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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 21:58:55 No.41705118 View View Reply Original Report

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Did Gamefreak replaced them for good?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:00:43 No.41705137 Report

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>>41705118
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:00:53 No.41705138 Report

Quoted By: >>41706424

ledian is the only one among them who deserves to be replaced

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:01:03 No.41705140 Report

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Yes.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:03:07 No.41705179 Report

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>>41705118
Mareep shits all over memesheep
Orbeetle is admittedly better than ledian even if ledian is cuter
Donphan ties with copperaja

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:04:23 No.41705197 Report

Quoted By: >>41705214

>>41705118
Donphan is immensely superior

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:05:24 No.41705214 Report

Quoted By: >>41705439 >>41705472 >>41706038 >>41706126 >>41706438

>>41705179
>>41705197
>Manlet elephant better than anything
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:15:15 No.41705392 Report

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>>41705179
>Shitpharos
>shitting all over anything
Not even viable enough to be worth using in ZU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:17:33 No.41705439 Report

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>>41705214
Nigger
>>41705392
Competitive ormg. STFU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:18:46 No.41705458 Report

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None of the Pokemon have been replaced and are still copyrighted under the Pokemon name, you faggots need to calm down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:19:01 No.41705461 Report

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>>41705439
>ormg
Did you have a stroke?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:19:33 No.41705472 Report

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>>41705214
Enjoy your Mario enemy.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:21:11 No.41705501 Report

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>>41705472
What's wrong with mario enemies? They are full of personality

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:22:04 No.41705519 Report

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>>41705472
Enjoy your Kirby enemy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:22:10 No.41705520 Report

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>>41705501
Nothing, as long as they saty in Mario games.
But Turner really likes Nintendo 64 for some reason.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:24:02 No.41705549 Report

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>>41705519
>Kirby enemy
hmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:34:41 No.41705747 Report

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>>41705118
>Mareep
No.
>Ledian
Yes. There is literally no point in its existence any more.
>Donphan
No.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:34:56 No.41705756 Report

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>>41705501
Nothing

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:50:16 No.41706015 Report

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>>41705118
Ledian deserves to fuck off, the rest are well liked so they will return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:51:52 No.41706038 Report

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>>41705179
>>41705214
Copperajah is a putrid design and no amount of "but the THEME" will change that. Gets mogged by a fucking monlet like Donphan.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:56:04 No.41706126 Report

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>>41705214
Donphan can easily obliterate this ugly fucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 22:58:30 No.41706167 Report

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Donphan and Ampharos are better. Wooloo could have had a great Evo but it's kind of meh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:01:18 No.41706213 Report

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>>41705118
Left: Effective designs.
Right: Soulless, forgettable abominations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:02:12 No.41706230 Report

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>>41705118
Electric sheep will always be best sheep.
Orbeetle does admittedly shit all over Ledian and invalidate its existence, both in design and combat.
Donphan may be a monlet but its design is much more appealing than Copperashit.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:07:46 No.41706306 Report

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>>41705179
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:10:26 No.41706345 Report

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>>41705747
>There is literally no point in its existence anymore.

Are you implying his existence ever had a point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:12:26 No.41706365 Report

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>>41705118
>What are breeds

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:16:51 No.41706424 Report

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>>41705138
this. It's literally just an anthro lady bug. There isn't anything cool about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:16:55 No.41706425 Report

Quoted By: >>41706509

>>41705118
We've had Pokemon based on the same animals since Gen 1, with two different ducks and two different snakes, and hell even the ambiguous kaiju monsters like Nidoking and Rhydon being basically colour swaps of each other. I don't know why people are acting like this is suddenly a huge issue.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:17:51 No.41706438 Report

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>>41705214
Better to be a manlet than to be hideous
>t.cute manlet

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:18:10 No.41706443 Report

Quoted By: >>41706486

I want to see a fight between both teams.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:20:12 No.41706465 Report

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>>41705472
That's not even the right Mario enemy, you philistine.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:20:28 No.41706469 Report

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>>41705519
but kirby is based

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:21:19 No.41706486 Report

Quoted By: >>41707138

>>41706443
Johtomons are going to lose, Ledian is THE Shitmon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:22:40 No.41706509 Report

Quoted By: >>41706802

>>41706425
Yeah, but there’s surprisingly a lot this gen compared to other recent gens. Plus there’s the culling

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:40:04 No.41706802 Report

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>>41706509
But even with the culling the Galar dex still has 2 different spiders, 2 different foxes, all 3 lines of octopus/squid pokemon, etc. There's no reason the next games can't have both Mareep and Wooloo just like how Galar has both Yamper and Growlithe.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:51:33 No.41706998 Report

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>>41705118
SOUL VS SOULLESS

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Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:58:34 No.41707138 Report

