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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:38:05 No.41758335 View View Reply Original Report

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>gets invited to multi-dollar franchise from the success of making a ripoff indie game
>puts 0 effort into his work
What the fuck is his problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:39:23 No.41758353 Report

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>>41758335
Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:39:45 No.41758361 Report

Quoted By: >>41758413 >>41760760 >>41760837 >>41763202

just like GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:40:32 No.41758368 Report

Quoted By: >>41758437 >>41758459

>>41758353
captain here, that's Toby Fox

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:40:51 No.41758371 Report

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>>41758335
He knows how much effort was being put into the actual games, so he wanted to fit in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:44:30 No.41758413 Report

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>>41758361
spbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:47:38 No.41758437 Report

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>>41758368
I feel like that name should mean something, but it doesn't. I don't even care enough to google the faggot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:50:05 No.41758459 Report

Quoted By: >>41758495 >>41758498

>>41758368
>tfw learned he created that autistic battle tower song

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:53:39 No.41758490 Report

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>>41758335
Toby success will always make people seething, just make a video game YOU would play and thats how you make money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:53:50 No.41758495 Report

Quoted By: >>41758615 >>41760381 >>41760423 >>41761150

>>41758459
It wasn't even created for the Battle Tower. Toby just used a song he made for a Homestuck opera about mpreg that got him banned from the Homestuck forums. That's how lazy he is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:54:08 No.41758498 Report

Quoted By: >>41758627

>>41758459
>tfw i learned he's the one who made that autistic game, undertale

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:55:24 No.41758507 Report

Quoted By: >>41758556

>>41758437
You're either being a contrarian who's pretending they don't know who that is or you've somehow lived in an isolated bomb shelter without internet access for the past several years.

Don't even like his games but the dude's fanbase is so fucking loud you can't not know who he is by this point after Undertale, Deltarune, and fucking Sans, and his collaborations with both Smash Bros. and Pokemon which had media coverage and the IPs themselves advertised it on their own platforms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:56:22 No.41758518 Report

Quoted By: >>41758556

>>41758437
He's the creator of Undertale and got invited to make the Battle Tower music in S/S while also being the lead music person on Little Town Hero.
People like to seethe over him for his success and how autistic undertale fans can get, but overall the guy is a huge self-made success with pretty good music. The overall soundtrack for Town is the best thing about it, and I thought the Battle Tower theme was pretty hype even when hearing it for the 10th time or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 12:56:45 No.41758524 Report

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>>41758335
Still unironically better than 99% of sword & shield's soundtrack

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 13:00:17 No.41758556 Report

Quoted By: >>41759241

>>41758507
I know what those games are, but I don't care for them. I actually don't know who he is though. His games don't interest me and the fanbases are foaming at the mouth retarded. I'm sure I've heard his name, but it's a generic and forgettable one.
>>41758518
Thanks for the info, anon. Good for him for making his own way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 13:08:24 No.41758615 Report

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>>41758495
This, and homo teen mpreg at that. Why would Nintendo allow this degeneracy?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 13:10:27 No.41758627 Report

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>>41758498
>tfw learned that homestuck spread past shitty webcomics and ruining anime cons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 13:51:23 No.41759049 Report

Quoted By: >>41759110

>>41758335
>ripoff
Literally how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 13:56:48 No.41759110 Report

Quoted By: >>41760453 >>41760541

>>41759049
Toby Fox wanted to make his own Mother game, which ended up being Undertale. Not even joking, he literally went "What if I made a Mother game?" and then he did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 14:07:41 No.41759241 Report

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>>41758556
damn an actual polite person on 4chan what dimension am i in now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 14:33:13 No.41759542 Report

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>>41758335
When in Rome.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 14:35:53 No.41759579 Report

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>>41758437

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:32:09 No.41760381 Report

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>>41758495
where can i find the original

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:33:54 No.41760397 Report

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>>41760381
look up “the baby is you”

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:34:33 No.41760405 Report

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>>41758335
>multi-dollar franchise
what good $1 franchises do you recommend bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:35:33 No.41760423 Report

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>>41758495
I mean homestuck faggotry notwithstanding, reusing motifs in music is pretty normal. someone pointed out in a thread yesterday that ecruteak's music is from pokemon pinball first. you can argue that this is lazy but if the melody fits it fits

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:36:38 No.41760436 Report

Quoted By: >>41760545 >>41760756

>>41758335
>What the fuck is his problem?
He's a worthless hack who made overhyped pretentious bullshit that the masses gobbled up like the sheep they are. All his music sounds exactly the same. I was happy i could turn it off after a while in the battle tower. Yuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:37:37 No.41760453 Report

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>>41759110
Yeah. A Mother 4-ish game which Itoi likes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:38:23 No.41760463 Report

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>>41758335
>putting any effort
>in a modern pokemon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:43:32 No.41760541 Report

Quoted By: >>41760813

>>41759110
>getting inspired means you're ripping something off

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:43:41 No.41760545 Report

Quoted By: >>41760738 >>41760813

>>41760436
cry some more

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:51:08 No.41760662 Report

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>>41760397
Oh thanks! I like the original part but not in pokemons style lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:54:08 No.41760701 Report

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>>41758335
Every game that Toby composes which isn't his own turns out to be shit. Game Freak got cursed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:56:34 No.41760738 Report

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>>41760545
Mad because i'm right, Undertalefag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:57:54 No.41760756 Report

