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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 19:52:37 No.41764342 View View Reply Original Report

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Rate Sword and Shield based on these 8 factors. Rate each factor out of 10 and try to be objective as possible.
>Story
>Post game (quality and quantity of things to do after finishing the main story)
>Pokemon design
>Gameplay (level scaling/pokemon veriety/dynamax/etc...)
>Performance (bugs/slowdown/crashes/etc...)
>Visuals (how good the game looks/animations/visual design choices/etc...)
>Region design (quality of routes/towns/wild area/etc...)
>Charm and worldbuilding (the little things that make the world feel more alive or just small details you liked)
Please don't rate unless you have either played the game or you have watched a playthrough of it at least.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 19:54:01 No.41764363 Report

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>>41764342
Story was better than gens before it, honestly
Nobody should be commenting on gameplay if they havent played it themselves though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 20:08:55 No.41764572 Report

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Story: 2
Boring and fast. No effort to flesh out these characters besides Bede who gets status quo'd by the audience anyway. Marnie gets one scene tucked away from the player if you don't know about it.

Post Game: 0
The post gane is nothing special and has already been done by its predecessors. The extra story is short and really stupid.

Pokémon design: 8
The starters needed more time in the oven and there are some really stupid ones like Coalossal and Copperajah but the rest are fine. One thing that GF does right and its the simple monster designs.

Gameplay: 5
The same as ever but with unnecessary shit added on top like gigantomaxing which will be gone come next gen. Moves were cut and that pisses me off more than dexit.

Performance: 1
It lags in the wild area and it completely destroys the switch if not careful. Sound options are an item for some reason. For some ungodly reason double battles STILL lag the game which just boggles my mind.

Visuals: 4
Hit or miss. The Pokémon obviously look fine unless you look at things like Wailord. The animations in the game are the same as they were in Sun And Moon. The textures needed to look better. I know they were going for cartoony and charming but that didn't work out so well did it? Some parts like the fairy town and slumbering weald are alright.

Region design: 2
Another straight line. Wild area shouldn't be a replacement. It should be a supplement.

Charm: 2
It isn't. But the new Pokémon sure are. Stuff like how Centiscorch and Hitmontop moves are really great. These are the animations Gamefreak is talking about. But they're no substitute for anything else. This kind of stuff should've been secondary why are we filling up a fucking currydex?

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 20:23:04 No.41764761 Report

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 21:03:53 No.41765520 Report

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 21:21:56 No.41765856 Report

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>Story
3. You're actively shoo'd away from doing anything apart from the challenge until the climax, which happens too suddenly and too quickly.
>Post Game
5. The story that is about catching the cover legends is really rough and lacks the same polish+presentation the main game does. Battle Tower is more mindless than before. Raids are ok. The post-game grind of raising competitive Pokemon is the best yet with all the QoL changes that make it less irritating and mind-numbing.
>Pokemon designs
9. Overall the new Pokemon are really interesting, look great in motion, and there's a good variety of them. The only really ugly ones are Eiscue and Gmax Copperajah imo, but I can accept that not every creature is going to look good.
>Gameplay
7. The EXP share can be worked around to make the main game pretty fair in terms of difficulty, and having the box always accessible allowed me to use a ton of Pokemon during a single playthrough without grinding. Dynamaxing is cool, but you really don't get a lot of opportunities to use it in the main story. Besides that it's mostly the same you'd expect from any other Pokemon game.
>Performance
8. Apart from the atrocious lag in the online wild area, there's not many technical issues.
>Visuals
7. Again, apart from the wild area, the game looks ok in most places. Better than other Pokemon games, but not very impressive compared to other Switch games. Animations are good in battle. There are some really pretty areas like the fairy town and the forest next to it.
>Region
4. Routes are too short. Most towns are tiny. Wild area is tiny. The whole game feels really small.
>Worldbuilding
5. The characters are good for the most part, it's just the "villains" who are really weak and rushed. The gym challenge was great, and the presentation of the fights are kino. There's obviously traces of a really cool world, but again, you're just shoved away from it for the most part.
tl;dr too rushed. Could've been great, it's just OK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 21:26:55 No.41765939 Report