Quoted By: >>41707372

>>41706486
Mareep wins against Woloo, but loses to be ladybug, new ladybug also defeats Ledian, but both it and Copperphant are defeated by Donphan

That's what would happen. Stone Edge and stab Earthquake finish both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Dec 2019 23:59:21 No.41707150 Report

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>>41706126
So Africa gain triumphant against India?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:00:02 No.41707166 Report

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>>41705439
Seething Johtofag

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:00:15 No.41707170 Report

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Yup just like how Yamper replaced Electrike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:03:29 No.41707246 Report

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>>41705118
No. They'll cycle dex and ingame presence forever so hardcore players feel forced to pay for home forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:08:57 No.41707372 Report

Quoted By: >>41707410 >>41707627

>>41707138
Absurdly wrong. Orbeetle is decently tanky and Donphan isn't that strong, it can't be OHKO'd by Donphan, and it can't even be 2HKO'd if it set up Reflect (which it has a free opportunity to do against Ledian), meanwhile Orbeetle either 2HKOs or 3HKOs in return with Giga Drain. Even if Donphan gets lucky and manages to KO Orbeetle with a crit, Copperajah will still come in, survive a hit, and KO the weakened Donphan.

Gen 2 team cannot win.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:10:49 No.41707410 Report

Quoted By: >>41707594

>>41707372
Strongly disagree

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:20:25 No.41707594 Report

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>>41707410
252+ Atk Donphan Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Orbeetle: 204-240 (78.1 - 91.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Orbeetle: 210-248 (80.4 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Donphan Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Orbeetle through Reflect: 102-120 (39 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ Atk Donphan Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Orbeetle through Reflect: 105-124 (40.2 - 47.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Versus

252+ SpA Orbeetle Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 196-232 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:22:40 No.41707627 Report

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>>41707372
>Ledian used Encore
>Forced to keep using reflect
>Double team like crazy
>Batom pass Donphan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:24:15 No.41707658 Report

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>>41707627
Mareep can also thunder wave him if he is going to waste a turn using reflect

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:24:21 No.41707660 Report

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>>41707627
Or you just swap into Copperajah and KO Ledian or the Donphan.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:26:52 No.41707717 Report

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>>41707660
Ledian is still faster and gets to batom pass a Double team Donphan.l that can easily deal with Copper

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:30:30 No.41707804 Report

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>>41707166
go to bed orangefug

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:32:54 No.41707861 Report

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>>41707717
Ledian can also use substitute in case of a switch, to get a free double team (but sword dance is another option).

Ledian is clearly the weak link of the group, but he MIGHT be useful to boost Donphan. What we are forgetting is Mareep x Woloo, a lot can depend of these two as Mareep can set up Light Screen AND reflect. I'm not familiar with Woloo, what it can do?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:33:02 No.41707865 Report

Quoted By: >>41707969

>>41707717
Ledian is faster than Orbeetle so it can't Encore on the turn it uses Reflect, meaning the gen 8 player can just swap into Copperajah after putting up Reflect and take the Encore itself, then OHKO Ledian and/or 2HKO Donphan with Heavy Slam. Donphan can't OHKO Copperajah through Reflect.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:36:49 No.41707969 Report

Quoted By: >>41708002

>>41707865
>Ledian is faster than Orbeetle
It isn't.
90 against 85.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:37:57 No.41707994 Report

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Damn. When you put them side by side like that, they look ridiculously similar.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:38:15 No.41708002 Report

Quoted By: >>41708047 >>41708051

>>41707969
>TFW Ledian shitness is key to victory

Also orbeetle will be first facing Mareep, not Ledian anyway.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:40:08 No.41708047 Report

Quoted By: >>41708115

>>41708002
>not leading Copperajah to guarantee a KO against either Mareep or Ledian or a safe sack with Wooloo against Donphan into Orbeetle.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:40:18 No.41708051 Report

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>>41708002
Can't Ledian also take a direct hit from Orbeetle? He has 110 Sp.Def

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:41:21 No.41708079 Report

Quoted By: >>41708131

>>41707627
>dynamaxes to break out of encore

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:42:33 No.41708115 Report

Quoted By: >>41708369

>>41708047
Well I was picturing the fight starting sheep vs sheep so the Pokemon can start fighting their counterparts instead of anything goes.

In that case Ledian still has options with non damage moves to last some turns and batom pass, including Reflect and Light screen.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:43:39 No.41708131 Report

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>>41708079
If you can dynamax, I want to be able to use Z moves.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Dec 2019 00:53:30 No.41708369 Report

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>>41708115
I find it interesting that the best wild card the other team has is Orbeetle, while the worst of the opposing team is Ledian, but Ledian might also be the key to victory despite that due to a bunch of non damage dealing moves.

It's somewhat poetic.

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