Quoted By: >>41760802 >>41760871

>>41760436
>overhyped pretentious bullshit
I mean, I get not liking the game, but just cause other people liked it doesn't mean it's overhyped.
Personally, I think it's one of the tightest examples of raw Game Design ever made. It's certainly not hard, but the core point of game design is to predict, guide and manipulate the feelings and thoughts of players through design principles. In that regard, Undertale is like a fucking textbook on how to do this. I've seen many people play the games and despite differences across the player types and feelings towards the game, there was a shocking consistency in how people approached things and reacted to the game itself. His music, gameplay choices and graphic use were all spot on to make the feelings he was going for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:58:07 No.41760760 Report

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>>41758361
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 15:58:13 No.41760763 Report

Quoted By: >>41760894

>>41760701
Could be worse

one girl makes cringe-tier gijinkas from many franchises,and these franchises got cursed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:00:29 No.41760796 Report

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>>41758335
He doesn't give a shit about Game Freak and so puts in as little effort as possible.
If he was working for a company he actually liked he'd probably put more effort into his work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:01:04 No.41760802 Report

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>>41760756
highly accurate. Toby's underlying instinct for pacing is fantastic and undertale is evidence in my mind of how smooth a game experience can be if it's not developed bureaucratically

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:02:10 No.41760813 Report

Quoted By: >>41760880 >>41761114 >>41761276

>>41760541
The goats are too similar to the Mimigas in Cave Story which he also took shit from. The name Undertale itself is derivative of CS. Game itself is extremely bland and unchallenging. Gameplay is neutered Touhou

>>41760545
I’m inclined to agree with Anon about Toby, he literally wrote Homestuck shit and this in a friend’s basement, shoved it in game maker and put lolsorandum tumblr type humor (temmie, Alphys) which only eight year olds could find funny, and bam. Instant celeb.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:03:45 No.41760837 Report

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>>41758361
das it mane

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:06:30 No.41760871 Report

Quoted By: >>41760900

>>41760756
“Other people liked it” is the understatement of the century. Have you seen how rabid his fans are? Kids make UTAUs their life

The music is inconsistent and deliberately made to pull heartstrings to make up for bare bones piss easy gameplay

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:07:03 No.41760880 Report

Quoted By: >>41761243

>>41760813
alphys isn't lolsorandumb on any level that's an absurd smoothbrain take
the temmies are but alphys is just straight up a parody of autistic weebs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:07:57 No.41760894 Report

Quoted By: >>41761111

>>41760763
Cringe-tier? Like Tumblrshit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:08:16 No.41760900 Report

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>>41760871
>the music is inconsistent
>a soundtrack with more repeated motifs than fucking star wars is inconsistent
dude if you wanna criticize music you should at least know what the fuck you're talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:08:31 No.41760904 Report

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>>41758335
dont know

dont care

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:13:36 No.41760978 Report

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>>41758335
much like game freak themselves, he knows people will buy it anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:23:29 No.41761111 Report

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>>41760894
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:23:37 No.41761114 Report

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>>41760813
>some elements of the game are similar to other games, so it's a rip-off
Boy, you must absolutely hate 99% of games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:26:31 No.41761150 Report

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>>41758495
>he fucking gave Homestuck one last middle finger by putting a sample of the song that got him banned from Homestuck forums into fucking Pokemon
Motherfucking based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:33:06 No.41761236 Report

Quoted By: >>41761322 >>41761574

>>41760900
>a soundtrack with more repeated motifs than fucking star wars is inconsistent
Fucking this, almost every sonc is the same in the game with changes in tone(not a music person, but I can tell it's the same song just pitch shifted or something), it doesn't get much more consistant than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:33:59 No.41761243 Report

Quoted By: >>41761322

>>41760880
Fair, shame she can’t even be killed, what a fucking rip

>>41760900
Nah more like it doesn’t know what it’s trying to be. Goes from the 8bit melody to 16 bit style, then back to 8bit game boy bullshit. Chiptune generally a shit. Wasn’t talking about the use of leitmotifs

>>41761114
I didn’t say ripoff. All in all Undertale felt like an amalgamation of its inspirations mashed together in game maker with no rhyme or reason. It’s off putting to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:34:35 No.41761250 Report

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>>41758335
It's his world, and we are all just living in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:36:28 No.41761276 Report

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>>41760813
>gameplay is neutered Touhou
It's more like a weird hybrid of Touhou and Megaten.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:40:05 No.41761322 Report

Quoted By: >>41761498

>>41761236
musical redpill: the density of repeated motifs seems lazy, but it's actually probably the reason people love undertale's ost so much. repetition (with enough variation to not literally sound like an 80s rock song playing the same chorus a half dozen times) induces familiarity and gets people comfortable with the piece. this is how you make people identity with your composition

>>41761243
the midi soundfonts are rather similar imo even if some are synthesized instruments and some are just clear chiptune. also you're on a Pokemon board and you don't like chiptune? wild

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:51:49 No.41761498 Report

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>>41761322
I think I’ve gotten tired of it from nostalgia bait indie projects abusing the fuck out of pixel and chiptune. But anyway, it’s not that much a strong opinion. I do think Toby is at least a decent composer, and have defended him from accusations that his use of leitmotifs is inherently lazy.

But beyond music, I just don’t care for Undertale as a game. It’s a cute school project at best and very much highly overrated. Back to OP’s point, he is given too much attention

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 16:57:54 No.41761574 Report

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>>41761236
The repeating motifs are the fucking point. It's like you missed all the symbolism.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 18:45:11 No.41763202 Report

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>>41758361
True

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