
>lets give 2 typing with tons of weaknesses even more weaknesses lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:19:10 No.41688749 Report

Quoted By: >>41688801

>>41688736
SEETHE ICE NIGGER

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:19:34 No.41688765 Report

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>>41688673
even though he uses his drum to summon the roots it doesn't make sense for it to be sound based damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:20:57 No.41688801 Report

Quoted By: >>41688844

>>41688749
I don't really like ice types at all but even so making them even worse defensively makes zero sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 02:23:10 No.41688844 Report

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>>41688801
They could always alter it
Like when Fairy was introduced Steel lost resistance to dark and ghost to compensate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:20:18 No.41689926 Report

Quoted By: >>41689975 >>41690161 >>41691302

>>41687695
>>41687711
>>41688077
>>41688338

Normal was a mistake in the first place

What the fuck does "normal" even mean

It should have been called "Beast" type to fit in with the Bug/Dragon line of types

Also "Flying" should have been "Air"

And while I'm at it, having "Ground" and "Rock" be separate is retarded. All of the animations for Rock abilities have them coming out of the ground anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:22:53 No.41689975 Report

Quoted By: >>41690023 >>41691520 >>41696181

>>41689926
my interpretation of normal is that they don't really have any special powers and are more like animals. idk doesnt make much sense when you consider dual type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:26:09 No.41690023 Report

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>>41689975
It also doesn't make much sense when you consider half of Gen 1's normal types are nothing like regular animals

Clefairy is a fairy from the moon
Jigglypuff is a balloon that sings
Chansey is a giant egg that looks after smaller eggs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:26:20 No.41690025 Report

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Don't forget the Pyroar line and Palpitoad line

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:28:21 No.41690054 Report

Quoted By: >>41690099 >>41690251

Sound type isn't meant to be a traditional type and that's what makes it mechanically interesting. It's a psuedo-type which allows it to bend the rules of what a type can do and be applied in unique ways. It's a fucking great concept.

Asking it to be turned into a proper type is like asking for "Contact type". It's a fucking property and that's what makes it interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:30:48 No.41690099 Report

Quoted By: >>41690153

>>41690054
Dragon should be a pseudo type within Fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:34:18 No.41690153 Report

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>>41690099
That would make more sense the other way around, but no not really. Both have very clear thematic and mechanical roles in the type system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:34:26 No.41690161 Report

Quoted By: >>41696181

>>41689926
Normal is exactly what it says. It goes to plain Pokemon who don't fall into the other categories. The double types are ones that have a mild connection to that type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:40:31 No.41690232 Report

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>>41687644
There are multiple reasons why it shouldn't exist as it's own type.
Sounds are naturally made through different material and sources.
I also think it's unnecessary to change existing sound based moves into it's own typing. It would undoubtedly nerf them to an extent.

So no, there should never be a Sound typing, as it's totally not needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:41:17 No.41690247 Report

Quoted By: >>41690379

The biggest problem with a hypothetical sound type would be its advantages and disadvantages. What would it be strong against and vulnerable to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:41:33 No.41690251 Report

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>>41690054
This too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:42:29 No.41690273 Report

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>>41688338
yeah bros why don't they make a punch type saying fighting types already cover it is dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:46:06 No.41690327 Report

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>>41687695

this, physical normal moves are just impacts

special normal moves? just impacts in the form of intense vibrations, aka sound, not to mention most of the sound-based pokemon we have already happen to be normal types so they get stab from those moves (meoletta, chatot, exploud, audirno, jigglypuff, etc)

normal isn't even a bad type to use whatsoever, its one of my favorite types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 03:50:01 No.41690379 Report

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>>41690247
Whatever is convenient for balancing, same as Fairy type. Sound is so generic and abstract you can easily ascribe any weakness or super effectiveness to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 04:49:08 No.41691302 Report

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>>41689926
rock and ground need to be separated just like ice and water need to be separated

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 05:01:22 No.41691520 Report

Quoted By: >>41696665

>>41689975
>my interpretation of normal is that they don't really have any special powers and are more like animals
Then why is the pokemon with all the powers normal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 05:02:19 No.41691533 Report

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>3 new Pokemon dedicated to being musicians that all look shit
Thank fuck we're never getting that shitty type idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 05:07:34 No.41691634 Report

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There should be Contact type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 05:11:29 No.41691713 Report

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>>41688597
vibration punch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 07:44:36 No.41694130 Report

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>>41687644
Sound IS already a semi-element.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 07:46:30 No.41694166 Report

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>>41687711
everyone can fight
why is mega kick a normal type move
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 07:47:44 No.41694193 Report

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>>41688374
a vibrating punch/kick
localized earthquakes on the opponent's body maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 07:47:49 No.41694196 Report

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Imagine if they added it, but still cut exploud

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 07:52:00 No.41694260 Report

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>>41687644
>being quiet is sound type
>being loud is sound type
>every volume is sound type
>all pokemon are sound type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 11:33:36 No.41696181 Report

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>>41689975
>>41690161
Still, Normal types have access to most moves from every type.

Normal my ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 11:59:34 No.41696394 Report

Quoted By: >>41696681

>>41688563
LOL ,Exactly. Poison shouldn't be a Type either!
Psychic, Ground, Fighting, Dark bring diversity to the game, but Poison and Sound are merely tools to attack and rarely bare any straightforward justification on how such a specialist mon should handle attacks by other mons.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 12:28:47 No.41696665 Report

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>>41691520

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 12:30:05 No.41696681 Report

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>>41696394
I think we only need two types - normal and not normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 12:35:18 No.41696738 Report

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>>41687644
You already know that Game Freaks biggest crime was removing ??? type in gen 5

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