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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 00:37:06 No.41826750 View View Reply Original Report

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Fix him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 00:37:51 No.41826764 Report

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>>41826750
Just give it a better movepool that allows it to put it's bulk to good use

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 00:37:51 No.41826766 Report

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Give any 50% recovery move

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 00:37:56 No.41826769 Report

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>>41826750
*neuters him*

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 00:38:48 No.41826787 Report

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>>41826750

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 00:43:07 No.41826879 Report

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fuck i hope he gets a buff one day i love him so much

it's just not fair bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:08:11 No.41827343 Report

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>>41826750
Nerf Zacian

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:09:28 No.41827362 Report

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>>41826750
King's Shield
Body Press
Ability buffs both defense and sp def instead of just def

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:10:44 No.41827380 Report

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>>41827362
probably not king's shield, that move would be op busted on him
agree with the other two though
>>41827343
probably yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:12:53 No.41827415 Report

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>>41827380
>that move would be op busted on him
It's a 720 BST legendary. Nobody is expecting him to be fair

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:13:15 No.41827425 Report

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>>41826750
>Swap its type with Zacian's
>Zamazenta becomes Fairy and Fairy/Steel
>Zacian becomes Fighting and Fighting/Steel
>Now learns Body Press instead of Close Combat
>Now learns King's Shield
>Now learns Bulk Up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:14:59 No.41827461 Report

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>>41826750
>ability now functions like contrary
>rather than iron head being replaced with behemoth bash, protect gets replaced with Max Guard
Now he counters dynamax and can bulk up with close combat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:15:32 No.41827476 Report

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>>41827380
>that move would be op busted on him
You do realize they made Zacian as broken as MegaRay right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:17:42 No.41827508 Report

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>>41827425
Agreed except the type changes
Why should Zamazenta loose the STAB boost on Body Press?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:18:08 No.41827519 Report

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>>41826750
Add "The higher the user's Defense, the more damage it can inflict on the target." to Behemoth Bash. There, fixed. He's now viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:19:33 No.41827536 Report

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>Body Press
>King's Shield
>Bulk Up/Swords Dance
>doesn't lose 10 speed in crowned forme, take away 10 SpA
Done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:20:20 No.41827547 Report

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>>41826750
Turn his signature move into a 80 BP attack that also applies Max Guard to itself and all allies if the opponent is dynamaxed. The protection part may fail if used consecutively but it will always deal damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:21:39 No.41827568 Report

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>>41827508
I thought of that, but the purpose is two-fold:
>1. Nerfs Zacian, which has a far better defensive typing and movepool despite being the "offensive" one of the pair
>2. Greatly increases Zamazenta's resilience, its supposed basis, by giving it the best defensive typing in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:21:49 No.41827575 Report

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Movepool additions: Body press,recover, stone edge, heat crash

Dauntless shield now boosts special defence as well

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:23:14 No.41827593 Report

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>>41827362
Zamazenta was so cucked, what wasted potential. Body press especially, it felt like it'd be his signature move when we first learned how it worked with the defense stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:23:40 No.41827598 Report

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>>41827536
yeah i got a nerf for gyarados too. just take away 10 special attack and give him 10 speed

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:24:22 No.41827604 Report

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>>41826750
Can’t fix something that can’t reproduce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:25:42 No.41827627 Report

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>>41826750
He now learns
>Bulk Up
>Calm Mind
>Body Press

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:26:19 No.41827637 Report

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>>41827598
>thread is about buffing zamazenta
>wtf why are you suggesting a buff for zamazenta

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:31:22 No.41827719 Report

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:49:16 No.41827988 Report

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>>41826750
>Fire/Steel
Being part Fighting makes so many Steel resists into neutrals. The quad weakness to Ground seems nasty, but it'd get 4 more quad resists to make up for it.
>Dauntless Shield
Now boosts both Defenses.
>Movepool
I'd make Behemoth Bash fire typed.
Counter, Magic Coat and Mirror Coat should have been a given.
I'd also give it all shield moves, besides Baneful Bunker, for fluff.

Nothing broken but at least Uber worthy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 01:58:00 No.41828169 Report

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>>41826750
King's Shield
Body Press
Earthquake
Recover / Morning Sun / Moonlight
Behemoth Bash acts Protect + nerfed Metal Burst (0.75x of total damage) if Zamazenta is outsped and attacked while using it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 02:09:13 No.41828353 Report

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>>41826750
Fixing him would also need Zacian nerfed so that she doesn’t overshadow him.
Firstly
Zacian: 92/130/105/130/105/108
Zacian-Crowned: 92/170/95/170/95/98
Zamazenta: 92/105/130/105/130/108
Zamazenta-Crowned: 92/95/170/95/170/98
Same BSTs
For typings
Base Zacian is Ice and Base Zama is Fire, both adding steel in their Crowned forms.
Intrepid Sword now acts like Download that ignore Intimidate, Haze, ect, and Dauntless Shield is the defensive version.
Both learn moves to fit their types, and they learn wish.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 02:10:06 No.41828367 Report

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What it fucking could've been:

Zamazenta-Crowned @ Rusted Shield
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Careful/Impish Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

After one Iron Defense, would probably break through resists

Or if you hate Ghost types:
Zamazenta-Crowned @ Rusted Shield
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Jolly/Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Body Press
- Crunch/Behemoth Bash
- Substitute/Kings Shield/Coverage

Un-crowned probably does this better as it can hold Lefties or boosting item

Aegislash 2.0:
Zamazenta-Crowned @ Rusted Shield
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Careful/Impish Nature
-Kings Shield
-Body Press
-Metal Burst
-Filler

It had soo much potential......
Gamefreak is so retarded

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Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 02:14:10 No.41828430 Report

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>>41827362
>>41827425
Both of these

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Dec 2019 02:34:45 No.41828752 Report

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>>41827362

It doesn’t get kings shield? What the fuck Gamefreak

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