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Story: 3
It's pretty simple which is refreshing from the overly complex stories from oras-usum which is nice, but after a while you realize its just a gym simulator until Rose does some stupid shit with Eternatus.
Post game: 2
The story here was pretty forgettable and short, and after thats done all thats left is the shitty battle tower and the boring wild area. Going to get bored very quickly.
Pokemon design: 7
Overall pretty nice, starters aren't amazing and Rolycoly was very disappointing but the rest are fairly solid designs. My favorite so far is Grapploct, sad its a shitmon though.
Gameplay: 6
Dynamax is kinda fun to use in-game but the transformation takes way too fucking long. Through the story I was pretty on/under level until around the 6th gym to the league, where Leon was actually above my team. The early gyms in particular I had a bit of trouble with and the hardest part for me was the ghost gym.
Performance: 6
Didn't experience much issues other than lagging when online in the wild area.
Visuals: 4
Pretty average for a pokemon game I guess? Some of the animations and effects look nice, and some look awful like tail whip. Its infuriating that there's still no properly scaled models.
Region design: 1
I can't give it a 0 because there was a few parts I enjoyed the secret path in Motostoke but that doesn't even lead to anything interesting iirc, and that route before Stow and side was pretty alright. The wild area is shit, its a big grassland with no dungeons or genuinely anything interesting in it. Massive disappointment.
Charm and worldbuilding: 0
I don't remember any small details and there's parts I hate like Wyndon looking so large but when you explore it it's just garbage, and Spikemuth's nice aesthetic but its just a straight fucking line like Turffield or whatever it was called. I get what its based off of but they at least could've opened up more of the place when you beat Piers, There's no reason to go back other than fighting Marnie

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 21:28:56 No.41765975 Report

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>>41764342
>story
1
>post game
1
>pokemon design
7
>gameplay
4
>performance
3
>visuals
2
>region design
1
>charm
1

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 21:34:31 No.41766060 Report

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>>41764342
Story : 1/10 THE worst story out of all the pokemon games
Post game : 0/10 THE worst post game out of all the pokémon games
Pokémon design : 7/10 I like it but I generally like all dex
Gameplay : 2/10 level scaling is retarded sometimes, dexcut and dynamax is the worst gimmick ever
Performance : 4/10 it speaks itself
Visuals : 4/10 because the towns are really pretty but the rest is fucking horrible
Region design : 3/10 towns are great routes are terribles and no exploration
Charm : 5/10

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 22:02:13 No.41766524 Report

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>Story
3, nothing actually happens (not necessarily a bad thing) but it's still too intrusive
>Post game (quality and quantity of things to do after finishing the main story)
2, the Zamacian/Zamazenta quest is the laziest shit I've seem in a Pokemon game, at least the battle tower is a little more accessible this time around
>Pokemon design
5, none of them are outright bad (except for Dracovish) but I didn't have any real favorites either
>Gameplay (level scaling/pokemon veriety/dynamax/etc...)
6, for a linear as fuck game the scaling is still pretty bad. variety is fine, at least you can actually find most mons in the wild unlike in previous games. dexcut was a stupid decision. dynamax would be okay if only enemies were allowed to use it.
>Performance (bugs/slowdown/crashes/etc...)
6, menuing is suprisingly not a chore anymore. fast travel is actually fast. much better than I expected from GF. still subpar compared to other Switch games.
>Visuals (how good the game looks/animations/visual design choices/etc...)
4, too colorful and inconsistent
>Region design (quality of routes/towns/wild area/etc...)
1, garbage. dumbed down, no mazes, routes are super short. maybe a little better than gen 7 but that doesn't say much. wild area looks like shit and is empty as fuck. still gets shit on by classic routes.
>Charm and worldbuilding (the little things that make the world feel more alive or just small details you liked)
can't think of anything desu senpai

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 22:04:57 No.41766583 Report

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>>41764342
>Story
0
>Post game
0
>Pokemon design
9
>Gameplay
2
>Performance
5
>Visuals
4
>Region design
2
>Charm/worldbuilding
5

The designs are the only noteworthy thing about this mess

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 22:06:24 No.41766621 Report

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>>41764363
What did you like about the story?

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 22:52:00 No.41767398 Report

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>>41764342
>Story: 1
Just because they had a potentially interesting lore-heavy plot set up and threw it out the window for cheap political eco-activism, otherwise would be 0
>Postgame: 0
Have not felt a game is so empty since RGBY, and that's a set of GBC games. There's no excuse for pokemon games today to feel as empty
"Postgame" consists of episode X which is stupid and short, and a worse battle tower. I don't count raids into this because you can do raids before you finish the game too. Raiding is tedious repetitive shit anyway, and locked behind too many RNG walls
>Pokemon design: 8
I like most designs, some really good additions this gen. What disappointed me the most is too many monotypes, a lot of which felt like they should have been dualtype. The starter evos are the other disappointment
>Gameplay:6
I think the perma exp share is stupid but they did a "decent" job balancing around it. You don't get severely overleveled with it, but you're more or less on par with the game's levels. They failed at the part where youre on par or 1-2 levels above everything you face, but for the champion battle, you end up 6-7 levels underleveled. Dynamax was ok, I liked that gym leaders use gigantamax. Good enough pokemon variety unless you only want to use gen 8 things, then some routes are shit in that regard
>Performance: 5
Rating 5 because it's not like the whole game performs terribly, but the most glaring laggy and framedropping aspect is the wild area when you're online
>Visuals:8
I personally think the game looks beautiful, but if you wanna zero in on details, then some things will disappoint like model scaling in battles and some hiccups where they didn't animate motions well and such
>Region Design: 0
I feel like they absolutely butchered the region.
To be continued cause this aspect is a big rant on my part..

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 23:07:19 No.41767670 Report

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Continued from >>41767398
It's very small, very linear, and most of all, very uninspired and BORING. Nothing to do in any town, no matter how big, the only "dungeons" are 2 bad caves and 2 forests.
The region's design mostly goes like: Starting town->route->town->route->wildarea->town->route->mine->route->town->route->town..you get the gist. There's just nothing between those things. No random ruins, no random towers or accessible lighthouses etc. No side areas or even side towns with no gym. The biggest cities lock you out of 2/3 of whatever your eyes can visually see and they have nothing interesting going on, and 1 city is a literal hallway: gym+PC
GF axed things that have been in the game since gen 3 (e.g. having tv channels and any dialogue at all when you interact with a tv)
Houses are all the same single room slightly rearranged/reskinned interior. Not a single house has any fun/curious surprise such as a second floor or balcony or anything
>Charm and worldbuilding: 2
Usually in pokemon games, you have these little things you find while you travel towards your next city/town and also in the cities themselves. NPCs have enough instances of intentionally implicational flavor text aside from the side quests(e.g. finding random grafitti behind a bench that heavily implies someone got kidnapped in Kalos and the lonely old man in Anistar who dies some time after you lend him a pokemon). You have NPCs saying some deep or curious things and such things.
In Galar, what there is is predominantly missed opportunities where NPCs in a house could have had something interesting but instead you can't do anything in there(this sometimes with npcs in town too, not just houses). Almost all interesting npc dialogue comes from side quests but those are few and far between too. Some people will find this to be unimportant, but to me, sucking the life and soul out of your region is just as unforgivable

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Anonymous Thu 05 Dec 2019 23:14:05 No.41767810 Report

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>>41764342
>3, there's very little plot and characters aren't really interesting
>3, raids and breeding are all I have for postgame
>8, pretty good pokemon this gen
>7, about average as every Pokemon games
>8 when not online, 5 when I use online
>7 for battles, 4-5 for anything else
>4, smallest region ever
>5, meh but I like gym battles

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Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 00:10:29 No.41768677 Report

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Story: 2/10
Story was pants on head retarded

Postgame: 1/10
swordbob and shieldward thing didn't make any sense either and just gave GF an excuse to say they made postgame content

Pokemon Designs:8/10
surprisingly more hits than misses this time around, my entire team was new pokemon. that rarely happens

Gameplay: 4/10
The core formula is still fun but it's obvious how much shit they left out just to sell back to you in the 3rd version at full price. Dynamaxing is stupid. Bring back exploration at least

Visuals: 6/10
The art style/color palette for this game is very pleasant but there's a whole lot of technical issues that detract from them

Region Design: 1/10
no caves, routes only, final destination

Charm and Worldbuilding: 6/10
The region itself wasn't very interesting but I liked most of the characters. Lots of prime waifus. League cards were a brilliant idea also, I hope they stick around but they probably won't

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Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 00:50:12 No.41769343 Report

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>Story
3, the main plot isn't bad, but the climax was just randomly thrown at you, and the climax involving the legendaries was more cringe and anti-climatic, the battle and music alone took off at least 5 of the points.
>post game
6, I'mma be real, the post game for all pokemon games is really short.. you do the story, you get to breeding and finishing the dex.. SwSh's raids actually got me doing something else and make me keep checking in, I'll have to give credit where credit is due on this one. I'd rate higher, but gen 4 post game was an easy 10 and it didn't seem fair to put SwSh anywhere near it.
>Pokemon design
6, I like the bugs this gen, dragons are alright, there's some gems like runerigus, but some of the new designs I'd easily cull for some of the old ones, have to consider pokemon died to make room for these.
>Gameplay
9, Its actually fine.
>Performance
0, inexcusable that there's frame drops on the switch with a fucking turn based RPG. Pikmin on the NGC can run with more animations and models on the field at once than you in the wild area.
>Visuals
0, would be a 5 for pokemon standards, but the fact visuals were meant to have more effort put in them as an excuse for everything else lost just shows how little they actually did.
>region design
bleh
>charm
I like the gym leaders (except the rock one, who fucking cares about him), they felt like more than NPCs, and I did like chairman rose as a character just his big climax came too late, too fast, and out of no where. Even the animation of him hesitating to actually battle was really cool.

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